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Hi, I'm new here. I have a stallion that changes colors like a lizard! When we first got him as a baby, he was silver and white. ( He is a pinto with a lot of white). In the winter, his spots turn light yellowish brown but his face stays dark brownish gray. In the summer, he turns dark chocolate brown. I have no idea how to post pictures on here or I would post some of him. We just got our first foal from him this year, it was dark gray pinto with silver and white legs! Now she is turning dark brownish gray already. She is only 2 1/2 weeks old. I have got to send in the stallions perment record soon. I registered him earlier as gray and white pinto.I want to have him tested but I have no idea what to test for. Do I need to test for gray or black? I really wish they had a color for dummies book! All the colors are so confusing, they look brown but are actually black, or they look brown and are really silver. Help! Do I need to test for him being a tabino? I just don't know!
 
It sounds to me as if your horse is a Silver Black, he cannot be grey unless one of his parents was a TRUE Grey (not a mis registered grey!!!)

Can you send me pictures by e-mail??

If you PM me I will give you my address.
 
It sounds to me as if your horse is a Silver Black, he cannot be grey unless one of his parents was a TRUE Grey (not a mis registered grey!!!)

Can you send me pictures by e-mail??

If you PM me I will give you my address.


It sounds to me as if your horse is a Silver Black, he cannot be grey unless one of his parents was a TRUE Grey (not a mis registered grey!!!)

Can you send me pictures by e-mail??

If you PM me I will give you my address.

Yes, I can send you a picture by e-mail! Send me your e-mail address. Thank you! I did not know that about grey animals. I do not know what color his parents were. I need to find out. So , do I need to have him tested for black gene?
 
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I also think it sounds like a Silver Black (commonly called Silver Dapple). They often change shades with the seasons.
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You can test for Black & Silver. Silver-Blacks are often mistakenly called "Grays"....as that is what they often look like, visually. Silver Blacks are essentially, a black horse who has also inherited the Silver gene. Silver acts upon black & will lighten all black areas. They are usually born a "taupe" color...or tannish-gray. Upon first shed (or clipping) they are usually very light silver or gray in color, and they will have a distinctive dark "mask" on their face. Usually by a few months old, dapples will appear. They may or may not keep those dapples as they age. As Silver Blacks age...they usually will get progressively darker. Some will be very dark gray, while others will remain very light. Some will look brownish (or chocolate) in winter coat. Add to that the white/silver or gray manes & tails...and many get registered as Chocolate Palominos in error!

There is no test for Gray (the fading type)....as that is actually not a color. It is a modifying gene that causes a pattern of white hairs to occur all over the body causing the original color of the horse to appear "roaned" & get lighter & lighter each year until they go completely white.

If you want to know what pinto pattern he carries.....you can test for Tobiano, Frame & Sabino. (there is no test for Splash yet). But there are definate things to look for, to determine which pinto patterns a horse carries...and I'm sure Rabbit (Jane) has already helped you with that.
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I also think it sounds like a Silver Black (commonly called Silver Dapple). They often change shades with the seasons.
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You can test for Black & Silver. Silver-Blacks are often mistakenly called "Grays"....as that is what they often look like, visually. Silver Blacks are essentially, a black horse who has also inherited the Silver gene. Silver acts upon black & will lighten all black areas. They are usually born a "taupe" color...or tannish-gray. Upon first shed (or clipping) they are usually very light silver or gray in color, and they will have a distinctive dark "mask" on their face. Usually by a few months old, dapples will appear. They may or may not keep those dapples as they age. As Silver Blacks age...they usually will get progressively darker. Some will be very dark gray, while others will remain very light. Some will look brownish (or chocolate) in winter coat. Add to that the white/silver or gray manes & tails...and many get registered as Chocolate Palominos in error!

There is no test for Gray (the fading type)....as that is actually not a color. It is a modifying gene that causes a pattern of white hairs to occur all over the body causing the original color of the horse to appear "roaned" & get lighter & lighter each year until they go completely white.

If you want to know what pinto pattern he carries.....you can test for Tobiano, Frame & Sabino. (there is no test for Splash yet). But there are definate things to look for, to determine which pinto patterns a horse carries...and I'm sure Rabbit (Jane) has already helped you with that.
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Thank you ! All this info has really helped me understand a little better.
 

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