National Show Pony Registry --

[Bluerocket]

Hello to all:

I am looking at purchasing a weanling colt whose dam is AMHR and whose sire is unregistered. He is a beautiful colt - and definitely has stallion potential -- I won't decide about gelding him until he is mature... and I can see what his potential really is.

It is my understanding that this colt can be registered with the new National Show Pony Registry (part of ASPC/AMHR). I believe he may need to be DNA'd and PQ against his AMHR registered parent (mother in this case) - but am not sure about that.

Are any of you registering horses with the NSPR (National Show Pony Registry) and if so -- what are you registering?

Do the AMHR/ASPC shows have classes for these horses?

What sort of value do you personally assign to horses registered ONLY with this NSPR?

I am mostly interested in ADS competitions - but want to make sure that the horses I produce (limited breeding here) are registerable with some registry -- that is meaningful.

Thanks for your input.

JJay

 

[Karen S]

Hi JJ,

Here is what you are needing in regards to the new National Show Pony Registry...

2005 ASPC/AMHR Rulebook, Part 21 page 65..General Rules

A. The National Show Pony Registry will be opend to any pony 14.2 and under that can be verified by DNA that one parent is registered in either ASPC or AMHR. A stallion report is not required to be filed in order to register a NSPR animal for these are performance only, not breeding animals. DNA forms are available from the National office or the website at www.shetlandminiature.com.

B. Traditionally children progress from a lead line Shetland to a larger pony. In light of ASPC/AMHR's strong commitment to youth, it goes without saying that the National Show Pony will encourage our youth to continue to be active in the organization through adulthood. This will also be an animal that can appeal to a group that is not presently interested in Shetlands or Miniature Horses.

C. There are three divisions to begin with: Wester, Hunter, and Carriage. ASPC will begin by adding some classes at the ASPC Congress in 2006. Great care will be taken with the classes and rules, in order that these animals will be able to go from a show approved by ASPC to another Western, Hunter, or Carriage show and not have to change rules, equiptment, or training.

There are a few people right now that have started registering their ASPC or AMHR crosses into this new program. What I do know right now is this...if you have a registered X animal bred to either an ASPC or AMHR animal, the pedigrees will show the registered X animals background. If the X animal is a grade pony then you will only have one line of history on their pedigrees.

I hopefully will have something in the next two years that will be participating in this new Registry. I'm looking forward to having a Shetland cross that I can ride and compete on.

Karen Shaw

Fiddlestix Miniatures & Shetlands

 

[Sunraye Miniatures]

What it sounds like from what I'm understanding is you are want to use him for breeding. Well like you see above the NSPR is a performance registry only not a breeding registry. So sure you can breed him but you cannot register his foals. Your pretty much signing an agreement with AMHR that you will not use him for breeding purposes.

I don't care for this registry but think about registring him into WCMHR. Or maybe possibly hardship him into AMHA when he's old enough if he will be A size.

 

[JennyB]

What it sounds like from what I'm understanding is you are want to use him for breeding. Well like you see above the NSPR is a performance registry only not a breeding registry. So sure you can breed him but you cannot register his foals. Your pretty much signing an agreement with AMHR that you will not use him for breeding purposes.
I don't care for this registry but think about registring him into WCMHR. Or maybe possibly hardship him into AMHA when he's old enough if he will be A size.

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I am also very interested in this registry, but not being able to register from a registered NSPR pony x NSPR pony..why not ? When one starts a registry it is to produce, use and improve of the animals in question. I can see having a registry where you can register any foals

Can I get more feed-back or info about this please.

Thanks

Jenny

 

[Lewella]

The NSPR is being treated like just about every other "half" registry there is out there. With Arab's you cannot breed a half Arab to a half Arab and get another half Arab - if you want a registered foal from your half Arab you have to breed it to a purebred Arab and the resulting foal will be 3/4 Arab but still in the "half" registry. Same goes for Welsh. Half Welsh must be bred to a registered Welsh to produce a foal that can be registered in the half registry. Half Welsh to half Welsh cannot produce a registerable half Welsh.

 

[Bluerocket]

Thanks for the good info!

I believe that I could breed this NSPR stallion to AMHR or ASPC registered mares and have NSPR registered foals (dna'd PQ'd to mom). For whatever that would be worth.

Too bad AMHR closed the registry to non-AMHA registered horses for hardshipping. That would be the best solution - but it is not an option in this case. I do believe he will stay under 34 -- but could be 35

No chance for AMHA registration if he does not remain small enough.

Thanks again for the input.

JJay