Buckskin or Dun

[debbiesshelties]

Hi guys,

How do you tell the them apart? The gentleman I bought my little guy from called him a buckskin, but he has a very pronounced dorsal strip down his back. His face and legs are much darker. I would show pictures but he is such a chubby little buddy you guys would laugh me off the forum. Actually he has slimmed down since I have had him but he has quite a bit more to go.

Thanks for the input,

Debbie

 

[rabbitsfizz]

No laughs here, not even a snigger- bet mine are all fatter!!! He sounds like a Dun, but without pics or pedigree it's hard to tell. Buckskins can have a dorsal stripe (were there a test fro Dun they would probably turn out to be Dunskins) but Duns MUST have a dorsal. If you were really interested you could test him for Cream- it being present would make him a Buckskin or a Dunskin. Costs only $25.00

 

[Jill]

I agree, sounds like a dun, or a buckskin dun to me... since dun can come in all colors. I have a silver buckskin dun, a bay dun, a light silver bay dun (looks palomino / dunalino) and a grey grullo. I love any horse that much better with a stripe

 

[Abby]

I'm confused by this too.

I have a mare, her papers say palomino. But she has mixed mane and tail, dark legs, ear tips and muzzle and a dorsal stripe.

Her papers say her sire was a buckskin pinto and dam was a palomino.........So

what the heck is she??

Lee

 

[Jill]

Lee, from what you describe, she sounds like a silver buckskin dun to me!

 

[Lisa-Ruff N Tuff Minis]

There are some varied opinions -but here anyway.. according to there own sites a dun must have.. leg barring, or cobwebbing on the face., primitave markings. a dorsal stripe alone doesnt make a dun - some horses and colors just have countershading or even true dorsals with no dun anywhere in the background.

I love a true dun one of my favorite colors I just love the leg barring and the cobwebbing on the face is so pretty

 

[debbiesshelties]

Me again,

Cobwebbing was the term I was trying to think of. I am sure that is what my little Hercules has. I will try to post pictures latter. His dorsal never fades or hides.

He is just my little gelding buddy not show( I think he was shown when younger).

Debbie

 

[rockin r]

HI...

Here is my Buckskin... Shooter..4 months old. Had him tested and he has the cream . As you can see he has a definate black dorsal stripe, that does not fad. So does his Dam. His Sire is a Silver Bay...or so the papers say..

After I clipped his baby coat off, his legs are now black.

Shooter

His Sire

 

[Meavey]

I agree, sounds like a dun, or a buckskin dun to me... since dun can come in all colors.  I have a silver buckskin dun, a bay dun, a light silver bay dun (looks palomino / dunalino) and a grey grullo.  I love any horse that much better with a stripe

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Please be carefull a bay + dun = a normal "dun" or bay-dun

A bay + cream = a buckskin

A bay + cream+ dun is a dunskin.

 

[rabbitsfizz]

Lisa- as soon as one of my Duns has cobwebbing on the face or stripes on it's legs I will be sure to tell you first!! Until then I will just go by what I know- darker head and points, pronounced dorsal stripe, and the fact that the Dun dilute has been inherited through eight generations in a straight line, as of now!!

And I do not give a hoot what the Dun Society has to say on the subject either- there is no "Dun" Society over here, but there are plenty of Duns and Buckskins

 

[debbiesshelties]

Here is my little buddy.

Here, in the lower right, you can see his dorsal stripe.

I told you he was chubby!

Here he is, enjoying a little grass!

 

[Jean_B]

This is directly from the ABRA site:

Eligible Color Requirements

BUCKSKIN: Body coat some shade of tan, from very light (creme) to very dark (bronze). Points (mane, tail, legs and ear frames) are black or dark brown. Dorsal not required.

DUN: Body coat some shade of tan, from very light (creme) to a dull or smutty brown (earth tone). Points, dorsal stripe and other dun factor markings are dirty black or smutty brown. There are many shades and variations in the dun color. Dorsal stripe required. Note: The buckskin colored horse with dun factor (dorsal stripe, leg barring, ear frames, shoulder stripes, face masking and cobwebbing) is the ideal color that ABRA was founded to preserve over thirty years ago.

RED DUN: Body coat a reddish tan without the range of shades as seen in the other dun colors. Mane and tail are red or reddish brown, creme or mixed. The dun factor markings are red or reddish brown. A full, definite dorsal stripe must run the length of the tail.

GRULLA: (Grew-ya) A Grulla's body coat is slate colored (bluish gray as the blue heron) from light blue gray to a brown-ish shade. Points and dun factor markings are black. A dorsal stripe is required. The Grulla color is the rarest of all horse body coat colors. The word Grulla is Spanish and translates into English as “craneâ€.

Now... all of Vegas' registration papers call him a "Dun" because he has: 1) dorsal; 2) face webbing; 3) black legs; 4) zebra striping on all legs; 5) shoulder barring; 6) ear frames; 7) black mane & tail

Here is the old boy- taken 3 years ago when he was 21

 

[Lisa-Ruff N Tuff Minis]

Hmmm now Jean why is it i look worse with age and he seems to look amazing?

And yes to me he shows what a true dun must be (IMO) he has all the primitive markings - A true dun is such a pretty color I know fourm member Stephanie has a beautiful red dun as well. but vegas well she should be in the book that describes what a dun is