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I am wondering what is the show preference for those of you that show your minis? Do you like AMHA, AMHR, County Fairs and Breed Shows? What type of shows have you had your best and worst personnal experience with?

Where do you find the most considerate people? To me, it seems like mini people are their own breed so to speak (as far as outgoing and non condesending).

It is never a nice thing to go to a show and have an announcer heckle your horse, not on a speaker, but as you walk by.

While pointers are great, pointless comments are uncalled for. I just don't seem to see this type of harsh attitude with mini shows.

Please share your experience and show preferences, I am curious as to what input others may have.
 
I have never shown at an AMHA show. I do love ASPC/AMHR. Just a great friendly group of people and I am known for forgetting things and someone always offers to lend me what I need. Cant say enough good things

This weekend I showed at my first Pinto Show and it was a blast. We were welcomed with open arms and really made to feel wanted at the show.

I guess all my experiences have been very good!
 
I show in AMHA, AMHR, and ADS (Combined Driving). I love them all! I always feel at home, in any group. We are lucky here in the Northwest to have some great clubs and venues. I belong to a fairly large # of clubs.
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I am so glad you started this thread because I have wondered the same thing!

We LOVE the Pinto shows, which is the reason we have only pintos (not because of the flashy color; one of ours looks solid gray). We have also shown AMHA, AMHR, and local shows, but much prefer pinto for these reasons:

1. Pintos come in all sizes, so you get to expose your minis to pony and "big" horse people at their shows. It is amazing how many of the big horse people are now getting interested in the minis (do I see a market here????). Mini class sizes are already huge (15 or more not unusual, with 10 or more in driving).

2. Also, once a pinto, always a pinto, so height is really a non-issue - you outgrow one size, you move up to the next.

3. The national PtHA offers an incredible reward system based on national points that gets you hooked and always wanting to come back for more. It starts with 35 points for a register of merit (ROM) and goes up to 1,000 points (for minis) for a Supreme Champion, with many levels in between. We have shown 5 of our minis at PtHA shows and they have anywhere from 19 points (Ruby, 1 show) to over 650 (Princess, 16 shows). For several of the awards (Pinto Champion, Legion of Merit, Supreme Champion) your horse gets its photo in the national Pinto magazine. They also list their version of the Honor Roll each year (Pinto/Pony/Miniature of the Year and Top Ten).

4. Pinto stresses versatility (yep, one of the awards) and offer a High Point mini and Reserve (at least in our Club shows) for each and every show, for total points in the 9 classes (halter, color, trail, hunter, jumper, and 4 driving classes). That is in addition to the Club Year End awards, which are also nice and very competitive.

5. The shows are just a whole lot of fun!!! Everyone sets their own goals and no one has to get points by a certain time to qualify for anything. If you want to go to the Pinto World Show, you just pack up and go.
 
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It is so nice to hear the pinto registry accepts the minis as a mini and also a pinto.

I don't know if all breed shows work this way, from reading, talking with others and just observing, it seems as though it is a mini me class, not a mini halter class. Meaning....your mini is a mini arab. or a mini quarter horse, or a mini ap,....

No my mini is a mini, judge it on correctness for the breed, not for what it represents in the big horse world. There are characteristics in some big horse breeds that would not fly with minis, long backs, very low pasterns to accentuate leg movement, unbalanced heads, but in some eyes, if that unbalanced mini would correctly mock what is accepted in a larger breed, it is "great".

Thanks for the input,Please keep your feedback coming.
 
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The only shows we have gone to are the Nor-Cal AMHA Shows. We would have gone to the rejional show but I got sick and got out of the hospital anout 4 days before the show which we went to as spectators anyway and to take care of some unfinished business. I think they were the nicest bunch of people (with the exception of a very small few). There were people comming up and telling us they really missed us not showing.
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I do all breed shows mainly... But next year I will be showing PtHA. Its all kinda crazy I am too far from most of the AMHA and AMHR shows down here where I am at. But right now I am a member of 3 clubs right now and all the people are great. My horses get tons of attention there too and at the same time the word about mini and ponies gets out. But I show with all the same people so we all go and have a good time and never really know what the day brings until it happens. I am going to become a memeber of a another club too. And who knows right now I have more than enough shows to show at that I don't really need to leave the area... I have though about showing ASPC next year with my pony. Just don't really know yet.
 
I've shown AMHR, AMHA, and shows at fairs, and my favorite by far is AMHR. I have both "overs" and "unders" and can show them all at one show.
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Going to a show, especially the ones our local clubs put on, is like going to a family reunion-- lots of great people and socializing and fun!
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Let me clarify a bit about the pinto shows...

Minis CAN be shown against the "big" horses in Amateur Halter or Showmanship, but most people show their minis in the classes just for minis - which will vary from show to show. Our Club offers 9 classes just for minis (the ones I listed above) and combines A and B size.

Can't resist adding that a forum member showed her mini against the big horses in the NEPtHA Amateur Halter classes this year and came out with the Reserve Champion for the Year End Awards!! Congrats to Jean and "Piglet".
 
Do you have to have your horse register'd with/as Ptha to show at the pinto shows?

I sure wish we'd get some CDE's going on here in mid- Ohio. THere's a good AMHR show in AShland every June. We'll be attending this year but last year they were all RAted classes, I'm hoping they have some non-rated classes this year too. We have several non reg. and amha mini's that we'd love to be able to show esp. in driving but no where to take them. WE'll be taking the AMHR mini's there this year but I'll hate to have to leave the other flashy driving mini at home just because of the papers.
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I've talked to some Draft people to try and get some interest sparked in cde's but they do thier own thing, and not ready to let the mini's join in.

I sure hope I can get the right connections in the next couple of years and have a BIG MINI horse event, the interest is here, but have to fight thru the riding horse people to prove it. THis county has the "What can you do with a mini. attitude" Gets pretty frustrating. I even feel the clinic we held this year was sabotaged. There was an ad on the radio the horse show was cancelled at the fairgrounds- NO horse show was scheduled we were holding a mini clinic that w/e and it wasn't cancelled.

I just can't understand the selfishness of some people.

OOPS! Sorry my questioned turned into a rant!
 
When I used to have big horses and around big horse people it was always "you need to do this and you need to do that w/ your horse" With mini people they accept you for who you are and keep they're mouths shut. If your showing your horse in a certain way they don't come up and try to tell you differently. I like that, there's NO criticism, being bossy, better then thou's. When I go to a show I go to show my horse and to learn, I don't stand there so I can GO UP and TELL someone how they should have done something, I found that among'st horse people when I was riding. ALWAYS telling me how I should do this or that. I LOVE MINIATURE HORSE PEOPLE..... Thanks for being so Friendly, Loving, Kind and Considerate. I'm not saying I don't mind someone helping me but there's a difference. I love my club in AMHR here in Mo and I miss my club in Ca .
 
If I could paint spots on Kody I would leave AMHR behind for Pinto shows in a heartbeat for all the reasons Targetsmom mentions.
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They've got a great class list, don't require checks in driving classes if I recall, and I'm a SUCKER for all those cumulative awards.
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Dude, so cool!!

Unfortunately he remains stubbornly solid-colored so my choices are AMHA, AMHR, and ADS. I choose not to show AMHA because I personally (and this is only a personal feeling, not a judgment
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) PERSONALLY feel uncomfortable in the beauty-pageant atmosphere. I like many aspects of AMHA as a club like the class list and amateur programs but am just not comfortable with the fancy atmosphere. It seems like everything in my admittedly limited experience is prom dresses and glitz and glitter and very very fancy little horses, etc. That's not a bad thing! But for me that isn't a good fit and I'm not overly comfortable there. Nothing against AMHA.

AMHR seems more laidback and a little more accepting of different styles of harness/turnout so I find I enjoy those shows. I wish the class list was a little different but most of the so-called "problems" I'd correct are things related to the individual shows that happen to be offered in my area, not AMHR as a whole. The Evergreen Miniature Horse Show for instance is great, I love some of the special classes they offer like Reinsmanship and Disciplined Rail and Pair Liberty.
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I go to AMHR shows strictly because I like to compete in jumping, obstacle, liberty, etc., and once you're too old for 4-H the opportunities for showing minis in my area are pretty slim. When I was riding the local saddleclub shows were great and if I had a jumper, dressage horse, endurance horse, just about anything full-sized there'd be plenty of opportunities to enjoy small shows on weekends. But there's not really anything local for driving once you're out of 4-H so it's AMHR or nothing. I choose AMHR!
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I find the people there very friendly and fun as well.

My favorite of the available options is ADS. Having grown up in 4-H where the emphasis was on bringing along one horse from green horse to finished campaigner on your own I was used to having steady progress rewarded so I really like that the different levels in combined driving are based not on action but on the horse's level of training. You can take a completely green horse in and still do well without pushing them because they're only competing against horses of a similar level and only being judged on whether or not they show the proper foundations for later work. As you get better you move up the levels so there's always a challenge available, always something more to learn. Plus each show has a completely different course so it's never the same pattern twice except in the dressage ring. The horses are also scored 1-10 on each dressage movement then the other phases are placed based on timing and accuracy (not knocking tennis balls off cones) so there's no chance for bias there. To me that leads to a very objective, very fair system where you know exactly WHY you placed as you did and how to improve for next time. Even when you don't agree with the judge at least you know what they were thinking.
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ADS showing has its own pitfalls like the fact that in many parts of the country minis are not taken seriously and officials can get awfully persnickety about little tiny details of turnout but in general it's a very knowledgeable, friendly, welcoming group of people. I like the ongoing education and the focus on taking as much time as the horse needs.

My personal favorite venue is county fairs but again, my local fair only offers rated classes for 4-H, FFA, rodeo and drafts.

Leia
 
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I show and prefer AMHR / ASPC...just for the fact i can show my miniatures and my shetlands all at one show...then agian i do mostly amhr and aspc all together with my horses. Ive watched a few AMHA shows...i just like the amhr/aspc shows better. Also, the fact that i feel like i "know" the amhr/aspc show croud might play part in that...

I do our local county fair in august every year...take several to that..its a TON of fun and so important to promote locally...its one of my faverite shows each year even though is open and unrated...

I'd vote AMHR/ASPC as my fave
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I mainly show at AMHR/APSC Shows and totally enjoy them. For the most part, the people are great. Of course, there will always be your trouble makers out there and the majority of the people know who those are.

In Michigan I attended two AMHA shows. The first one I think the most in a class were three, if you were lucky. It was higher priced than the AMHR/ASPC shows and well, no competition. The second AMHA show I did was one of those AMHR / AMHA shows were the AMHR show was on a Saturday and the AMHA show on Sunday. Still wasn't impressed with the AMHA portion of the show.

Maybe when I get to Ohio next year I'll check out the Pinto circuit.

I definitely want to try the CDE driving. I think Jinx would excel in that.
 
Jbrat - if you ever get CDE's going here in mid-Ohio I'll be there with you! They look like so much fun. Of course, must get Toy broke to drive first.....so that will give us some time to work!

When I showed minis before, I showed AMHR. I also showed club shows and open shows. I had a blast at all of them. I just really enjoy showing and pretty much enter my horse in every class they can possibly go in! Even if they didn't excell in that class I figured if I was there I might as well show as much as I can.

I just really enjoyed the mini people and found them to be so helpful and supportive (for the most part). Of course I also enjoyed parades and trail drives, too. I'm looking forward to getting back into it all!

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When we were showing Morgans we showed mostly at the local fairs and all breed shows, most of which did offer Morgan and open classes. These shows offered prize money, often good prize money, and as we always did well we would generally make more on prize money than we paid out in entry fees and gas money to get to/from the shows. It was always fun to meet and chat with people from the other breeds as well as the other Morgan people that were showing. I know one lady once told my mother & me that she was always happy to see us at a show because we'd always talk to her--she said most of the other Morgan people just ignored her. I was a bit surprised by that as I hadn't ever noticed that tendency in most of the people. But, then when we thought about it, we'd been members of the local club for years and knew most of the other members quite well from the days when the club was a more social one. We were part of "the" group--the in-crowd--I suppose; this lady was a newcomer and treated differently than we old timers were. There were always a few people from other breeds who weren't friendly because we routinely beat their horses and that wasn't appreciated, but for the most part the fairs and open shows were fun and friendly.

When the time came that we got tired of showing we quit and just did our own thing around home, trail riding and such. Then we got our first Minis, with no intention of showing them. The first summer we did take two of them to one of the fairs to support the Mini classes. It was fun and we did well--really overall had a blast showing Minis instead of Morgans--but since then we've found that we just don't have the ambition for going to the fairs and open shows any more. It's a lot of work and Mom and I are both older now--it seems like an awful lot of work to bath and clip horses and then get up early on show day to haul to the fair...and show in the outdoor ring where it's hot and the sun is bright and the flies are bad or it might be pouring rain...and gas costs so much and entry fees are up a lot from the old days, and prize money hasn't increased much or any...now it seems hard to believe that we used to show every weekend, once in awhile we'd go to 2 fairs in one weekend.

Now--we just go to the local AMHR show--warm water washracks, an indoor arena to show in with no flies, no chance of sunburn...assigned stalls, HOF points, yeah, that's my idea of showing now. I wish there were more AMHR shows around that didn't require 14 hours of driving. The first years we showed AMHR we didn't find the people friendly--a couple years we felt like we must be invisible, as no one could be bothered to be friendly or even acknowledge our presence. I know people are busy at shows, and I don't expect anyone to sit down and have a long visit, but when I meet someone I know in passing I do expect a reply to my "Hi, how are ya?" even if it's just a smile and a "hi" . Last summer we found the show very friendly--it was mostly the same people, so I don't know what the difference was. Everyone just seemed more sociable, which was nice. I will say that if we had both AMHA and AMHR shows here, there'd be no difference in attending either (other than depending on which registry your horses are in)--when we had AMHA one day and AMHR the other on the same weekend at the same facility, everything was pretty much the same. Same people showing (in most cases) same entry fees, same everything, just a different rule book. We have no ASPC or Pinto shows here.

I remember one time we were at a big open show, and the one morning before the classes started I was on my way back to the barn from somewhere. I met another Morgan person and smiled and said hello, and all I got in response was a fierce scowl. I wondered what that was about, but shrugged it off as the person in question tended to be a moody sort, not always a friendly person. I was very surprised when awhile later the woman came over and apologized for glaring at me when we'd met earlier. She said she'd been having a bad morning and was thinking of something else and never meant to glare at me that way. I was just amazed, because that sort of apology was something I never expected from that particular person! While the glare certainly hadn't ruined my day, her apology did make the day seem much brighter.
 
I have never shown in an AMHA show. I have in AMHR/ASPC and now Pinto. I love them both. One difference I saw in the Pinto. They went out of their way to say hello and make us feel welcomed. I know normally we are busy and concentrating on getting our horses ready etc. Knowing how nice it was to be so welcomed makes me realize how such a little thing as a smile and a hello can be a big thing.
 
Jbrat to show Pinto you do have to register them pinto. If your horses do not have papers it costs more to register them. But you can do it with your non papered horses. Their first show next year will be in Ashland.
 

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