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  1. Songcatcher

    Do I have to have him checked for OLWS ?

    Many, if not most, Frames have brown eyes. While Frames sometimes have blue eyes, it is not essential.
  2. Songcatcher

    Central Championship Show Results

    Congratulations Parmela on a job well done! Glad you are getting back to what you love to do.
  3. Songcatcher

    New Appy Mare

    Congratulations Viki. Nicely built mare. You are dedicated to stand in that kind of heat to bid.
  4. Songcatcher

    coat color question

    Well, thanks for the compliment. Here's a link to a page that may help understand a little more. http://songcatcherranch.webs.com/horsecolorgenetics101.htm
  5. Songcatcher

    coat color question

    Since your boy carries both Black and Red, he has a 50/50 chance or throwing either. Therefore, if bred to a mare that also carries Red, there is the chance of a Red based foal. Bay is Black based, Black + Agouti. The Agouti restricts the Black to the points. Buckskin is Black + Agouti +...
  6. Songcatcher

    coat color question

    Yes, with a Red gene, he can throw Palomino, Cremello, and Sorrel/Chestnut. Agouti will not show on a Red based horse, even when they carry it. He cannot produce Black or Smokey Black, as the Agouti will make it a Bay or Buckskin.
  7. Songcatcher

    Color and clipping

    I would say she is a Black Sabino, although the Sabino may easily be one of the forms that there is no test for. I doubt she is Frame, but I always recommend testing breeding animals for LWO (Frame) just to be sure. I doubt clipping her would show much more white at this point. Summer coat is...
  8. Songcatcher

    What would you do?

    I cannot blame the buyer for wanting to get papers, but would blame them if they EXPECT to get them for nothing. Explain to them the situation and that the sellers sold them a horse that had been given to them. Papers are worth something and they should be paid for. On the other hand, there...
  9. Songcatcher

    Hello from a newbie!!!

    Welcome from Oklahoma. It sounds like she is really close, but they can sometimes be very deceiving. More than once I have woke up and looked at my monitor and could swear there was a foal in the stall, and after getting up and going out to the barn, discover that it was just a shadow in the...
  10. Songcatcher

    Opinions wanted

    VERY, very nice. Clear and easy to get around. I like the thumbnails and videos. Nice touch.
  11. Songcatcher

    I got my first mini today

    Congratulations and welcome to the forum from Oklahoma. You probably already know this, but if you choose to get a mare as a buddy, be sure to wait 6-8 weeks after gelding to put them together in order to avoid any surprises. A few sperm tend to linger around for a while after gelding. I envy...
  12. Songcatcher

    Black based question

    Yes, that is definitely possible. The two base colors are Black and Red. White markings cover parts (or all) of the base color, but White is not a base color. You can test to see if it is Black or Red or heterozygous Black/Red.
  13. Songcatcher

    How are your horses doing in this heat?

    I'm not hard to please. I would be perfectly happy to go from fall directly to spring and from spring directly to fall.
  14. Songcatcher

    Pedigree look up AMHA

    Teardrop Montana is registered as Sorrel Pinto and 32 inches. If the Teardrop you are looking for has a prefix, She may indeed be A registered. If you know of foals by a particular stallion, I might be able to look up by looking at the get of the stallion.
  15. Songcatcher

    Pedigree look up AMHA

    Sorry, I don't have the R Studbook to be able to compare.
  16. Songcatcher

    Pedigree look up AMHA

    There is a Teardrop Montana, but born in 1970. Don't think that is what you are looking for. Hidden Meadows Holy Smoke is registered AMHA, current owner listed as Joe and Betty Burrows. Black Pinto born in 1987, son of Shadow Oaks Paul Bunyan.
  17. Songcatcher

    weefoal 38

    I have never used the 38, but I have been very dissatisfied with the 120 this year. I had two mares test positive that turned out not to be. There was no chance they lost a foal after testing.
  18. Songcatcher

    These Poor Minis

    Umm, people need to be reminded that it is against forum rules to post pictures of someone else's horses and criticize them.
  19. Songcatcher

    Tobianos With Paw Prints

    I think most people's difficulty in understanding Pinto genetics is that they get the idea that they must be one pattern or the other. NOT true. They can have all the patterns combined together. ALL of your horses pictured are Tobianos. BUT, like most all Pintos, they also carry other genes...
  20. Songcatcher

    Hello!

    Welcome from Oklahoma. The only mud we've has for the last couple of months is where the water hose leaks. I expecially love your Black and White.
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