Again, I am confused....

[CrescentMinis]

Let's foal already Bonny, I feel your mom's pain!

I keep checking in on your latest posts because I'm in a similar boat. I have all but given up on the one I've been watching since March (seller gave me written "due date" as March 14th, later told me mare had been with stallion till I picked her up last September! After deciding she's definitely not pregnant, I walked straight toward her yesterday standing square in the field, and for the first time I've seen, she was flat on one side and wide load on the other. Does fat shift like that, ever???? So for now I will continue to put the equipage on her at night, but everyone here thinks I need to forget it.

 

[cretahillsgal]

Bonny, I have been following this thread since it started. I feel your pain and wish that I could give you answers. But I am in the same boat as you with two mares.

One I am sure is preggers but according to the breeder should have foaled at the end of June. The other one I will think is fixing to foal anytime and then the next day I wonder to myself if she is even preggers. And I don't even have anyone in my area that will do ultrasounds! UGGHH!

I swear they laugh at me everyday when I go to check them.

 

[Bonny]

CrescentMinis & cretahillsgal thanks yall. It stinks royally doesnt it! I am sorry yall are in the same boat as I am.

((( GROUP HUGS!! )))

Some days Bonny doesnt even look pregnant either, although last week we saw a sac and fetal membranes. I know she is pregnant, that much I do believe, I just dont know how far along. I could be watching her through the end of November. If she doesnt foal by then I have January to wait. If not by January, I guess she wont foal.

Yall please keep me posted!! Please PM me if something changes with one of your mares and I somehow miss the topic!!

 

[Bonny]

Well, dont know what this all means, but Bonny has shrunk in belly size by 2 inches at the widest point. She looks narrower and not lower.

Maybe that means the foal is in position? Maybe not? Any thoughts?

these are from yesterday.

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x12/479...e/8-9-08017.jpg

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x12/479...e/8-9-08027.jpg

this was from the 7th

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x12/479...e/8-7-08039.jpg

the 2nd

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x12/479...of8-2-08014.jpg

and the 17th of July

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x12/479...f7-17-08079.jpg

Yesterday:

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x12/479...8-9-08034-1.jpg

July 27th

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x12/479...-27-08020-1.jpg

 

[shelly]

This horse has be baffled...she does look like her belly is shrinking and that could be from the foal moving into position or it could be that she is not preggo and loosing weight! I hope you get that urine analysis back soon so we will finally know for sure!!!!!!!!!

 

[lyn_j]

I think it may mean that she is resorbing the fluid and membranes and shrinking. She doesnt look as pregnant to me anymore. This is what Bailey did. Carbon actually had a false labor and a phantom foal.

As far as the wee foal, it could have been positive because she had a corpus luteum that was giving off the hormones of pregnancy rather than a placenta giving them off.

I just dont know. I think we are all just guessing now.

Lyn

 

[Bonny]

Thanks yall. I know yall want to help, other than just waiting and seeing what happens I dont know what else to do. I am sending off the urine sample tomorrow, hopefully we will have some answers.

Now tonight she isnt as wide but seems fuller again and lower again. She has very minimal udder but I was able to get a small squirt out tonight. Usually its pretty hard to get a drop. I dont know what to think at this point. I have been up and down with this mare since January. I am tired and frustrated. I feel like I have done everything humanly possible to determine what is going on. If I see her pass anything,should I have the vet out to flush her ?

Anyways here are pics from tonight. Maybe I just am wishing to think she looks bigger again. IDK. What do yall think?

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x12/479.../8-10-08010.jpg

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x12/479.../8-10-08013.jpg

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x12/479.../8-10-08014.jpg

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x12/479.../8-10-08001.jpg

 

[CrescentMinis]

I don't know either! She sure has the PG belly back, maybe the foal has turned and moved into a new position, like you mentioned. It is maddening isn't it! All we can do is watch and wait.

My big-horse neighbor was over today and looked at my mystery mare and pronounced her "extremely fat"! She is hoping there's a foal soon as it would be the easiest solution. To her, Annie was looking quite uncomfortable. Same way she's looked for a long time now! I've attempted to reduce her chubby belly in every known way and it's not happening.

 

[Bonny]

Cresent, I hope all goes well for you. Thanks for everything.

Last night Bonny was restless but nothing.I am sending off her urine sample today. She was so sweet to comply to 'go' after only 5 minutes of waiting this am! Too bad her foal watch isnt that easy!

I will let yall know what the results are!

 

[LisaF.]

Bonny,

I see a mare getting ready to foal. In a couple of the pictures it looks like she may have a milk vein - does she?

Also, did you get the picture I sent you - where I used Paint and I looked like a Kindergartner?

When will you get your urine test results back?

I would defiently order the test from Mother Natures. I think it is very accurate.

Has she been biting at her sides or stretching her legs? Anything different at all?

Gosh, Lyn after reading your post that is scary for me. I have never went through that and I hope I never do.

 

[Bonny]

There really isnt much new to tell. I slept very sound last night so cant report any behavior, but the night before she was restless, she moved stuff around her stall, drug all the hay out of her bin and it was all over the ground. She was up and down a lot, enough so that I wondered ' hmmm what is she doing'. But then she settled down and slept.

She sleeps on the ground a lot. she likes to lay flat a lot.

Today upon morning inspection she seemed fuller in her vulva, not so much tighter but fuller even inside, which is still pinkish not red and not pale like it used to be.

And out of sheer desperation for a clue on what is going on here, I did taste her 'milk'. OH! I was expecting a salty taste and was surprised that it had no taste at all.

Tomorrow will be exactly 6 weeks from when I noticed her udder starting to develop. Her udder is still minimal, much smaller than before but still has a tissue formation of an udder inside the flab.

She was also grouchy again this am, wanted her breakfast and she is preg looking again.

Thanks again to those that keep trying to help me. Yall are the best!

 

[Bonny]

Sorry meant to add pics...

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x12/479.../8-12-08018.jpg

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x12/479.../8-12-08016.jpg

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x12/479.../8-12-08009.jpg

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x12/479.../8-12-08007.jpg

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x12/479.../8-12-08004.jpg

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x12/479.../8-12-08026.jpg

 

[muffntuf]

Bonny,

You may still have a few weeks. My mare Carnation did this to me for 3 months. Restless for much of it. Had a bag for 8 wks, the last final week she really poured on the milk and filled her bag. And grouchy of and on.

I didn't want to go through all the thread, when was she supposedly bred?

 

[Bonny]

Muffntuf- she was pastured with this stally from ?- Dec 29th of 2007.

Then after being told she wasnt in foal I pastured her from feb 6 - 15 2008.

She is maiden also.

Thanks for replying!

 

[New2Minis]

Bonny dont feel bad, my mare hasnt foaled yet either. AND I KNOW she is preggers!!! Any day now would be nice, I told her yesterday just to keep the baby that I didnt want to see it. Hopin that would get her going....but nothing!!

 

[Bonny]

LOL!!!

I told Bonny I was worn out and needed sleep. She didnt care.

 

[LisaF.]

Bonny - You are getting the hang of it now. I talk to my mares also - I don't think they care...lol

Ok - Bonny - You learn something every day.

I have never heard of tasting the milk - What does that tell you? Just curios...LOL.

Remember Sunrise that made a change and then for the last about 4 weeks just stopped - well, I finially seen another change yesturday finially. I will try to get pictures again for you.

I think you skipped my question in my last post - Did you receive the picture of Bonnie that I tried to draw on? If not, I will try to resend it.

Oh, and I love Bonnie's tail - how it is black on top and then goes to white - it is so pretty.

 

[Reijel's Mom]

Here is a little more detailed info on tasting mare's milk:

http://www.ceoates.com/info/Mare_Milk.html

 

[Bonny]

Lisa, I got one picture but not sure if you sent more than one, sorry I forgot to answer you.

What was the change btw?

Thanks for the link RM!!

 

[LisaF.]

See you learn something new everyday...I had never heard of tasting the mares milk. You are brave Bonnie. Reijels Mom - thanks for posting that link.

Bonny - the picture had blue lines - just showing why I thought she was in foal and what her hip should start changing too.

That is ok - I skip questions by accident everyday.