Any further research on lacing pattern?

[MiniHoofBeats]

Last I heard no one knows why or how "lacing" patterns come about or what pattern to categorize it in...any further research on it? I still wonder what its purpose is, if any, and if it is reproducable or what...lol...

 

[jdhand]

Yes it is reproducible. I have a mare with lacing and her filly that was born this year is starting to get lacing. Her other filly she had is a leopard spot app, sorrell and white. The sire is the same a leopard app stallion.

 

[MiniHoofBeats]

I thought it was often questioned if lacing was an appy pattern...

that's interesting to know it can be reproduced, it still baffles me though what lacing really is/does!

 

[Miniv]

Yes, it is genetic........as offspring of a horse that has it will usually also develop it. It doesn't show at birth but DEVELOPS.

And no, it is not an appy characteristic. The horses we have here that have Lacing have NO APPY in their pedigree.......however, they DO have PINTO.

MA

 

[Lewella]

The latest school of thought is that it may be associated with sabino. It occurs in Shetlands too and we have no appy........ I've also seen examples in many other breeds that also do not have appy.

 

[Miniv]

The latest school of thought is that it may be associated with sabino. It occurs in Shetlands too and we have no appy........ I've also seen examples in many other breeds that also do not have appy.

Ahhh....now that makes sense. That sneekie Sabino coloring!

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MA

 

[jleonard]

If you do a search on lacing or giraff markings, there are some good sites out there. From what I have learned it is thought to be associated with either pinto or appy, they had not determined which. I don't know how recent that info was though. I have one who is developing it and she has pintaloosa breeding, so don't know which it is coming from!

 

[Charlotte]

Cowboy's mother had lacing, but none of her foals ever developed it as far as I know. I bought a 3 year old mare a few years ago....blue eyed tovero. she had no lacing. Now she is heavily laced!. Also, we have had 3 or 4 foals from a show client. They arrive here at about 6 months of age. By the time they left they all had quite a bit of lacing coming in. They are 'solid' horses.

I think the pattern is fascinating and I hope they eventually get the genetics of it figured out.

Charlotte

 

[REO]

I have come to the thought, judging from my own horses, that lacing does come from Sabino.

Many of my horses are Sabino (in addition to other patterns) and only those that have Sabino also have lacing. My mare Rose is real getting more pronounced lace now. My mare Kate has some lacing. And some others as well.

I think it's kind of cool!

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[Becky]

I bought a solid black mare this fall with extensive lacing on her back. She has no other white markings whatsoever. I have no idea whether she had previous foals that developed lacing, but it will be interesting to see what develops in her foals. It looks really neat like she has a spider web on her back!

You might want to check out the Yahoo lacing group here. http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/lacing_color/

 

[MiniHoofBeats]

Thanks everyone for answering, I think it would make sense to be a sabino characteristic! But again, some research points it to appy, some points it to pinto, some disregards both...I too think lacing is purely fascinating, it's such a unique pattern and to me it's beautiful =) I will check out the yahoo group! Thanks!

Charlotte, that is neat to know Cowboy's dam had lacing! Now are you speaking of your Cowboy, or mine? LOL!

 

[Lewella]

Since lacing is common in breeds that DO NOT have appy genetics (such as the Shetland) I don't see how it could be connected to the leopard complex.

 

[Miniv]

Since lacing is common in breeds that DO NOT have appy genetics (such as the Shetland) I don't see how it could be connected to the leopard complex.

Agreed, Lewella.

 

[hhpminis]

I have had 2 mares with lacing and both of them threw a high percentage of pinto even when bred to solid. Both had high socks as well and no other wihite on them. It is a fascinating color pattern to me.

People often argue that it is rain rot or some other origin but it defintely runs in certain lines and is not a result of fungus in these cases.

Would love to know what gene causes it.

I wonder if it is believed to be an appy trait as it appears later in life rather than at birth??? I do not believe it is an appy trait though as both my mares had no appy background to my knowledge or according to their pedigree.

 

[rabbitsfizz]

I thought it was generally accepted that, for want of any proof otherwise, Lacing was attached to Sabino??

I agree with Lewella- she is usually right anyway!!

 

[Becky]

I hadn't heard of lacing being related to sabino before. That is interesting. My visual sabino horses (white faces, leg white) show no lacing patterns, but my new solid black mare does. And she has no other body white whatsoever. Hopefully, I will know late next year if she passes it on!

 

[Sharron]

I am curious, does the lacing pattern only appear on the backs or on other parts of the body? As the saying goes "inquiring minds want to know"... Thanks for any input. I have seen the lacing on backs, and was wondering where else it occurred, or IF it "can" occur anywhere else on the bodies.

Sharron

 

[miniwhinny]

think if it's showing up in apps it's from another gene doing it. I have two horses with lacing in their families. Neither have appy anywhere. In "MiniV Raider's Princess Elizabeth" is a bay with a pinto grandsire (Bond Showboy) my other "MiniV Midnights Last Dance" is a strange color, possibly bay more likely brown with brindle stripes all over (which multiply each year) they are 3 and 2 years old. Neither has lacing yet but I'm sure hoping they get it. I especially hope my colt gets it...so cool to have brindle and lacing.

 

[Bess Kelly]

I think lacing is neat

: It seems to usually happen/develop as they mature -- so do many of the sabino markings, or additional spread of makings

: OK, it's a "work in progress" type pattern :lol:

Let's just say that some of these colorations are challenging

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[mistyrose]

A similar pattern can be the result of a bad fungus on the back. The difference is that lacing starts small and spreads. The pattern from fungus shows up when the hair comes back and the fungus is gone. It doesn't change.

I think its strange that the yahoo group on lacing has a picture of a leopard on the site instead of a lacing pattern on a back. Maybe if someone has a lacing photo they could send it to them. LOL