black dun foals

[supaspot]

could I please see black dun foals please (still learning some foal olours)

Thanks

 

[stormy]

Here is Oatmeal Acres Dun B N Blue as a baby and a yearling

 

[Jill]

Here's a smokey grey grullo (black dun) as a foal -- grew up to be our stallion, DunIT

 

[supaspot]

Here's a smokey grey grullo (black dun) as a foal -- grew up to be our stallion, DunIT

wow what a gorgeous head !

 

[Jill]

wow what a gorgeous head !

Thank you

He passes that along to his babies, too

 

[supaspot]

back to the task in hand ..smokey grey grullo , Im not sure I understand you ...do you mean he is black dun with cream (smoky) and either silver or grey ???

 

[Jill]

back to the task in hand ..smokey grey grullo , Im not sure I understand you ...do you mean he is black dun with cream (smoky) and either silver or grey ???

DunIT is black dun w/ the grey gene and the cream gene (has sired palomino and double dilute fillies). Black, dun, grey and cream all in one boy. He is now nearly grey (white)

Black + Dun + Cream + Grey

(He's the grey-white stallion in my avatar.)

 

[ohmt]

Here is a silver grulla filly-she was born looking like a palomino and then started to darken up with age.

And a bad picture, but here she is hanging out in the pasture as a 2 yr old, next to a 33" silver black mare (shows how tiny she was!)

 

[supaspot]

Here is a silver grulla filly-she was born looking like a palomino and then started to darken up with age.

And a bad picture, but here she is hanging out in the pasture as a 2 yr old, next to a 33" silver black mare (shows how tiny she was!)

she sure was a cute foal !

these examples were what I was expecting the normal colour for black dun to look like , thankyou everyone

I just needed to check because I have a silver buckskin that someone thought was a black dun , it made me question my knowledge of colours .......unless someone can show me an example where the two colours could be confused with each other ????

 

[Jill]

Remember though with dun, you look for dun factor -- the dorsal stripe, shoulder bars, leg stripes, cobwebbing, ear edging. You don't rely on the color to tell you, you look for the "factor". A silver buckskin with dun factor may be the exact same color as a silver buckskin w/o dun factor. Only difference being the places you see dun factor but not a noticable difference in body or mane / tail color.

In fact, see here my mares Maddie (behind) and Flirt (front). One has dun factor, one does not. They pretty much look like color twins, don't they?

 

[supaspot]

they certainly do !

Thanks for all your help Jill

 

[Jill]

No problem! I love colors and I am a real big fan of DUN

With our stallion and some of his offspring, plus what some of our mares carry, it's something we see a fair amount of here and I kind of like the looks of any horse just a little bit better if they have dun factor

 

[rabbitsfizz]

This is as a yearling- Black Dun , no Silver. She does have Roan but it did not "appear" visually until she was three.

 

[Jill]

I wanted to add a newborn picture of DunIT with his BOLD dorsal on display. I couldn't readily find it earlier:

 

[Jill]

And a picture of his grey-grulla daughter, Passion... I think she's pretty neat:

 

[Jill]

And not black dun but red dun... another DunIT foal, Trooper. Out of two dun parents. He's pretty special as we had to hand raise him (rejected after a very difficult birth)... big dorsal, shoulder bars, darker head. He did not grey out.

 

[supaspot]

I wanted to add a newborn picture of DunIT with his BOLD dorsal on display. I couldn't readily find it earlier:

wow theres no mistaking his dun factors !!!

I have no problem with red dun (Ive had a couple myself) it was the foal coats of blacks and silvers I wasnt sure of

 

[rabbitsfizz]

A dorsal is a good way of detecting the possibility of dun, but not a fail safe one. DunIt went grey, and grey tends to deepen the colour along the backbone anyway, so, if DunIt had not been dun and had a false dorsal, his colour would still have deepened along the backbone, in exactly the same way that appies do. Hence the large number of appies with false dorsals.

 

[Jill]

I'm sure DunIT is dun

He had more than the dorsal, plus he has sired dun foals including from non-dun mares

BUT he is for sure a gorgeously grey boy now! I really love him so much it nearly hurts... such a character and he is a horse with a sense of humor

... I have a soft spot for the "bad boys"

 

[High Meadow Miniatures]

Our smokey grullo tobiano stallion, Hotrod, as a foal

As a yearling;

Two of his grulla foals from 2011