Confused Prefix/Suffix

[kaykay]

I just got a new work order from ASPC/AMHR. It says the prefix/suffix fee is now 200.00 not 100.00. And it still lists suffix. I thought ppl from convention said it was 100.00 and that they did away with suffix reservation?

 

[Jill]

The way I remember what we were told here was that the fee for prefix / suffix reservation was now $100 (as opposed to the former $20) and I did NOT think they did away with suffix reservation. Maybe the $200 is a typo?

 

[kaykay]

maybe it is a typo?? it definately says 200.00 each on the work order.

Rob had posted this on the other prefix topic

Just so you all know, there will be NO SUFFIX's.

So I thought that was passed at convention

 

[Jill]

Are they open today? Maybe someone can call them?

Do you know what about existing suffixes? Are they done away with or do they still stand? I own one, but of course, I only bought it to be sure it would be available to me when I wanted to use it (it's a favorite word). But, I do have "Treasure's" papers still. Maybe I can make her AMHA and AMHR names the same if they've done away with common word suffixes?

 

[kaykay]

good question jill but i have no idea lol. probably have to wait for the next journal to explain it all i guess. I looked and the online work order also says 200.00. I already reserved mine but I have friends who havent so I kinda feel bad that they now have to pay 200.00

but everyone wanted a stop put to it and im pretty sure the 200.00 will stop it LOL

 

[Jill]

Yep, I am happy people now won't be snapping up those common word suffixes, and I'm happy too that I had previously reserved my Prefix with both AMHR and AMHA.

Wouldn't it be something if my procrastination of sending off Treasure's AMHR's actually paid off and she'll bet to have the same name in both registries :bgrin But, I would imagine they can't "take away" the suffixes they sold at least w/o refunding the purchase prices...

How do we know there's no suffix? The work order (as you pointed out) does say "Prefix or Suffix -- $200". I could have sworn the way I read what was said, we could still do both?

 

[Lauralee]

I think that there are many ways to accomplish what needs to be done.

Reasonable solutions might include:

Limiting the number of suffixes a person can own for a 10 year period, to two suffixes per person.

OR

Charge 20 for the prefix, and 200 for the suffix.

The prefix isn't the problem here, its the suffixes that are making a big mess.

I certainly hope that there will be no more suffixes. Is there someone who was at the convention that can confirm that this is correct?

 

[MBhorses]

hello,

I HOPE THIS IS A TYPE ERROR FOR $200. WE JUST MAIL OUR FRIDAY FOR THE $20.00 AMOUNT, BECAUSE CATHY TOLD ME BACK IN OCT IT WAS $20.00. I DIDN'T LOOK ONLINE ABOUT IT UNTIL YOU ALL DISCUSS IT THIS MORNING.

THANKS

 

[Jill]

I'm sure it's not $20 anymore. I just wonder is it $100 or $200. Either is a better idea than $20 because it was toooooo easy to snap up lots of words.

 

[Miniv]

I have a question.......

If someone reserved a prefix with AMHR, does this also reserve it for ASPC? Or do we have to reserve the prefix for ASPC seperately?

MA

 

[Buckskin gal]

It was voted in for the prefix to be $200.00. The person who said it was $100.00 made an error. I think it is ridiculous to charge that much. A better solution would have been to limit the amount of prefixes for each individual. Was told they didn't think of that!

: Hardly fair that many have bought theirs for $20.00 and now everyone else who doesn't have one will have to pay $200.00. Money the only solution??

: Mary

 

[Boinky]

i fear that if they think they are going to solve everything by raising prices then it is going to turn out like AMHA and many other very pricey "clubs" AMHR will lose many people just like many people will not deal with AMHA because of their price gouging. i already stated my oppinions in the other thread about having MANY other more logical solutions that would adequately solve the problem without raising the price ASTROMNOMICALLY. I truly beleive there are more lodgical ways to solve this problem than raising the price that will only stop those that don't have money..but not the ones that do!

 

[southernmother]

I'm new to this, and so I wanted to ask, you all are talking about reserving your farm name as a prefix for your registered horses names right? Like Our farm is Serenity Stables Miniature Horse Farm, and I was advised to reserve our farm name so nobody can register thier horses with our name, which will be Serenity, or Serenitys (I was going to mail in my first fillys registration Monday) Her name is Serenitys Sunrise Spectacular ...

I had been told previously that it was $20 to do that, and then someone else said it had been changed to $100 and then when I downloaded the work order it shows it to be $200

I assume it is the $200 .... which I think is kind of rediculous, but thats just my opinion.

I guess my point is, if this is what ya'll are talking about, is it really necassary or important for me to reserve ours?

 

[CheyAut]

I guess my point is, if this is what ya'll are talking about, is it really necassary or important for me to reserve ours?

Well, only you can decide that... but just keep in mind, if someone else reserves Serenitys b/c you didn't, you won't be able to use that for your horses' names anymore.

I highly doubt ANYONE would want to reserve CheyAut, but I went ahead and reserved it just in case haha! (though I did do it awhile back when it was only $20, I'd still do it today at $200 if I hadn't yet)

JMO

Jessi

 

[Jean_B]

OK -- I'm going to bring another perspective to this discussion.

A prefix is necessary for those who are viewing their breeding operation as a BUSINESS. And therefore, a prefix or suffix (if allowed) is to be viewed as a "brand name"....something to identify the "business." I for one do not think the $200 fee is outrageous.

If I was just starting out as a BUSINESS breeding farm, I would not hesitate at the $200 because it is a small price to pay for "brand name" recognition of my operation. I would chalk it off to just another part of my on-going advertising strategy.

Those who are just getting started and don't want to spend the $200 can browse the list of names that are not available. They have lots of options for naming their horses. Maybe their initials. Maybe a twist on their names (one of my web clients started out with Geo-Mar for George and Mary before they locked in something slightly different).

So...sorry, but I think it was the RIGHT thing to raise the rates so that people would quit the RIDICULOUS practice of buying every tom **** and harry word out there and give SERIOUS thought to: 1. did they really want to become a business, and 2. what would be the BEST way to get "brand name" recognition.

 

[FoRebel]

$200 for a Prefix registration is rediculous! I am soooo glad that I got it done when it was still $20!!!

I agree with Mary... raising the cost isn't the "proper" way to do make it so there aren't people reserving numerous prefixes. I think they need to limit it to one per farm.

I also agree with Boinky, the AMHR raising the prices is only going to stop the people who don't have the money from registering their farm names and still allowing the people with money to register whatever they want.

I'm honestly not liking the whole price hiking because the AMHR isn't making owning a AMHR mini affordable.

 

[Michelle@wescofarms]

I was told last week it was voted on to go from $20 to $200. The people that were at the Convention (from my memory) were discussing raising it to $100. I didn't know it was going to $200 until we came home from the conference.

I do agree with Jean that $200 isn't alot for the name branding. I think it's just a shock that it went up that much literally overnight with no warning. For those of us that had reserved before we'll glad we did, and people new will either pay it or not have the name. I guess it will depend on how important the name is to a breeding operation. As it is a business expenses it would be deductable.

It really would have been easier if they didn't allow common words to be reserved as a suffix. Common words should have an 'OF' in front of the common word - of Treasure, of Star of Diamond, etc. That would denote a farm name versus XYG's Treasure.

 

[Boinky]

honestly i think it kind of sucks that only people that go to the convention get to vote and are informed on this stuff. the other clubs i belong to all have proxy voting via- mail and they ask their membership if this is what they wish to do. I'm not saying they do this with every little detail but anything major especially they do it with. I'm sure only a very small percentage of the AMHR membership make it to the convention to make these decisions. it would be nice if they had a way to get more of the membership involved in decision making on all levels not just the few that are fortunate enough to be able to afford and have the time off to go to the convention.

 

[Jean_B]

honestly i think it kind of sucks that only people that go to the convention get to vote and are informed on this stuff. the other clubs i belong to all have proxy voting via- mail and they ask their membership if this is what they wish to do. I'm not saying they do this with every little detail but anything major especially they do it with. I'm sure only a very small percentage of the AMHR membership make it to the convention to make these decisions. it would be nice if they had a way to get more of the membership involved in decision making on all levels not just the few that are fortunate enough to be able to afford and have the time off to go to the convention.

One thing that a lot of people don't understand - While you can go to the convention and vote in the committee meetings (i.e., mini committee, classic committee, modern committee, show pony committee, etc.) the votes in those committee meetings are ADVISORY only. Meaning that while a vote might go a particular way -- the vote is to ADVISE the board on action that they would like to see happen.

Those votes are then brought in front of the Board of Directors - who are elected by the membership in the various areas. Those Board of Director members are charged with making decisions that will benefit the industry/membership as a whole, will benefit the organization, are made with an eye to the future. There have been times in the past when a committe votes for a particular action but it is NOT approved by the BOD. Sometimes I've wondered at the logic, but often times those decisions were made because the BOD is looking at the WHOLE picture, not just a tiny segment. They look at it without emotion, but rather with an eye to whether it will help or hurt the industry as a whole. They are charged with the responsibility of becoming familiar with information that the vast majority of us just would rather not pay attention to.

I am VERY confident that this vote was made NOT for the purpose of padding the pockets of the organization. Believe me, raising it to $200 was not necessary for the financial well-being of the organization. ASPC/AMHR is in good financial shape. It was made because some idiots were out there scarfing up every ridiculous word and locking them up because the $20 was a ridiculously LOW amount of money and a few people were extremely frivolous because of that. And by raising it to $200 (yes, it's possible that in committee it was voted to be $100, but the BOD in their meeting might have raised it to $200...which is a GOOD thing) they are nipping the frivolous in the bud.

 

[Lisa-Ruff N Tuff Minis]

Well for me the silly part is what doesnt seem to have been changed is I could now be

Dusti Lane'z

or Hoofe-beat Acres

or Wesc-co Farms

Just to use a couple off the top of my head fro 200 bucks I could have someone elses name just with a letter different or a hyphen added or a 's added

So not really sure how that changes things or makes it better.. If it was my goal to ensure no one else could use common words I could still use them as part of a prefix or suffix just pay more to do so.. doesnt really stop it from happening IMO just means those that want to WILL pay more and they WILL if that is there goal.

Again I have no issue really with the price being raised it is the lack of notice that we as members got that I take issue with.

Give us 48 hours, 72 hours something

and if really trying to change things then change the way they are accepted not the price of them jmo