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[BeckyG]

All in all I enjoyed the day. It was definitely worth the 8 hour drive.

I am so glad you made the drive! Sounds like you had a very effective & productive day.

I am so happy you actually Did purchase a couple!! :aktion033:

Thank You for the report and the updated pictures posted.

Now can you do just one more thing… LOL…… :bgrin

Can you make the photobucket pictures accessible??

(It is looking for a PW

)

-Becky

Edit..... I see you are already on top of the the PW thing. Thanks

 

[EMB]

Marty. love, no warm and fuzzies here.

Warm and fuzzy = complacent and that gets nothing down.

There is a LONG way to go yet- ALL those horses, maybe, just maybe bar a handful of geldings, need to be got away.

I do NOT want this happening again in the middle of winter.

I would not be happy at all if donated money went anywhere near this man- any money he gets will just go to persuade him he can keep them OK.

It is not a question of money, never has been, it is a question of care.

They were not getting it and, as soon as the spotlight is off, they will no longer get it.

They need to get right down to numbers that can fend for themselves and NOT breed.

I feel NO sympathy for this man at all. sorry all you sympathy hounds, I do not know where you get it from.

If he were living in squalor and needed help for himself and was too proud to ask I would be the first one there.

Dumb animals suffer and you can count me out of the sympathy brigade.

Sympathy hound? It's called compassion and it's called empathy.

Warm and fuzzy = people caring for other people.

As for where folks are getting "it" from, that answer is simple really. It's love and it's from the heart. Now I really am feeling sympathy. For someone who doesn't understand that very simple how and why.

Try going back and again reading the posts about the love and caring being shown towards those horses AND their owner by folks on the ground there in Uniontown, Try reading about the long term commitments to the man and his horses being made by people like Vic McMullen and his group. When all is said and done the horses that Vern Trembly keeps will probably be as loved and cared for as any animal anywhere. Furthermore, relationships are being built on many levels. Relationships that will be sustained over time by common bonds and hearts. I just can't comprehend a life where I couldn't see or understand that. I will pray that you find that place in your own heart,

Eileen

 

[sunfire]

The vets keep saying that they are blaming a lot of this on worms- has anyone taken a look at the condition of any teeth on any of these, in regards to age AND tooth condition??

A veterinarian from Kansas State University was there yesterday. I don't know if his report willl be released or not. Mr. Trembly showed me the report from Doctor Gray and it did not do him any favors. The K-State vet is absolutely the best we could have hoped for.

I agree, the KSU vet is the absolute best we couldve hoped for... the K-State equine dept is highly regarded here, with top equine specialists. If the attending vet was Dr DeWitt as was stated, he is indeed an Equine specialist, with special focus in preventive medicine programs and advanced equine dental care. He would certainly be most qualified, and tho his report will not be released, an official recommendation to downsize reflects that an accurate evaluation took place. It is too bad the worst 11 were removed before he did his assessment, especially the gelding with the infected sheath.

This deal is not going to go away. Yes, there will be follow-up. Kansas rescues will monitor it, as well as the Sheriff's department. For what they've been through, too, you can bet they don't want a repeat.

Ginny wants everyone to know that slowly but surely Mr. T is finally coming around to realize some of his errors. She thinks she has really gotten through to him but its been difficult.

...on Sunday Victor McMullens horse group moves in and she thinks possibly they will be building shelters. She said she thinks Victor can help her get more horses out. She said Victor's group will continue to moniter this whole thing in a big way, and not let it get away and out of control.

I also agree here, this has gotten so much news attention now in our area, that MANY people know where he is and he couldnt hide or 'blend in' now even if he wanted to... he will have to improve conditions for whatever size herd eventually remains with him. The news in Wichita has not just aired it once, they have had several stories and updates and aired something on every broadcast 5, 6, 7am, noon, 5, 6, 10pm for several days this week, and I think the other area markets have also. And so many local horse breeders/rescues/clubs have stepped up to offer help the horses and each other, and banded together to befriend him so as to keep trying to make progress and assist him in letting go of more. He seems to be starting to realize the extent of the change thats needed, but will no doubt take time for his mind to accept/adjust to that fact, so further progress may be slow but steady.

I certainly hope that in light of their small town being brought to the limelight, the locals themselves will claim the most responsibility and clean up their own backyard.......and maybe this situation can serve as a wake up call

Also, in relation, where can a contribution be made that will be used ONLY for the horses now being FOSTERED??? Or can something be sent directly to those people, their vet, or feed store or something??

Victor McMullens rescue group SWER is trying to coordinate the local rescue efforts here in KS. He described what they are needing and how they are coordinating feed, transport, foster homes, etc in the news story that aired on KWCH-12 news. You can see the video replay of that news story on their website. Heres the link-- KWCH.com Mini Horse Rescue by SWER - Story and Video replay

On that same site you can find a link to his rescue's website SWER rescue as well as links to CMHR and the KS Mini Horse Club. Or you can call Victor McMullen at (316) 858-3233 to see what kind of help is needed. They may be inundated with help right now, since it aired on the news here, and may have a bigger need down the road as they try to moniter and make progress over time.

I also want to mention that maybe neighbors DID call and nothing was done. sometimes I guess it takes a bazillion people calling/faxing/e-mailing everyone who they think can make a difference.

So I continue to say, GREAT JOB EVERYONE - this really would NOT have occured without you!

YES, GREAT JOB EVERYONE! I fully agree that it was the 'bazillion' calls/faxes/emails from near, far and even farther, that created enough attention to trigger action... and also get HIS attention, to convince him he DID need to make a drastic change. I think the neighbors may have noticed and tried, officials may have too, but the flood of outpouring (good or bad) was what tipped the balance, got media attention that couldnt be ignored, and helped all involved to get action taken and change accomplished.

It was the multitude of voices that helped media and officials to respond, and I agree with Vicki, please follow up with thanks to the same people you contacted. I heartily agree, GREAT JOB EVERYONE - this really would NOT have occurred without you! :aktion033:

 

[Danielle_E.]

I have a suggestion for those that have purchased the horses or the rescues that have taken some in. After watching the latest news broadcast and seeing how distraught this man is about releasing, whether by sale or by just letting them go, I think it would help Mr. Trembly very much if the caretakers of the ones that are now off site if they would keep in touch with this man and give him updates, regular updates as to the progress these horses will make. I think it would be the compassionate thing to do in this case, it would perhaps make him feel that he is still "connected" to the ones that have been his care... and it may help him see and understand why this had to happen. It might also help him to realize that he will have to part with more of them also.

Donna, I sent you a p.m. Whoever has the grey stallion that was removed yesterday, could you let me know please. I would like to help.

Thanks

 

[k9mini2]

I just realized this place is only 2 hours from me. If its ok and someone can tell me who to contact or how to get there, I could come and take some (buy them) if Mr Trembly would sell that is. I am not in KS but If Its ok I could go up today or tomorrow. (sorry there are so many posts I haven't read all)

 

[AppyLover2]

K9 - Vern isn't there today. If you want to see him wait until at least tomorrow. If people are there helping clean up he might be in an agreeable mood. I can give you directions if you tell me which direction on 54 you'll be coming from.

Danielle, all the stallions that were moved yesterday were taken by Sharon of KMHC. I'm not too sure any of us know who bought which horse (at least I don't). We were just loading them up as Vern pointed to them. I can tell you that at least 4 of them were grey (or light buckskin).

 

[k9mini2]

Hi Appylover, I would be coming from the east on hwy 54

 

[AppyLover2]

Left on 95th St. Right on Maple. Immediate left on 85thSt. Left on Limestone Road. Farm is on the left. If there hadn't been cars and trailers there yesterday I probably would have driven right past it. Watch for vehicles or the mailbox that says Tremblys Tiny Trails. There's a house across the road but don't expect to see one on his property. If you go please let us know what happens.

 

[Mona]

Yet again I am asking as no one has yet answered this...does anyone know anything about health certificates?? Will the vets now be willing to issue them on any of the remaining horses at this time, for out of state/country movement??

I am so glad the horses are getting help! And that is wonderful of all you folks down that way that will be getting together for the "work days" scheduled! GREAT TEAM WORK!!! :aktion033:

 

[Danielle_E.]

Thanks Donna, it the "white" stallion that we first saw in the pen, the first pictures posted. I will contact them and see if they can help me find who has him and I will go from there. Again, thank you.

 

[Marty]

Dani, the white stallion that was down is one of the group that went yestarday.

I think that Shadow is going to make someone a really gorgeous little mare once she gets some meat on her! She's pretty girl.

Thank you Dona for the pictures. I love the "horse knappers" lol so cute

Keep the pictures coming!

 

[Danielle_E.]

Thanks Marty. I would call but my phone bill as is, is going to be through the roof, ROFL

: . I just sent them an email asking to see about him and offering.... will let you know.

Now, I have my own stuff to look after today, a homeless cat has been dumped here and my cats don't particularly like this guy

: . I guess I will get him neutered and find him a home

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[chele]

I haven't said much, but this has been bugging me so I'll just dive right in.

This is an elderly man that has probably gotten in over his head. He must have realized this, so he decided to sell some. In his attempt to sell some the plight of his horses became public. He has been demonized, ridiculed, belittled and badgered. Through all of this he has remained civil. I commend him for that because should I ever find myself in his position I would lash out at anyone trying to force their will on me, no matter the pretense. Yes, he has starving horses. I can't condone the condition some of his horses were in. He needs help, I agree. But my question is more to the taking his horses away from him.

A lot of time, energy, and money is being put into taking the horses away. Now that he has accepted help, and is attempting to downsize, why must all/most of his horses be taken away? If so many people are willing to donate time and money to taking them, how come nobody is willing to donate time and money to allow him to keep them? Why not work on a "supervison contract" that will allow volunteers to donate their time to help Vern Trembly take care of his mini's instead of removing them all? This man sees these mini's as his life's work. Why do we have to destroy the man to save the mini's? If the mini's are well kept does it really matter by who?

Vern Trembly is not an evil man. He is not an ignorant man. He is an elderly man trying to do more than he realistically can. Why can't we all just help him? Cleaning up his lot is a great idea. Donating shelters is another. For the rescues in the area, would it be possible to use the donated money for the horses care while they stay with Vern? That way money is not sent directly to Vern so we can be sure it will be sent on horse care. (Although I have no doubt that money sent to Vern would be used towards the horses, I am afraid he might not accept it) Enlist the aid of neighbors if they are willing, make weekly visits or whatever is necessary to help Vern with his horses. I know the first knee jerk response is to take them away and put them in a safe place. Why can't we make where they are a safe place?

I implore you all to think about this a bit. The horse industry is in serious trouble. We have too many horses, the market is in serious decline, hay is expensive and we have had vast droughts. There is going to be a time when the rescues will all be full. I myself have two horses and can not have any more without overextending myself which could put my horses in jeopardy. What are we going to do when we are all in this same predicament? Shouldn't we be looking for other solutions?

 

[Marty]

Today is a new day!

Just think, a week ago these little horses had nothing and look at them now! YAY!!! :aktion033: :aktion033: :aktion033:

Yes I am beginning to feel warm and fuzzy all over because they now have hope and a future and a life. They are eating, drinking, seeing vets and farriers, let's get happy for them. :risa8: That is all any of us ever wanted.

And let's get happy for Mr. T too! He has made some new friends that are going to stick by him. He's coming along in his thinking now, even though it's slow, but hey, this is a brand new start for him too. If he was alone, he is not anymore. I said before I don't wish him any ill-will and I do feel he doesn't need all of these horses, but the ones that are left behind now have a chance at a whole new "Lil beginning"

From the words of John Lennon

"I get by with a little help from my friends, I'm going to try with a little help from my friends"

Smart man John Lennon.

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I have been MADD out of compassion for the little horses yes and I realize we are not out of the woods, but I can also see the improvements right now and for that I am so grateful to the beautiful people. One step at a time; one day at a time, all will be warm and fuzzy I can see it coming.

So today, let's all try to calm down and count the blessings we have seen going on.

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Maybe it's time for a healing for us here behind the screen.

 

[HGFarm]

Ok Mike, I jumped on here first thing this morning and am bawling. In reply to your thoughts about 'have you ever...' yes, yes and yes.

I am pleased with the way things are going and wish I could make a road trip! Keep it up you guys!!

 

[Jacquee']

What a terrific development, and it is just great to see people coming together to help the horses. And the best part is, Vern should have a bunch of new friends now who can stop by, have a cup of coffee and take a look at the horses. This is really a great start.

Someone asked about health certs and Coggins for out of state traveling. I called my vet and Brand inspector and they both tell me the horses MUST have a health cert and negative Coggins before traveling over state lines, so for anyone out of state, maybe you can work out with a local person to hold a horse for you while the blood work is being done. Here, we send blood to the lab in Amarillo and they can fax us back results in 2 or 3 days.

I don't know about the health cert for local travel - I thought someone said they do not need that for travel within KS, unless it's a special event like the State Fair or something. I would imagine that if the horse is going to a rescue home, a vet will do the health cert and Coggins for any horses going out of state.

Way to go all you rescue people - that is so tough, trying to get someone to face reality, and yet do it in a kind way so as not to alienate the person. Also, way to go Mr. Vern Trembly - you are doing the right thing for those horses, and if they could they would kiss you and thank you.

 

[Danielle_E.]

how come nobody is willing to donate time and money to allow him to keep them? Why not work on a "supervison contract" that will allow volunteers to donate their time to help Vern Trembly take care of his mini's instead of removing them all? This man sees these mini's as his life's work. Why do we have to destroy the man to save the mini's? If the mini's are well kept does it really matter by who?

Nobody should have more animals in their care then they can personally afford to pay for their feed and care. I have no problem at all with people giving of their time to help him but if you give money for the upkeep of the horses that remain in his care and, as someone already pointed out, should that financial help slowly trickle to a stop, what do you think might happen if he doesn't have the money himself to properly look after the large amount of minis still left? He needs to get his herd size down to a manageable size that HE can look after and give the basics to. I have no idea what that is but perhaps the Sheriff could sit down with him and figure that out and help him see it. Perhaps he can keep the ones still on the property now but please, he has to be able to do that part by himself. Giving of time by volunteers and neighbours, that is absolutely wonderful and I applaud it.

 

[AppyLover2]

A lot of time, energy, and money is being put into taking the horses away. Now that he has accepted help, and is attempting to downsize, why must all/most of his horses be taken away?

The fact is Chele NONE of his horses CAN be taken away. The law said so (based on the vets inspection). I'm not sure why it continues to be an issue on the board. He has simply been ordered to cut back his numbers. The only recourse we really have to getting any of them is to work WITH Vern. He may or may not be willing to give any more away. It's possible that someone (Victor maybe, as I understand he and Vern have a good rapport) may convince him to surrender more and if he can that's wonderful. If not, the only way to get them is to buy them.

 

[Buckskin gal]

Mona, Just a suggestion ...maybe you could contact DR, Gray[i think that was her name] and ask her if she would now issue a health certificate and coggins...may make a difference if she knows they are going to be cared for. I think as long as they don't have snot noses, outside parasites m[anything visible] you might stand a chnce of getting a health certifcate. Mary

Yet again I am asking as no one has yet answered this...does anyone know anything about health certificates?? Will the vets now be willing to issue them on any of the remaining horses at this time, for out of state/country movement??

I am so glad the horses are getting help! And that is wonderful of all you folks down that way that will be getting together for the "work days" scheduled! GREAT TEAM WORK!!! :aktion033:

 

[Lisa-Ruff N Tuff Minis]

A lot of time, energy, and money is being put into taking the horses away. Now that he has accepted help, and is attempting to downsize, why must all/most of his horses be taken away?

The fact is no one is taking his horses away from him he is SELLING THEM and that is exactly how all of this started him selling his horses and he is now doing so thanks to the kindess of strangers. So in that respect he is doing what he wanted to do only under more scrutiny then of course he ever thought about or planned.