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[HaazeMinis]

This thread is appauling! :new_shocked: :no: I have been watching it closely and was hoping for a better out come than what I am seeing now. :no:

I will be sending emails to everyone of these contacts and I will be home this week, will be making phone calls as well. I have already been in contact with someone I veiw as a dear friend who is a Humane Officer in our state (WI) to find out what other steps can be taken to get these little one out of there. This is just to sad! :no:

Will let you know what she says when I talk with her tonight or tommorrow.

Jeri

 

[Wee Mite Miniatures]

Finding email addresses

Years ago when I had AOL I could search by town and get email address for everyone the listed in that town. I can not figure out how to do that with my email service. If any of you can with your provider try pulling up Uniontown, KS. If you find any email addresses send the some of the pictures. Ask them to check it out for themselves.

The Sheriff does not work for US he works for the people of the TOWN. Even if he will not listen to us if enough of the town people get involved in this he has to listen to them since they are the ones paying his salary.

 

[Danielle_E.]

Can someone who is a member of marestare.com (I can't for the life of me remember my user name and password) post a link to this thread in the "prayer... forum". I am SURE they would allow it in this case.

 

[AppyLover2]

I just sent a letter with pictures to RFD-TV. I sent a link to this topic and asked that Mike take a moment to look at the first page and at Ginnys update on page 56. I mentioned the gelding with maggots on his sheath, I mentioned the gelding who lost an eye. I mentioned the trash and the possible EPA danger.

I begged him to help us get media coverage.

My next letters will go out to TV affiliates. If we can't get the individual stations involved, maybe the people who keep them on the air will light a fire under their butts.

My Dear God in Heaven.........there's GOT to be someone out there who will help!!

More ideas for e-mail: CBS - The Early Show

ABC - Good Morning America

CNN - I just filed and "I Report"

 

[lvponies]

Great idea about Mare Stare!! I posted about the minis and included this link for more info and pix.

 

[minilovr]

OK, I have emailed and attached the pics, just in case they don't quite get the picture.

But I can't understand how there would be no humane society or other animal welfare organisation that could help...in NZ we have the SPCA, which is a charity with NO government help whatsoever. It's run on donations and legacies. They would have uplifted these horses some time ago.

Hope these poor little things can be sorted out real quick - they don't appear to have a lot of time left.

 

[Soggy Bottom Ranch]

I don't know if this was listed, or if it will even help, but grabbing at straws here! I know that State Vets don't do seizure or rescue, but darnit, they have the contacts for people who may be able to help! Am attaching a link to a page with numbers (fax and phone) and e-mail for all of these offices by state.

State Veterinarians.

Also, I know someone else asked this as well, but want to be sure before I do this. Ginny and Jess, are you ok with us copy and pasting your statments and photos to other forums, and including them in e-mails we send?

 

[AppyLover2]

Since it appears that Mr. T is in violation of Ks State Statute would it be possible to get an attorney involved? Could his herd sue him for neglect?(No, I'm not joking here.) Could we do it? Does anybody know an attorney who might discuss this to find out if there is anything we could do through legal channels that might help. I know we are hoping to get this accomplished without a court case, but potential pending legal action might get somebody's attention.

Another question - for Kansas residents - what is the law regarding Coggins test? Is it only required when transporting or are pasture-bound horses required to have them too. Also what about other laws which might require vaccinations, etc?

 

[EMB]

Has CMHR contacted Anderson Cooper? If I recall correctly he was quite valuable following Hurricane Katrina when folks were trying to get aid to mini farms who had been cut off from civilization and aid personnel were prevented from traveling in those areas. He even made it through to one farm and did a story.

On another note, I am still having difficulty understanding why those horses can't be seized. The KS Statute appears to have the necessary ingredients there. I can't see where that SO is being given all the authority. Perhaps if CMHR could get one Kansas vet on board, those horses could be seized.

"Any public health officer, law enforcement officer, licensed veterinarian or officer or agent of any incorporated humane society, animal shelter or other appropriate facility may take into custody any animal, upon either private or public property, which clearly shows evidence of cruelty to animals, as defined in K.S.A. 21-4310 and amendments thereto. Such officer, agent or veterinarian may inspect, care for or treat such animal or place such animal in the care of a duly incorporated humane society or licensed veterinarian for treatment, boarding or other care or, if an officer of such humane society or such veterinarian determines that the animal appears to be diseased or disabled beyond recovery for any useful purpose, for humane killing."

 

[Danielle_E.]

This site lists rescues in Kansas and various counties. Perhaps CMHR should contact them and get them to also start emailing etc, the sheriff, the county DA,m etc, etc. etc.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/5..._in_kansas.html

there are two pages

What other veterinarians are fairly close distance. I know one already went but perhaps we need to enlist the help of another. I am SURE people here would donate to pay for the "farm call" to get a vet over there and to write the report that should be written about these animals!!!!

It's also time to write to the veterinary board and have them get involved. Vets take an oath.....they can't turn a blind eye to this or they should have their license revoked!!!!

Get these individuals involved as well

http://www.kansasmhc.com/

 

[Marty]

Did anyone notice that in the statues that no where did it say the Sheriff had to give the owner 30 days to make amends?

What we need is pressure on the sheriff to convince him to grant CHMR permisson to seize and an immediate surrender of all horses into our care. He also has the power to arrest Mr. Trembly too if he wanted to throw that in. He has the paperwork in his office and the power to grant CHMR custody. We need pressure on the Sheriff to let him allow us to move in now and get the horses out of there. If the Sheriff will co-operate all his troubles will go away and he's going to want that once he finds out you guys are MAD!!!!!!

BOURBON COUNTY

Harold D. Coleman, Sheriff, PO Box 42, Ft. Scott, KS 66701

620/223-1440

FAX 223-0055

 

[SilverDollar]

I cannot believe the horror in those photos. So true what a few have said about how difficult it is to keep weight OFF minis. Hard to believe...

So many great ideas and suggestions...although now I'm feeling a bit overwhelmed.

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Is there a "plan of attack" as to mass action required? For example, a list of all the best and, hopefully, most effective names to email, phone and fax? It seems like we're doing the "spaghetti theory"--throwing it at the wall to see what sticks. I still think that's needed--we need to find someone who has the power and authority to step in.

I just want to make sure we're "bombarding" the right people. Thanks!!!

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Edited: Just saw your post Marty. Thanks!! (He will become the most infamous Sheriff in the country. You're right. We're MAD!!)

 

[EMB]

Marty, that was the point I made in my post just before yours. Nowhere in the KS Statute is the SO given the ultimate authority. It gives that office the right to seize as it does any law enforcement authority, among others, including any licensed vet. So in my books, the KS Statute is THE law that governs this situation. So find a Kansas vet, bring your trailers and get the horses.

 

[AppyLover2]

The only way I found to get something to Anderson Cooper was http://www.cnn.com/exchange/ireports/topic...03/theshot.html. I had already done an I-Report, but did another one which will hopefully get to his staff.

Is there a "plan of attack" as to mass action required? For example, a list of all the best and, hopefully, most effective names to email, phone and fax?

I've been doing things, but totally agree with SilverDollar. Someone with CMHR needs to provide names/addresses of a few people each day for us to bombard on that day. Perhaps we should start with the sheriff, the governor, the state attorney, or whoever. If we all focus our attention on certain individuals every day they would be totally bombarded. Can you imagine getting 100, 200, 300 e-mails in one day about one subject!

CMHR what do you think? Would one of you be willing to do that? We are definitely not going about this in any kind of organized fashion right now. I tend to think we would be more effective that way. Right now there must be over 100 different names, etc of people to contact scattered over this 66 pages. It's confusing and definitely overwhelming.

Edited to add even more people to contact. This link gives info on Kansas Senators and Representatives.

http://www.ipsr.ku.edu/ksdata/vote/20011.shtml Maybe they can get the Governor's attention.

 

[SilverDollar]

Another thought...(sorry, my brain is in overdrive searching for solutions!)

Can CMHR post a reference page on their website with a "Plan of Action for the Kansas Minis" to which we can refer everyone on all our cross-posts and email lists? Include the Sheriff contact information and anything that would be helpful to reference in our emails, letters and phone calls.

Thanks.

Rebecca

 

[EMB]

:aktion033: Good points Donna on the need for more concerted action.

Here is the link to Anderson Coopers page with contact info on the bottom. I am going to send him a mail now with the link to Ginny's update on P.56.

http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/anderson.c....360/index.html

 

[Soggy Bottom Ranch]

and anything that would be helpful to reference in our emails, letters and phone calls.

I was wondering the exact same thing. I don't want to say anything that would make the situation worse, or make a negative effect on CMHR.

 

[HobbsFarm]

Did anyone notice that in the statues that no where did it say the Sheriff had to give the owner 30 days to make amends?
What we need is pressure on the sheriff to convince him to grant CHMR permisson to seize and an immediate surrender of all horses into our care. He also has the power to arrest Mr. Trembly too if he wanted to throw that in. He has the paperwork in his office and the power to grant CHMR custody. We need pressure on the Sheriff to let him allow us to move in now and get the horses out of there. If the Sheriff will co-operate all his troubles will go away and he's going to want that once he finds out you guys are MAD!!!!!!

BOURBON COUNTY

Harold D. Coleman, Sheriff, PO Box 42, Ft. Scott, KS 66701

620/223-1440

FAX 223-0055

Here's another statute of interest Marty...

I have a close friend who is a police officer and also an animal lover. He has been following this story as well as listening to me vent about it often. He suggested we look at this law because maybe Trembly isn't the only guilty party in this situation...

21-3302

Chapter 21.--CRIMES AND PUNISHMENTS PART II.--PROHIBITED CONDUCT Article 33.--ANTICIPATORY CRIMES 21-3302. Conspiracy. (a) A conspiracy is an agreement with another person to commit a crime or to assist in committing a crime. No person may be convicted of a conspiracy unless an overt act in furtherance of such conspiracy is alleged and proved to have been committed by such person or by a co-conspirator.

It's obvious that, according to the Kansas Criminal Code, Trembly is guilty of Cruelty to Animals (21-4310). If anyone commits an "overt act" that furthers Trembly's crime (Cruelty to Animals) then that person can possibly be charged with Conspiracy to Commit Cruelty to Animals. The problem for us lies within the words "overt act". An overt act could be something as simple as "protecting" Trembly (which in this situation allows the cruelty to continue) or it could be something that involves more direct participation. And why would the sheriff in good conscience give Trembly 30 days when some of those horses are suffering and dying?? Why would he be lying to members of CMHR telling us that the horses are being cared for daily when we know they are not?

Is lying an overt act in this case??

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[Buckskin gal]

As Stephaney of Celtic Rein said, she will start a national campain:

-" I will start writing up emails to gather the callers tonight and have it ready first thing tomorrow morning to get everyone ready to start the Monday "call in".......the calls will continue relentlessly until something is done, that is how it works.

I will post everything here tomorrow - hopefully with everyone working together in an organized way, those little guys will get the help they need quickly. I'm sure we can also get fund-raising going for their care once out of there as well - I can not believe the condition those poor things are in. Especially considering the fact that we have to battle to keep weight OFF of our Miniature - he looks at food and gains 10 lbs."

She is ready and willing and not hesitating to organize :aktion033: :aktion033: :aktion033: you can contact her if you want: [email protected]

Continue to email or call any and all of the suggested people. This has to start yesterday not another week or two or three! Please keep your voices heard for those little guys who can't speak.

 

[Lisa-Ruff N Tuff Minis]

I did actually speak with Jennifer at a local news station she told me they are terribly understaffed today but could maybe get someone there during the week. I have sent her pictures from here as well as some names/numbers of CMHR people hopefully it will help

She will at least call me once she gets the email with the pictures and hopefully that will be a start if I dont hear from her soon I will call her again anyone with a heart has to feel something when they see these