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I am thinking about breeding my boxer. I keep saying not until her winter heat. She is in season now but is not 2 until next month. Lori thinks now if I want to do it as she cant handle the blood and mess another time. I said not until winter.

Opinions?
 
In answer to your original question as to whether or not she is old enough to breed, I would say yes, she is definately old enough to breed.
 
I have to agree with Lucy. IMO, spay your boxer and if you want a puppy, go get one from a shelter.
 
More from Boxerworld.com, an excellent resource on all things Boxer:

What should I look for in a breeder?

The very first thing you should look for in a breeder is one who breeds only properly health tested stock. The boxer breed is prone to several serious genetically-inherited health conditions that need to be screened for prior to breeding. These are: aortic stenosis, boxer cardiomyopathy and hip dysplasia. Testing for corneal dystrophy is also appreciated, and a dog that has ever developed generalised mange must not be bred. Remember that these are serious health conditions that will severely impact on the quality and length of life of any affected puppies. While health screening of breeding stock can’t absolutely guarantee a puppy won’t be affected, it substantially reduces the risk. Your breeder should be able to provide you with hard copies of the satisfactory test results for both parents. If they can’t (or won’t), find another breeder.

Your breeder should also offer a minimum of 1-year written guarantee against genetic health conditions, preferably 2-3 years.

A good breeder should also (successfully) show their breeding stock. Conformation showing isn’t some elitist beauty pageant, it is exists for the purpose of assessing potential breeding stock. If you’re going to buy a purebred boxer, you want a boxer that looks and behaves like a boxer! Well, conformation showing is about the independent assessment of how much a dog looks like a boxer is supposed to and, to a lesser extent, how closely it’s temperament matches that which a boxer is supposed to have.

Warning signs – be very suspicious of any breeder who:

Does not or cannot produce hard copies of health testing carried out on the parents of a puppy you’re considering. Just don’t buy from this person.

Does not provide a written guarantee against genetic disorders.

Does not show and title their dogs. Not all dogs need to be shown and titled, but if a breeder doesn’t show any of their dogs or none of them are of sufficient quality to gain a title, find a better breeder.

Employs lots of phrases and buzzwords such as “champion lines”. We don’t want to see one titled great-grandparent in a pedigree, we want to see titled parents and grandparents.

Allows, or asks you to take your puppy home before it is at least 7, and preferably 8, weeks old (note that 8 weeks is the legal minimum in many places).

Tries to sell you are “rare” colour such as white (not rare), reverse brindle (not rare) or black (does not exist in a purebred boxer). Also beware of a breeder who presents a black puppy, calling it “reverse brindle”, especially if it is also “rare”. Backyard breeders have caught on that boxers can’t be black and some are now marketing black mixed breed puppies as reverse brindle. Very dark brindle boxers do exist, but the fawn striping should still be clearly visible especially in good light. See our colour genetics page http://www.boxerworld.com/forums/view_boxer-coat-colour.htm for more information on coat colour and inheritance.

Charges more for “papers”. The AKC prohibits charging for registration papers. What is a breeder going to do with those papers anyway – use them for another dog or sell them to someone else to do the same? Don’t laugh, it does happen. Steer clear of anyone engaging in this practice.

You can read more about what are and aren't acceptable reasons to breed boxers (and how to go about learning to do things the right way!) at http://www.boxerworld.com/forums/view_top-...ve-to-breed.htm
 
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Opinions?
I thought you had recently wondered about finding her a new home? Personally, I do not recommend breeding beloved pets. SO many things can go wrong and there are plenty of experienced breeders out there if / when you want another puppy.
 
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I think you are asking for trouble personally. Not against your dog but I think you really have your hands full, you were just discussing getting rid of your boxer a couple months ago? Puppies are a lot of work ALOT of work and take a lot of time to socialize and take care of and with a new baby, new horses you are wanting to learn how to ride just seems like a lot to take on at once but that is just my opinin which you did not ask for so to answer your question yes she is breedable now.
 
More from Boxerworld.com, an excellent resource on all things Boxer:
What should I look for in a breeder?

The very first thing you should look for in a breeder is one who breeds only properly health tested stock. The boxer breed is prone to several serious genetically-inherited health conditions that need to be screened for prior to breeding. These are: aortic stenosis, boxer cardiomyopathy and hip dysplasia. Testing for corneal dystrophy is also appreciated, and a dog that has ever developed generalised mange must not be bred. Remember that these are serious health conditions that will severely impact on the quality and length of life of any affected puppies. While health screening of breeding stock can’t absolutely guarantee a puppy won’t be affected, it substantially reduces the risk. Your breeder should be able to provide you with hard copies of the satisfactory test results for both parents. If they can’t (or won’t), find another breeder.

Your breeder should also offer a minimum of 1-year written guarantee against genetic health conditions, preferably 2-3 years.

A good breeder should also (successfully) show their breeding stock. Conformation showing isn’t some elitist beauty pageant, it is exists for the purpose of assessing potential breeding stock. If you’re going to buy a purebred boxer, you want a boxer that looks and behaves like a boxer! Well, conformation showing is about the independent assessment of how much a dog looks like a boxer is supposed to and, to a lesser extent, how closely it’s temperament matches that which a boxer is supposed to have.

Warning signs – be very suspicious of any breeder who:

Does not or cannot produce hard copies of health testing carried out on the parents of a puppy you’re considering. Just don’t buy from this person.

Does not provide a written guarantee against genetic disorders.

Does not show and title their dogs. Not all dogs need to be shown and titled, but if a breeder doesn’t show any of their dogs or none of them are of sufficient quality to gain a title, find a better breeder.

Employs lots of phrases and buzzwords such as “champion lines”. We don’t want to see one titled great-grandparent in a pedigree, we want to see titled parents and grandparents.

Allows, or asks you to take your puppy home before it is at least 7, and preferably 8, weeks old (note that 8 weeks is the legal minimum in many places).

Tries to sell you are “rare” colour such as white (not rare), reverse brindle (not rare) or black (does not exist in a purebred boxer). Also beware of a breeder who presents a black puppy, calling it “reverse brindle”, especially if it is also “rare”. Backyard breeders have caught on that boxers can’t be black and some are now marketing black mixed breed puppies as reverse brindle. Very dark brindle boxers do exist, but the fawn striping should still be clearly visible especially in good light. See our colour genetics page http://www.boxerworld.com/forums/view_boxer-coat-colour.htm for more information on coat colour and inheritance.

Charges more for “papers”. The AKC prohibits charging for registration papers. What is a breeder going to do with those papers anyway – use them for another dog or sell them to someone else to do the same? Don’t laugh, it does happen. Steer clear of anyone engaging in this practice.

You can read more about what are and aren't acceptable reasons to breed boxers (and how to go about learning to do things the right way!) at http://www.boxerworld.com/forums/view_top-...ve-to-breed.htm

Of course we agree on sooooo many things....

PS: I would love to see more pics of your Doxie / Poo mixes.. !
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I am fully prepaired to get all the testing done that is needed to make sure she is in shape to breed, if she is not, then she will not be bred.

The getting rid of her thing was only because people were hounding me to do so because of the baby, not because I wanted to. She is actually excellent with the baby.

And as for the horses, not that its anybodys business. By summers end I will be down to 4. Most of them have homes already but wont be leaving until the end of summer. I have decided riding isnt for me, and sold Blue(even though he will be staying here). I will just have my old boy if I care to go for a ride.
 
i'd have to agree with lucy but if you do decide to breed her, you should absolutely have her tested for degenerative myelopathy. there is a DNA test that can be done very simply to determine if your dog is at risk. there are several breeds that are majorly affected by this horrible disease and boxers are at the top of the list. PLEASE don't breed without testing for this. it is the ONLY way this disease will ever be brought under control.

speaking from experience, there are not many things worse than watching a beloved dog deteriorate from DM.
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Speaking of breeding dogs, I wonder what the price tag really is for all those tests that should be done before a dog is bred. . .maybe some of the other dog breeders could chime in on that. Can't imagine it would be cheap!!
 
doxie/poo????? Oh my..I am shocked,
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I "thought someone" owned only the best of the AKC best!
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(at least the way she posts)and was so against any designer type of dogs. After all the feedback I got, from her about using the term royal for my poodles, not to mention..the hurt feeling that were caused to other members about raising designer type dogs..
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WOW~~ amazing what some people will let others THINK ...
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JUST AMAZING

Ashley, Do you feel like you can honestly afford to raise a little of puppies,with proper vet care, and everything else that goes along with it, including if she would need a c-section, and responsibly take on a litter at the same time. Also, keep in mind~ if you are not able to sell all the pups will you have the money and time to properly raise and socialize those, also for any vet visits the pups may need? Puppies take alot of time, patience and money. But if you feel like you can say yes, to the above..then you and only you should deceide if you honestly want to breed your pet. YOU not anyone else! It all boils down to responsibility, and the responsibility for raising the pups correct will be on you. I am raising 2 standard poodle pups right now (10 weeks old) and I could honestly say, I could not do it if I worked out of the home, and also had a precious baby in the house, my 2 "furkids" , and 2 "furbabies"take up most of my time,along with the horses, and I wouldnt want it any other way!
 
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the cost to test a dog for DM depends on a couple of factors. if the dog is older than 10 years and of a certain breed (boxers being one of those breeds), the test is free.

if a dog has symptoms of DM and has been presumptively diagnosed, the test is free.

for all other dogs, there is a fee of $65, i believe. you can either have your vet send in a blood sample or you can have the university of missouri mail you a kit to do a cheek swab and send it back to them for testing.

i cannot stress enough, ashley, that if you do want to breed this dog, HAVE HER TESTED FOR DM!!!!! it is a genetic disease. i had never even HEARD of this disease until simon began showing symptoms last december. his condition is steadily declining and it is breaking my heart. i have 2 choices...i can let him get to the point of total hind limb paralysis and put him in a cart or i can have him put to sleep while he still has his dignity. i have chosen the latter option and when that day comes, probably in a matter of months, i do not know how i will survive the loss of this dog.
 
YEs I can do it, both money and labor. I always function on a full plate. It was something that was discussed before I thought about breeding her. I am the only one working out of the home right now so there will be plenty here to help raise them.

I know the costs as I have a friend that breeds dogs and have been working with her to find out everything I need to know, and she is more then willing to help me along the way when needed.

I would never breed her with out having all the testing done. Hence why I was going to wait until next cycle as I have always been told some of the tests need to be done at 2 years of age.
 
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ashley, have you also studied the diseases and problems associated ONLY with boxers? just because you know about the problems and issues in general doesn't mean you know enough to go ahead and breed.

also, are you prepared to either wait for, or pay yourself for, a stud dog that has ALSO been tested for genetic diseases as well as other issues?

i can't even begin to describe to you the heartache of learning that one of your beloved dogs suffers from a genetic disease that will take him well before his time. i only stress this because degenerative myelopathy has been found to affect a great many purebred boxers.

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http://www.americanboxerclub.org/purina1.html

if you don't know about this disease, it's time for you to learn.
 
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I have posted pictures of my two Toy Poodle, Miniature Dachshund mixes/mutts/("designer dogs/doxiepoos," if you insist) here before.
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I have never claimed to be "against mutts," whatever that means. I don't even believe the AKC is the be all, end all of dog registries. *gasp* I'm not sure what's so confusing, shocking or amazing about any of that information, or what it has to do with breeding Boxers responsibly, but this is the interwebs! Now to add a bunch of snark covered smileys and references to "someone" when it's clear who I am talking about to make my post complete...
 
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Back to the original topic:

Ashley, that's great. When you are ready, you can use that Boxer of America site to find a breeder in your area with a tested dog. I believe they even offer a mentor program.
 
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Ashley I was not trying to be mean.I honestly had no idea how much work puppies were until I had them. I had thought well the mom does it all how much can it be. I literally spent hours a day with them of course as newborns you do not do so much other then weigh and make sure everyone is eating enough but shortly after comes the socializing handling, checking to make sure they are gaining weight, potty training not to mention just the fun of playing with them. They really consume your daily life
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All of that said there is nothing funner then watching them grow and develop personalities and seeing them go to great homes. I love getting updates on our puppies now that they are all grown up and happy family members.
 

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