Again, I am confused....

[luv2ridesaddleseat]

She's getting there!! I can't wait to see this baby!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Bunnylady]

Bonny looks roan to me.

I, too, choose batchelor #1. Although I'm surprised, considering the shape she was in at the time.

 

[shelly]

Do roans have a dorsal stripe-cause I definitely see a dorsal stripe

That's why I went with a grullo! Maybe Zebra dun? Or do Duns NOT have the dorsal?

I'm sooooooo confused by colors OH! OH!

 

[Bunnylady]

Do roans have a dorsal stripe-cause I definitely see a dorsal stripe

That's why I went with a grullo! Maybe Zebra dun? Or do Duns NOT have the dorsal?

I'm sooooooo confused by colors OH! OH!

I think Bonny has what they call "countershading." And yes, duns have the dorsal stripes, sometimes a lot of other stripes, too!

 

[shelly]

Do roans have a dorsal stripe-cause I definitely see a dorsal stripe

That's why I went with a grullo! Maybe Zebra dun? Or do Duns NOT have the dorsal?

I'm sooooooo confused by colors OH! OH!

I guess what I was looking for was BUCKSKIN not DUN OH!

 

[Bunnylady]

Do roans have a dorsal stripe-cause I definitely see a dorsal stripe

That's why I went with a grullo! Maybe Zebra dun? Or do Duns NOT have the dorsal?

I'm sooooooo confused by colors OH! OH!

I guess what I was looking for was BUCKSKIN not DUN OH!

Buckskins may or may not have dorsal stripes. Buckskin is a dilute color. If the cause of the dilution is the Dun factor, there most likely will be a dorsal stripe. If the animal is a dilute because it has the cream gene, there may not be a dorsal stripe.

 

[luv2ridesaddleseat]

Sheesh! I thought Duns had the dorsal stripe and Buckskins do not!

I GIVE UP :arg!

 

[Ashley]

Color wise on Bonnie.....She is greying. Her tail is a tell tail sign of that. If she was a roan it would be black, but being its half white, thats a good clue at being grey.

As for base color I am going to get bay(have seen a few of these as well as own one).

Do you know the colors of her parents?

Regular buckskins do not have dorsels. IF they do they are considered a buckskin dun.

 

[Bunnylady]

Okay, my turn to get confused. I thought horses that are genetic grays usually show the graying on the face, first. Bonny's face is dark, that's supposed to indicate roan,right?

 

[Bonny]

Like Ashley, I agree she has tell tale signs of gray, but yes roans do have darker heads, thats why I think she is a bay roan going gray. Although we will never know for sure about her roan because she has no papers, no one to ask. Although her last owner told me she was roan.

She has all the bay points, her legs now also have roan on them, or graying.

 

[Bonny]

Ok so here is an update. I dont know if it means anything or not but Bonnys vulva was puffy the other day and this am it is really soft and sunk in looking. I have an old pic from April to compare to. So all yall that know what relaxing vulvas look like please take a peek and give me your opinion.

Also today she has had very loose poo.

Please take a look at these pics.

4-15-08

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x12/479.../4-15-08025.jpg

7-16-08

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x12/479.../4-15-08025.jpg

Today:

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x12/479...-17-08098-1.jpg

And a pic not quite as important. The red circle is ribs but the green is a mystery to me!

 

[Magic]

Looks like the foal is leaning up against the side of Momma, lol!

I bet it feels GREAT to finally *KNOW* that she is in foal huh?

 

[Ashley]

Most of the time you do get the grey on the head first. Typically you will see goggles on the eyes. HOwever not all show that. I had a black colt one year that didnt start showing his grey until a yearling and it was "sabino looking" on his body, not head.

 

[Ashley]

Hopefully Bonny dont mind me reposting this pic. So if you look at her head, it is not solid. You can see the grey on her ears and her jaw. If she were a roan more of that would be dark. Also if you look at her straight shots you can see the grey on her forhead. The only solid she has on her head is down the bridge of her face.

She could of been a roan, but alot of people sell greys as roans to try and decive the buyer as greys dont sell good normally.

If you go to Lewellas pony page you can see examples of roans

http://www.platteridgefarm.com/mare3.html

 

[Bunnylady]

Gee thanks, Ashley. Get me drooling over a bunch of Shetlands!

Actually, I hadn't gotten to see Bonny so "up close and personal." On my computer, the pics have been a little smaller than a postcard. I agree, there are a lot more white hairs on her face than is typical for roans. With that dark down the middle of her face, she looks a bit more like the varnish roans I've seen come up in Appy discussions (and no, I'm not suggesting she's an Appy.) Do minis do varnish roan?

 

[Bonny]

Anyone have a comment about this Please???

Ok so here is an update. I dont know if it means anything or not but Bonnys vulva was puffy the other day and this am it is really soft and sunk in looking. I have an old pic from April to compare to. So all yall that know what relaxing vulvas look like please take a peek and give me your opinion.

Also today she has had very loose poo.

Please take a look at these pics.

4-15-08

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x12/479.../4-15-08025.jpg

7-16-08

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x12/479.../4-15-08025.jpg

Today:

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x12/479...-17-08098-1.jpg

And a pic not quite as important. The red circle is ribs but the green is a mystery to me!

[SIZE=14pt] [/SIZE]

 

[luv2ridesaddleseat]

Wish I could help, Bonny. I have no idea.

But I'm thinking of you, of course!

Cookie was bred again this morning!

 

[h2t99]

Looks promising!!! There is definately a difference. I would watch her. Good Luck!!

 

[shelly]

Bonny, that pic of the bulges is red-ribs and green-baby moving around! How is she today?

I will be out all day but will check back in tonight!!! Good luck...Shelly

 

[CrescentMinis]

Just wanted to add that I am enjoying watching the Bonny developments and I think this thread is great for those of us new to foaling (I also have a mare here I purchased in foal, who was pasture bred and I have been watching her FORRREEEEVVVVVVVEEEERRRR now!).

She definitely looks a lot different in the vulva pic from last night.