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Well if MaryKansas is right we have an appology to make to Mr. Trembly and the Sheriff
I am afraid I can't go so far as that. This entire situation took too long to finally have it even looked at properly when that didn't need to be the case at all, so for me that statement is pushing the limit. What I will say is thank you to Mr. Trembly and thank you to the Sheriff for finally allowing the needed help to be made available and to be accepted. In a perfect world this never would have happened, in a perfect world, we wouldn't have had to get up in arms about this, in a perfect world, this would have been investigated IMMMEDIATELY upon being reported... I just want us all to move FORWARD at this point. You can't take away what was said, what I said, it was an emotionally charged issue, nobody purposely set-out to be vindictive or nasty.... we all focused on the animals and if we had not nothing would have been done. We HAD to push and push hard. Why could the sheriff not have just gone out there immediately, back in September, called the KSU vet.... this would have prevented alot of what transpired on the internet. No, I can't apologize or won't, not for what was needed. All we asked from the get go was "someone in authority, DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS".
 
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I want to make one thing perfectly clear:

I am very upset to think that some people think that CHMR acted in a nasty manner toward Trembly or The Sheriff's Department.

At NO time did any member of CHMR BOD (Shannon, Ginny, Gini, Jess, Marty) attack or disrespect Mr. Trembly verbally, etc. whatsoever. We NEVER harrassed him not once in any way shape or form. The Sheriff was the LIASON between us and Mr. Trembly. He promised us he would handle Trembly for us. We were ok with that. The Sheriff and his Deputy Grey are the ones that assured us they were working with Trembly to reduce his numbers / improve conditions/ get some surrendered to us etc. and we believed it. We fell for it hook line and sinker. At NO time did we ever disrespect the Sheriff or the Deputy even after we knew they lied to us. We at all times remained in a "professional capacity" during all our conversations with them and yes it was hard. We were firm but never nasty in the least. We did not cuss them out, raise our voices, smart off, etc. nothing like that although I am sure there were many times we wanted to but we remained curteous as anyone possibly could. They lied to us over and over, made complete fools of us, had many laughs at our expense, and hung us out to dry and we still did not engage in anything less than a prossional manner with them. If anyone behaved in an unprofessional manner through all this it is the Sheriff but certainly not CHMR.

It was only when Jess and I compared notes in a meeting and our notes did not jive, we were being fed conflicting stories by the Sheriff and his Deputy, we then realized we were being lied to by the Sheriff; he was doing nothing to help, and that is when Ginny went out there and reported back to us what you saw.

As far as the neighbors: They told people they have been trying to help Trembly for years and he was hateful to them and they were very glad help has finally arrived because they were sick of looking at the goings on over there. Maybe now they can all make ammends to in the neighborhood somehow.

Marty you misunderstood - I didn't mean to come down and fight with me - I meant that we need you to go to Uniontown to see for yourself.

Vicky I know that! Land your private chopper in my back field and lets go for a day trip there together lol
 
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I just don't know what to think right now. I do know that the internet is a scary thing sometimes. Small town rumors and gossips can hurt people and sometimes ruin them but the internet is world wide and we can so easily get carried away with it. I don't know what else to say ... I'm just fladdergasted!

The internet can be a scary thing, that's why I don't believe lots of what I read on the internet. I don't foward things on or act on them unless I know the source of where they are coming from.

But I do believe the president and other members of CMHR. Nope, I've never met them, but still to me they are not strangers. I've seen other good work they've been involved in. They are not vicious people that are out to destroy this man. They didn't go in this for the glory of CMHR. From the beginning, they said they didn't think they had the resources to handle this rescue but they sure wanted all of us to do whatever we could to get these animals some help. I believe Virginia saw the awful things that she told us about, and I believe those pictures of those horses were from that farm and were not doctored in any way.

That is enough for me to know that we did the right thing here in getting the horses help as fast as we could.

You know, a lot of people on this forum and other forums did say not so nice things about Mr. Trembly. But the news coverage itself was pretty fair and non-biased and allowed Mr. Trembly to present his side of the story. For people outside of this forum, the news coverage is probably what is going to stick in their heads about this case, if anything sticks in their heads at all about it.
Thank you Reijel's Mom. That eases my mind some. And I am truly glad Mr. Trembly and the horses got the help they need.
 
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I have been in lurker mode for the past week or so, but have been on the phone and e-mailing with Marty and Ginny St P (please forgive can't remember if it is Gini or Ginny). While I don't personally have mini's, I can offer some insight as to how Mr. Trembly came to feel as if the world was picking on him. I can also offer some explanation regarding the hay based on personal experience.

About a year ago, I ran into a similar situation such as Ronni found with Mr Trembly. An elderly lady had a VERY large herd of Arabian horses that while not as dire as the pics I saw of the mini's were none the less facing a bleak future if the rains didn't come. This lady also loved her horses and had many senior citizens that she had bred and raised. Due to detoriating health, the horses care wasn't as good as it once at had been and after several visits to her farm I was finally able to persuade her to reduce the herd to a manageable number. If this had not been the case, I might have resorted to the internet to pressure the issue. However when one pushes the right buttons in cyberspace, the result can be a flood of calls for self-righteous individuals that don't use much tact when describing their opinions of the care provided. Not saying that these folks are wrong in their opinions, just stating a fact that after enough of these types of phone calls one may tend to become EXTREMLY defensive towards people offering to help.

As to the hay: Here in NE Okla we had a severe drought the past two years. Pastures were just about down to dirt only until this year when we had ubber abundance of rain. As a result of the over abundance of the wet stuff and previous drought conditions, weeds have taken over most of the former grass pastures. I can attest to how hard it is to keep the weeds in check. Everytime it dried out enough to cut our pastures, it would rain again. Makes it rather hard to keep the weeds at bay don't ya' think? The county extension agent has said that while our county is getting a large tonnage number for hay, it won't be great quality due to the rain/weed factor. Good news for cattle, not so much for horses.

Okay so my point to all this rambling is simple. It is easy to throw stones at the "bad man". It is not so easy to understand the how's and why's of a situation when you have preconcieved notations. Try and open your mind instead of passing judgement until ALL the facts are in.
 
I want to make one thing perfectly clear:
I am very upset to think that some people think that CHMR acted in a nasty manner toward Trembly or The Sheriff's Department.

At NO time did any member of CHMR BOD (Shannon, Ginny, Gini, Jess, Marty) attack or disrespect Mr. Trembly verbally, etc. whatsoever. We NEVER harrassed him not once in any way shape or form. The Sheriff was the LIASON between us and Mr. Trembly. He promised us he would handle Trembly for us. We were ok with that. The Sheriff and his Deputy Grey are the ones that assured us they were working with Trembly to reduce his numbers / improve conditions/ get some surrendered to us etc. and we believed it. We fell for it hook line and sinker. At NO time did we ever disrespect the Sheriff or the Deputy even after we knew they lied to us. We at all times remained in a "professional capacity" during all our conversations with them and yes it was hard. We were firm but never nasty in the least. We did not cuss them out, raise our voices, smart off, etc. nothing like that although I am sure there were many times we wanted to but we remained curteous as anyone possibly could. They lied to us over and over, made complete fools of us, had many laughs at our expense, and hung us out to dry and we still did not engage in anything less than a prossional manner with them. If anyone behaved in an unprofessional manner through all this it is the Sheriff but certainly not CHMR.

It was only when Jess and I compared notes in a meeting and our notes did not jive, we were being fed conflicting stories by the Sheriff and his Deputy, we then realized we were being lied to by the Sheriff; he was doing nothing to help, and that is when Ginny went out there and reported back to us what you saw.

Marty you misunderstood - I didn't mean to come down and fight with me - I meant that we need you to go to Uniontown to see for yourself.

Vicky I know that! Land your private chopper in my back field and lets go for a day trip there together lol


Maybe not personally, but there where hateful things said by some of the CMHR BOD Publicly, and I am sorry if I think a Rescue should be more professional publicly and privately, what you say at home is one thing, what you think is one thing, I cried watching the video like anyone else, but I never chose to BASH someone I did not know......I just wanted HELP for the horses and for him.

CMHR never personally sat down and tried to work with Mr. Trembly or tell them what the Rescue has to offer his horses........I know this for a fact.....
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Yes I do realize someone formally with CMHR did speak with him but none of the CMHR BOD........ I think CMHR is a wonderful Rescue, don't misunderstand that at all, and I would be more than happy to help whenever needed in any situation, but publicly I am not sure I agree with the comments in this situation..... JMHO
 
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I think there is a slight mistake here which maybe I can help to clear up.

Ever hear of a "false dichotomy"? That is when people act as though there are only two choices - and if ONE isn't true, then the OTHER ONE has to be true. (Here's an example - if someone says, "I don't like the color orange" and another person says in disgust, "What - you mean you like BLUE?!" as though there were only two colors you could like, when in fact there are lots of colors!) People sort of naturally think in this way but reality is not actually like that.

MaryKansas was not saying that CMHR did anything wrong or mean - the situation is not, EITHER the sheriff and Vern are horrible jerks, OR they are saints. It is clearly in between these two extremes. There is no doubt in my mind that Vern has too many horse right now, that some desperately need help, and that the sheriff was trying to get everyone to "butt out". But at the same time, it is also clear that not ALL of the horses are in desperate need of help, that Vern truly does want to help them, and that the sheriff CAN be cooperative and helpful (especially when the nation is watching
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It is still a situation that needs concern, but no one should feel that the initial people who reported on it are wrong or not telling the truth. Marty is right I am sure, the sheriff and Vern were treated with respect by the rescue people, they did not say anything wrong. It's just that like most of life, this situation is very complex and can't be simplified into black and white.

It would be nice if life were so simple we could say EITHER these people are evil monsters OR they are wonderful people. But life is not like that, so let's not get fooled into thinking that way when the most important thing is to just deal with the situation and get help to the horses that need it.
 
Maybe not personally, but there where hateful things said by some of the CMHR BOD Publicly, and I am sorry if I think a Rescue should be more professional publicly and privately, what you say at home is one thing, what you think is one thing, I cried watching the video like anyone else, but I never chose to BASH someone I did not know......I just wanted HELP for the horses and for him.
CMHR never personally sat down and tried to work with Mr. Trembly or tell them what the Rescue has to offer his horses........I know this for a fact..... Yes I do realize someone formally with CMHR did speak with him but none of the CMHR BOD........ I think CMHR is a wonderful Rescue, don't misunderstand that at all, and I would be more than happy to help whenever needed in any situation, but publicly I am not sure I agree with the comments in this situation..... JMHO
This he said, she said, is not going to get us anywhere, and it's only going to start a fight. Come one people, everyone, and yes that includes me too.

Lets work together, forget the past it's DONE, we can't change it, we might not agree with it, but please please let it go, we are now at the present, TODAY, lets look forward, lets get this situation under total control... THAT is what is now important. Everyone has had valid points, everyone had a right to their opinions, we have expended our emotions so much in the last weeks, now lets use that emotion to go foward, to get the "job" accomplished and to have a good ending for all concerned, Please?
 
I am embarrassed by post I made yesterday. They were out of frustration. I think others may have posted out of frustration. Meaning the digs about farrier care, junk on the property etc.

I do hope that vern surrenders the horses, for their well being. He may be able to manage some but there is always that powderkeg.

If he keeps horses I would like to think that local help is available. I have emailed most elected officals in authority from Bourbon county suggesting that they try to get the 4H or bettr yet the FFA involved. The FFA has programs that would provide non-ag members to help care for the animals. This to me would be a good option, should horses remain on the property.

The upcoming winter is a real concern. Living my whole life in Kansas and attending college in that geographic area I can tell you that a mild winter is more common than winters mentioned on this forum. Last winter was very unusal with the major ice storm. A bad one seems to happen about every 10 years. My horses seem to prefer being out in the weather, snow, ice rain etc. I would say our average winter daily temperatures are in the low to mid 30s. Every winter there may be a handful of days where I wished my horse were in the house with my other family.

That being said they would still need major improvements to winter at his place. All of our water tanks have heaters and he apparently doesn't have capabilities to provide heaters. I personally do not like large round bales of hay for horses, due to the mold possibilities. Around here most of the persons who do large and round bales will bale almost anything in the large and bale their best hay in small squares, for the horse customers.

It would be my absolute guess that his best conditioned horses may have a hard time wintering. We had one stallion that got a little skinny last winter due to the poor quality hay available. It has taken us most of the spring and summer to get him back in shape. Speaking of hay quality, it is fairly abundent this year but it will take probably anothe year until it is real good quality.

Don't feel sorry for vern and his financial well being. Remember that he has 80 acres there and owns a farm in Nebraska. He may own land other places also. I believe the sheriff was quoted as saying "he has more money than God"

He has not channeled the money to care for the horses.

Where is his farrier care?

Has he followed a dental program?

He absolutely need to get rid of the junk. That is an invitation for wounding his horses, maybe that is how the one lost its eye. Also a major mosquito breeding grounds. Didn't the sheriff vet or someone with authority say that yea he had a couple die from West Nile Virus.

Does he have any sort of vacine program in place?

All the authorities seem to agree that his worming program isn't working.

His feed program isn't working either.

If these were my horses I would also be looking for a different vet. I just wonder if Dr. Grey that went with the sheriff is vern's vet. Looking at her web site she is a small animal vet that make farm calls for livestock. He need an equine specialist.

I really hope he let's the rest of his herd go to homes that can care for them properly. If some were in the area maybe vern would get visitation rights, that way he could still love and see his horses and know that they are getting care that he can't/won't give them.
 
I know I am going to get burned to a crisp on this one, but I can't get it out of my head, so I'm writing it down on this public forum, anyway.

Here is a letter to you all:

I would really like a herd of about 100 minis and some goats. It would make me really happy. The only thing is, I’m going to need some help to clean up and maintain my property. Oh, and I would also like someone else to do the chores, because I can’t do them every day, and might not be able to get there every day. And if I could get donations for vet care, that would be great, because if the bills are too large I’m not going to be able to pay them. And if you could see about getting someone to help me with paying for things like worming, farrier services, etc, that would also be really helpful, because I'm not going to be able to afford that on a regular basis, either. Otherwise, they'll just have to do without much of the time. Thanks for any assistance you can provide!

Sincerely,

Renee McArtor

ETA: Please read my next post on hoarding. That will probably be a whole lot more helpful than the above letter I wrote. Just continuing to try and point out that there is something really wrong here (not that we all don't already know it!)
 
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This is my first post here. I have been reading this with tears streaming down my face for about a week now and as this is unfolding I have to wonder, if this is a matter of pure neglect or something deeper. I think everybody on this post did a great job! I also think the people who have offered to help Mr. Trembly are doing something great too! I believe though when you go out to help you need to look closely around the property for any other reasons that may have caused these horses to become so bad off. I have heard of contaminated ponds that have killed horses before. I think some water testing should be done. If he has truely been working with the vet to find out why some of his horses are going downhill, maybe they haven't found the answer yet. I know what's like when the vet doesn't know what the problem is and they just keep telling you,"try this" and when that doesn't work they say "Well try this". I know this wouldn't explain the lack of farrier care, but if the horses had access to water and were reluctant to drink it, chosing only to drink from the fresh water provided, it could explain some of it. But of course, maybe with the droughts around the country and maybe there, he just didn't calculate how much more he was going to have to feed. I do hope everybody keeps on top of this and keeps us posted on how things progress.

Shelia
 
Somethimes it is hard to feel justified in outrage when there isn't a bad guy.

The dedication and persistence by CMHR to find out the facts is exemplary and they must continue to be a big part of what happens to all of the minis. Ginny has driven (no helicopter needed) from Tennessee to Kansas several times - not just once - her observations on that first visit are still valid. At that time Trembly was angry, hiding and uncooperative. He did cooperate with his local support - the sheriff who had a different perspective all along. Now that Trembly is getting past the anger hide and fight stage a different perspective of what is actually happening is evolving. The BOD of CMHR has put tireless hours into getting the situation to a workable solution, always with the thought that if it did not become workable it would be a legal battle. I put hours into getting that back up ready and set aside obligations in other cases (going to trial soon) this week and early next to be ready to fly (SW Air - no helicopter necessary) there to file and appear before the local district court. The CMHR BOD has spent tireless hours cooperating with local horse rescue groups to get to the bottom of what the situation is. THose groups have put tireless hours and effort in - driving from all over Kansas to Uniontown and to Ft. Scott to find the best way for the situation to be handled. Individuals from all over Kansas have pledged time and effort to helping those groups effect thebest outcome.

THe folks on the forum that continue to want to hold this guy's feet to the fire serve a very important balance in the view of what needs to happen as well. There are many disagreements over what that should be but it is because there are no single solutions that are right - only what will work and what won't.

Planning a work day is huge and I applaud those who are volunteering to help that effort. THose are the folks who need financial help to pay for gas, babysitters, rent flat beds, get some groceries into the poeple there - get emergency supplies and care for the horses until Trembly has it handled and then to continue to schedule of follow up through the local mini horse and rescue groups. It is a shoulder up and not a lynching.

One thing remains true: it is not over until Trembly no longer has any livestock. We have to keep up the energy and interest all the way. It is the long haul and not the neat and clean ending of snatching the horses and go on to the next topic on the forum after patting ourselves on the back.

You want to do something now - get the word out to the same news casts about the positive community safety net coming around this man for the love of the minis and the love of humanity. Keep writing - just change the tone from complaint and outrage to appreciate and support. Oh and fund raising for the rescue groups for the next disaster coming around the bend.
 
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I am embarrassed by post I made yesterday. They were out of frustration. I think others may have posted out of frustration. Meaning the digs about farrier care, junk on the property etc.

I do hope that vern surrenders the horses, for their well being. He may be able to manage some but there is always that powderkeg.

If he keeps horses I would like to think that local help is available. I have emailed most elected officals in authority from Bourbon county suggesting that they try to get the 4H or bettr yet the FFA involved. The FFA has programs that would provide non-ag members to help care for the animals. This to me would be a good option, should horses remain on the property.

The upcoming winter is a real concern. Living my whole life in Kansas and attending college in that geographic area I can tell you that a mild winter is more common than winters mentioned on this forum. Last winter was very unusal with the major ice storm. A bad one seems to happen about every 10 years. My horses seem to prefer being out in the weather, snow, ice rain etc. I would say our average winter daily temperatures are in the low to mid 30s. Every winter there may be a handful of days where I wished my horse were in the house with my other family.

That being said they would still need major improvements to winter at his place. All of our water tanks have heaters and he apparently doesn't have capabilities to provide heaters. I personally do not like large round bales of hay for horses, due to the mold possibilities. Around here most of the persons who do large and round bales will bale almost anything in the large and bale their best hay in small squares, for the horse customers.

It would be my absolute guess that his best conditioned horses may have a hard time wintering. We had one stallion that got a little skinny last winter due to the poor quality hay available. It has taken us most of the spring and summer to get him back in shape. Speaking of hay quality, it is fairly abundent this year but it will take probably anothe year until it is real good quality.

Don't feel sorry for vern and his financial well being. Remember that he has 80 acres there and owns a farm in Nebraska. He may own land other places also. I believe the sheriff was quoted as saying "he has more money than God"

He has not channeled the money to care for the horses.

Where is his farrier care?

Has he followed a dental program?

He absolutely need to get rid of the junk. That is an invitation for wounding his horses, maybe that is how the one lost its eye. Also a major mosquito breeding grounds. Didn't the sheriff vet or someone with authority say that yea he had a couple die from West Nile Virus.

Does he have any sort of vacine program in place?

All the authorities seem to agree that his worming program isn't working.

His feed program isn't working either.

If these were my horses I would also be looking for a different vet. I just wonder if Dr. Grey that went with the sheriff is vern's vet. Looking at her web site she is a small animal vet that make farm calls for livestock. He need an equine specialist.

I really hope he let's the rest of his herd go to homes that can care for them properly. If some were in the area maybe vern would get visitation rights, that way he could still love and see his horses and know that they are getting care that he can't/won't give them.
Please understand my reply is not in defense of the conditons of the horses, but I did want to let you know for your peace of mind: none of the hooves are terrible. I'm not saying they're good. Some are and some are in need of attention. I may have missed some, but I didn't see any lame. And I was out there for 9 hours!

Dr. Gray's report (which I read) was three pages and nothing that helped Mr. Trembly. She was very critical of both herd and pasture management.

The rep from Southern Winds recommended and ordered a new and better feed.

Call it luck--none of us saw any wounds, which amazed me with the amount of debris.

I hope you understand the intent behind my report. I don't want to be misconstrued as believing any of this okay. I do, however, understand the widespread concern and hope this will let you rest a bit easier on a few of the issues.
 
Yes Thank you Vicki. I'm sure a lot of things had changed between Ginny's visit and MaryKanas's visit. And both just reported what they saw. The main thing is to help the horses like was intended in the first place.
 
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Somethimes it is hard to feel justified in outrage when there isn't a bad guy. . .

Good points, good post "Dorrie & Frank". Thanks for your work on this case. I think overall everyone's heart is in the right place. I think some of the more recent posts made some of us feel defensive about prior comments made, and now we're getting bogged down into the same disagreements we were having before we saw all this wonderful progress.

A passionate group of folks exist on this forum. I'd much rather have that than the opposite! Eleven horses would not be in safe places today and multiple other horses and goats may well not have had food and water in front of them right this minute otherwise.
 
I do believe the Sheriff now. Let me explain why. I believe it was Monday when I called his office and finally got to talk to him. We did discuss the care of these horses and he told me he had cattle and did know what they need. We discussed the worm issue. He did agree with me that this has been going on for most likely a year. I implored of him "can't we atleast get the worst of the worst?" He told me that was in the works. I was told by someone on the forum NOT to belive him. I do now because it might be baby steps but, 10 are now helped and hopefully more today. As I said last night (ok really early this morning), I do think Mr Trembly should keep a few so it keeps him going. But, I hold with the oppinion that he should only have geldings and not be able to buy more, and not be able to breed. I believe this would have to be a court order. But in my oppinion that is how he should be able to keep horses.
 
I've remained silent throughout the evolution of all this, with execption to private correspondences with someone I hold near and dear. Aside from that though, I just wanted to post today primarily because I do feel that Shelia's post has a real valid point for concern and should be taken into serious consideration. Whether the condition of water provisions on the grounds there pans out to be a factor or not, I do feel it should at least be considered as a "possible FACTOR" at least somewhat. I hope it will be looked into, among any other possible environmental possiblities.

Beyond that, my prayers remain lifted for all concerned.

This is my first post here. I have been reading this with tears streaming down my face for about a week now and as this is unfolding I have to wonder, if this is a matter of pure neglect or something deeper. I think everybody on this post did a great job! I also think the people who have offered to help Mr. Trembly are doing something great too! I believe though when you go out to help you need to look closely around the property for any other reasons that may have caused these horses to become so bad off. I have heard of contaminated ponds that have killed horses before. I think some water testing should be done. If he has truely been working with the vet to find out why some of his horses are going downhill, maybe they haven't found the answer yet. I know what's like when the vet doesn't know what the problem is and they just keep telling you,"try this" and when that doesn't work they say "Well try this". I know this wouldn't explain the lack of farrier care, but if the horses had access to water and were reluctant to drink it, chosing only to drink from the fresh water provided, it could explain some of it. But of course, maybe with the droughts around the country and maybe there, he just didn't calculate how much more he was going to have to feed. I do hope everybody keeps on top of this and keeps us posted on how things progress.

Shelia
 
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Here is Mayo clinic description of Hoarding.. sound familiar? PEOPLE THIS IS A SERIOUS PROBLEM!

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/hoarding/DS00966

"Introduction

Hoarding is the excessive collection of items that seem to have limited or no value, such as newspapers or trash, along with the inability to discard them. Hoarding creates such cramped living conditions that entire rooms may be filled to capacity, and homes may be left with only narrow pathways winding through stacks of clutter. Some people also collect animals, keeping hundreds of dogs, cats or other animals in their homes, as filth and waste pile up and the animals become sick.

Hoarding, also called compulsive hoarding and compulsive hoarding syndrome, is thought to be connected to obsessive-compulsive disorder. But many aspects of hoarding remain a mystery, and researchers continue to learn about this recently recognized problem.

While some people poke fun at hoarding, it's no laughing matter. People who engage in hoarding put themselves and even neighbors in danger because of fire hazards, unsanitary conditions and even the real possibility of getting buried under an avalanche of junk. Treating compulsive hoarding sometimes proves difficult because people who hoard often don't see it as a problem. But intensive treatment can help people who hoard understand their compulsions and perhaps even live a safer and more enjoyable life.

Keeping stacks of newspapers, magazines or junk mail

Saving trash or used food containers

Cluttered living spaces

Impairment of daily activities

Procrastination

Trouble making decisions

Perfectionism

Difficulty organizing items

Forming attachments to possessions rather than people

Restricting others from touching or borrowing possessions

The homes of people who engage in compulsive hoarding usually offer telltale clues that something's wrong. Countertops, sinks, stoves, desks, stairways and virtually all other surfaces are stacked with stuff. And when there's no more room inside, the clutter may spread to the garage, vehicles and yard.

People who engage in hoarding typically collect items because they believe these items will be needed or have value in the future. They worry about not having these items on hand. They also don't want to feel as if they're wasting anything, so they save everything. For some, the piles of belongings are a source of comfort.

Hoarding animals

People who hoard animals may collect dozens or even hundreds of pets, such as cats, dogs, ferrets, rabbits, rats or other animals. They usually hoard animals that can be confined inside and concealed more easily. Because of their sheer numbers, these animals usually aren't cared for properly. Many become so ill that they die or have to be euthanized, if discovered. Veterinarians may be the first to notice signs of animal hoarding when owners seek help for a steady stream of sick or injured pets.

Treatment

Treatment of hoarding is often a challenge that comes with mixed success. For one thing, many people who hoard don't believe they need treatment. This is especially true if their possessions or animals offer comfort. And people whose animals are taken away will often quickly collect more to help fulfill emotional needs."
 
Here is Mayo clinic description of Hoarding.. sound familiar? PEOPLE THIS IS A SERIOUS PROBLEM!

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/hoarding/DS00966

"Introduction

Hoarding is the excessive collection of items that seem to have limited or no value, such as newspapers or trash, along with the inability to discard them. Hoarding creates such cramped living conditions that entire rooms may be filled to capacity, and homes may be left with only narrow pathways winding through stacks of clutter. Some people also collect animals, keeping hundreds of dogs, cats or other animals in their homes, as filth and waste pile up and the animals become sick.

Hoarding, also called compulsive hoarding and compulsive hoarding syndrome, is thought to be connected to obsessive-compulsive disorder. But many aspects of hoarding remain a mystery, and researchers continue to learn about this recently recognized problem.

While some people poke fun at hoarding, it's no laughing matter. People who engage in hoarding put themselves and even neighbors in danger because of fire hazards, unsanitary conditions and even the real possibility of getting buried under an avalanche of junk. Treating compulsive hoarding sometimes proves difficult because people who hoard often don't see it as a problem. But intensive treatment can help people who hoard understand their compulsions and perhaps even live a safer and more enjoyable life.

Keeping stacks of newspapers, magazines or junk mail

Saving trash or used food containers

Cluttered living spaces

Impairment of daily activities

Procrastination

Trouble making decisions

Perfectionism

Difficulty organizing items

Forming attachments to possessions rather than people

Restricting others from touching or borrowing possessions

The homes of people who engage in compulsive hoarding usually offer telltale clues that something's wrong. Countertops, sinks, stoves, desks, stairways and virtually all other surfaces are stacked with stuff. And when there's no more room inside, the clutter may spread to the garage, vehicles and yard.

People who engage in hoarding typically collect items because they believe these items will be needed or have value in the future. They worry about not having these items on hand. They also don't want to feel as if they're wasting anything, so they save everything. For some, the piles of belongings are a source of comfort.

Hoarding animals

People who hoard animals may collect dozens or even hundreds of pets, such as cats, dogs, ferrets, rabbits, rats or other animals. They usually hoard animals that can be confined inside and concealed more easily. Because of their sheer numbers, these animals usually aren't cared for properly. Many become so ill that they die or have to be euthanized, if discovered. Veterinarians may be the first to notice signs of animal hoarding when owners seek help for a steady stream of sick or injured pets.

Treatment

Treatment of hoarding is often a challenge that comes with mixed success. For one thing, many people who hoard don't believe they need treatment. This is especially true if their possessions or animals offer comfort. And people whose animals are taken away will often quickly collect more to help fulfill emotional needs."

Please I encourage EVERYONE to read this link.. It's Professional people who have been exposed to this for many years. Many issues they talk about are involving ANIMALS and the diseased minds of Hoarders. Which is VERY clear to me from the photos posted on this board, that Mr. Trembly can and will NOT part with anything. People may want to help, that will not happen. Mr. Trembly doesn't see anything Wrong.. because he is a typical hoarder of MANY items including living breathing animals who can not fid for themselves.

My belief with this situation,(which I have personally been involved with several hoarding of animals rescues) that the LAW needs to be involved. They are the only people who can get help for these animals, and let the mental health folks from Kansas help Mr. Trembly..

Karla Sibert

IERAL
 
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