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I don't drive at dusk around here, the Bear or Cougar would think Maggie a yummy treat.
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When I lived in NH, one of the Cart shops I used to go to... carried bright battery powered red break lights for the backs of carts, just like you see on cars, with their breaks on. Makes me wonder if they are still made?

I do know they still make the side lanterns for carriages. They were spendy.

Think something like the Parson's rump for my Cart, would help, specially at a distance, plus my tractor sized SMV. Orange vest and orange helmet cover.

(all my horses are trained to weird sounds, with all kinds of things, so one more weird noise to them is just me... being me again. LOL )

Hmmm... a bright International Orange harness is beginning to sound good.
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The photos that were taken of the Parson were on cloudy, rather dark days.
 
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Be careful with the bicycle flag that you train your horse to it. I have a story on my website of someone who did not do that and the first time the flag whipped in the wind, the horse hit the ditch. Same goes for SMV signs that flip around.

Myrna

Great tip Myrna, I was already thinking if I got a flag, I would hook it to the fence over the feed tubs for awhile first. My boy isn't blinkered, so it could set him in a tizzy if he caught that out of the corner of his eye.. I was wondering if it would fit in the whip holder? Where do people put all this stuff? I don't want sticky goo all over my cart using adhesive, do the LED lights come with straps? I wonder if you could find some reflective tape to velcro wrap to around the pipe across the back of the cart seat, brain storming here, I haven't done anything to mine yet, but want to start forming up some creative ideas so I can go to the other side of our farm to drive this winter after the crops are off. It would require me to cross the road and go a little bit on the road... they drive too fast here, but I am using the mower to clear some places to cross where I would have some decent visibility for a distance.
 
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omg! glad there was a good ending to the story and no one was hurt. Thanks everyone for the wonderful advice given
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. I would have to drive on the road right now if we went off the property. I think that is why I am basicly still in training.
 
My battery led light is magnetic. YOu get them at a farm store or order from Gemplers. It attaches to the backrest bar. It either flashes or is steady. I usually use the flasher. It is made for farm implements, so the magnet is very strong. I've never had it fall off. Cost is about $27.

The bicycle flag--a neighbor welded a flag holder onto the back of my cart for parades. I put the bicycle flag in that. I think you could attach it with zip ties, however. I dont' think it would go in a whip holder very well.

I'm not going to stop driving just because something "might" happen. It is part of my life.
 
I agree with Myrna about training to the sight and odd whipping sound of the bicycle flag. Those things make the weirdest noises in a high wind!
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shorthorsemom said:
Hey Leia, can you tell me where on your cart you put the blinking LED lights, back, front, side, combination of all three?
A few Amish around here have started putting all sorts of lights and reflectors ALL OVER their buggies. I saw one that we saw coming down the road and we said "what the heck is that?????" It was flashing, it was reflecting and it looked like a square jukebox coming down the road. I was stunned when it turned out to be an amish buggy in the dark. Made me think of what I can do to make them say "what the heck is that", if I ever venture out on the road.
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You've nailed it- I put them anywhere I can in order to make those drivers go "What the..." and slow down! There's nothing quite like being unidentifiable to get someone's attention.
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If I had enough of the flashers I'd put some light ones down on Kody's ankles as I think the movement would look freaky just like those bicycle pedal flashers do. We could start a new trend...being an "UBO." Unpredictable Blinking Object!
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I've been meaning for years to get a picture of Kody and I in every scrap of reflective gear we own so maybe I'll try to do that soon. It would be fun to share as I've got quite a lot at this point.

One thing I do try to do is keep those LED's out of my horse's eyes at night time. Red isn't too bad in general but LED's are bright and can damage your eyesight as well as simply messing with the horse's night vision and my goal isn't to handicap the horse, just to have the cars see us. I'd like to have a steady light on each side of his neckstrap, a flashing one on each rear corner of the cart, and maybe one facing forward up on my helmet. Then reflective gear everywhere else!

shorthorsemom said:
Where do people put all this stuff? I don't want sticky goo all over my cart using adhesive, do the LED lights come with straps? I wonder if you could find some reflective tape to velcro wrap to around the pipe across the back of the cart seat, brain storming here,
No goo necessary. I get my flashers at bike shops so they all come on stretchy straps or clamps meant for metal tubing. Zip ties would also work fine and I LOVE Marsha's idea of magnets! (Thanks, Marsha.
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) When I first went to the National Drive in 2007, Iowa Valley Carriage had a set of reflective stuff meant for big horses that she was selling as carriage reflectors. Most vet catalogues for instance carry those reflective neoprene tail wraps for riding? Those work GREAT on shafts! I bought a set of big horse bridle reflectors the next year which for minis fit nicely around harness straps and on the browband.

My best find has been a set of those snap bracelets for wrists made in a reflective material for runners. I got my first two way cheap at Walmart and haven't been able to find them since but just recently I saw them at Fred Meyer and snapped up enough to do all four legs on both horses. They were pricier there ($5.99 for a set of two) but I learned my lesson and wasn't about to miss out because they cost more! Those are AWESOME as they go on really quick and easy, the underside is lined with soft velveteen cloth, and they contract down to fit tiny mini legs far better than anything else I've found. Turbo proved that horses can kick them off if they really try but Kody's have stayed on well for years and they're really visible as they're on a moving part of the horse.

Leia
 
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Great information Leia...

I wonder if you can buy glow sticks in bulk .... LOL, I know of some big horse people that put on glo sticks and glo necklaces for special night rides.
 
Some neat ideas, I've often wondered what others used...

" do know they still make the side lanterns for carriages. They were spendy."

I wonder if the battery operated lanterns would work? That is, if you don't need authentic... They put out quite a bit of light - I really like mine for camping siturations.
 
Some neat ideas, I've often wondered what others used...

" do know they still make the side lanterns for carriages. They were spendy."

I wonder if the battery operated lanterns would work? That is, if you don't need authentic... They put out quite a bit of light - I really like mine for camping siturations.
We tried those in a night parade. I don't know about all of them, but the ones we used couldn't hold up to the jolting. They wouldn't be much use in the daytime anyway.

IMO reflective gear is the best for daytime driving. We are used to seeing it on highway workers; it is a mental signal for drivers to watch out.

As an aside, I am thinking it shoudl be part of driver training for young folks to go for a mile hike along a busy road. It would give them some sensitivity to pedestrians. Many people never walk anywhere any more and have no clue about pedestrians. Bicycles enrage them and anything slower than they are "has no business on the road".

I should get a reflective sign made that says "share the road-my tax dollars are at work too".
 
Carriage lamps ("aka side lanterns") do not give off enough light to be effective. They were designed to give off enough light to light your way and let others know you were there, but everybody was also pretty much moving at the same pace, not 60 mph vs. 5-10. And yes, they are pricey. Most people that have them ONLY use them for show. (I haven't been able to find any small enough to be in scale with my vehicle, and there aren't too many mini classes where you would need them to be competitive anyway (maybe Walnut HIll, but they aren't going to pick a VSE for Concours anyway....
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). Maybe we can get lamps for our new pony!
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Driving Digest sells a sign that reads, "Please Pass Wide and Slow" that you attach to the backside of your vehicle.

Myrna
 
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Hey, I saw a cool night driving set-up on an amish buggy driving on the road last night.

His buggy had reflectors and flashers all over it and lights like described in the earlier post, but what caught my attention and made me say "oh my" LOOK at that, was that he had put reflectors on every spoke of the wheels at the bottom where the spoke meets the outer wheel part.

What it looked like to me driving was an incredible lighted ferris wheel sort of thing as those reflectors were lighted and were spinning when my car lights illuminated the reflectors. It was a very cool effect too. Thought I would share this as a tip. Not sure how they were put on, if they were tape put around the wheel spokes or screwed on little things. They were not huge , but when you light them all up it was pretty cool looking spinning while the guy was traveling on the road at 11 pm.
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