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Can anyone tell me how the Classic Sweepstakes works??????? When does the auction take place etc???
Classic Sweepstakes???????
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Rob,
I would like to know too!
I would like to know too!
Hi Rob,
Jason Prince is the chairman of the Classic Sweepstakes. He will need a copy of your stallions papers and a check for $200.00. He will send you some paperwork to pull hairs for the DNA test on the Stallion and Mare.
The Sweepstakes Auction is held at Congress during the show. Bids are taken from the floor. If your horse's breeding doesn't sell then you can buy it back and have two (2) Sweepstakes babies. I put my stallion, Pan's Silver Image in the Sweepstakes last year for the 2007 Sweepstakes. Our Sweepstakes baby is due around the first of March.
This program is good but it too is having problems with people not bidding just like the AMHR Stallion Service Auction which was put on hold a couple of years back. If we don't get more people involved with this program we might loose this one as well.
Jason Prince Ph # 815-426-2437
Karen
Jason Prince is the chairman of the Classic Sweepstakes. He will need a copy of your stallions papers and a check for $200.00. He will send you some paperwork to pull hairs for the DNA test on the Stallion and Mare.
The Sweepstakes Auction is held at Congress during the show. Bids are taken from the floor. If your horse's breeding doesn't sell then you can buy it back and have two (2) Sweepstakes babies. I put my stallion, Pan's Silver Image in the Sweepstakes last year for the 2007 Sweepstakes. Our Sweepstakes baby is due around the first of March.
This program is good but it too is having problems with people not bidding just like the AMHR Stallion Service Auction which was put on hold a couple of years back. If we don't get more people involved with this program we might loose this one as well.
Jason Prince Ph # 815-426-2437
Karen
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I'll apologize right from the start that this is kind of a negative post - but I have some strong feelings about this.
I participated in the Classic Sweepstakes for several years - and would have continued to participate - but IN MY OPINION communications were so poor, that I could just not see spending that much money any longer.
I felt like I had to BEG for information. One year my checks were not cashed. My checks are issued directly from my on-line bank and they automatically void the check and notify me if a check is not cashed in 90 days. The next payment was made on a credit card, but they didn't charge it until months later. I keep very limited credit line on that particular card, and when they finally did charge it, it over extended my credit line and cost me a fee. A few years ago, someone who contacted me that they were interested in bidding on my stallion couldn't do so because of miscommunications about the bidding time. I would have had to buy both breedings myself to participate and since I didn't have 2 ASPC mares at the time, I had to drop out.
I nominated my stallion in 2005 for the 2006 Sweepstakes and when I didn't recieve the information packet for nominating my mare, I started making calls. Found out that it had changed hands and I was never notified. I called the ASPC office and they didn't even seem to know what the Sweepstakes was! They kept trying to point me to the people who run the futurities and were pretty rude when I kept insisting that I didn't need to talk to someone about futurities. I had to give them a rather lengthy explanation of what the Sweepstakes is, how it differs from the futurities, who used to manage it, etc etc etc. They still didn't really seem to understand what I was talking about. They also didn't know who was running it and didn't seem particularly interested in getting me the information. I was told to contact my Area rep!
Finally I tracked down the phone number and called - I admit I was a bit rude to poor Jason by this time and I know this all was not his fault! I did get the info not too long afterwards, but by then the deadline for nominating a mare had passed and I had had enough. I decided I was finished with the sweepstakes. Nominating fee down the drain.
And... by the way ... I DID offer to help with the program one of my first years when some issues first came up - you know, be part of the solution and all that. I thought that communication and some simple advertising would go along ways to help the program and was willing to help with this. They told me they didn't need help.
So ... my 2 cents is, this COULD be a great program if advertising and communications were well done. But people can't bid if they either don't know the program exists or don't know what stallions are available to bid on. (Photos and information on each stallion should be available either on the ASPC website or through a link on the website in advance). Congress is not the place to have the auction if classes are being held at the same time (this happened one year). People are too involved with getting horses ready to stop and bid at a sweepstakes auction. And the "flexibility" of the rules that I have seen is just not acceptable for a class that costs so much to enter and has such large paybacks. (By the way - if you've won at the sweepstakes - I congratulate you. From what I've seen, the classes have been placed fairly. I have no problem with the program with respect to judging/placing.).
If I see that the new management (who I am NOT criticising here - Jason was not in charge of the program when I had most of the problems) is running this well and professionally, then I will participate again. But for now, even with the good paybacks, it is just not worth the effort and the frustration.
I participated in the Classic Sweepstakes for several years - and would have continued to participate - but IN MY OPINION communications were so poor, that I could just not see spending that much money any longer.
I felt like I had to BEG for information. One year my checks were not cashed. My checks are issued directly from my on-line bank and they automatically void the check and notify me if a check is not cashed in 90 days. The next payment was made on a credit card, but they didn't charge it until months later. I keep very limited credit line on that particular card, and when they finally did charge it, it over extended my credit line and cost me a fee. A few years ago, someone who contacted me that they were interested in bidding on my stallion couldn't do so because of miscommunications about the bidding time. I would have had to buy both breedings myself to participate and since I didn't have 2 ASPC mares at the time, I had to drop out.
I nominated my stallion in 2005 for the 2006 Sweepstakes and when I didn't recieve the information packet for nominating my mare, I started making calls. Found out that it had changed hands and I was never notified. I called the ASPC office and they didn't even seem to know what the Sweepstakes was! They kept trying to point me to the people who run the futurities and were pretty rude when I kept insisting that I didn't need to talk to someone about futurities. I had to give them a rather lengthy explanation of what the Sweepstakes is, how it differs from the futurities, who used to manage it, etc etc etc. They still didn't really seem to understand what I was talking about. They also didn't know who was running it and didn't seem particularly interested in getting me the information. I was told to contact my Area rep!
Finally I tracked down the phone number and called - I admit I was a bit rude to poor Jason by this time and I know this all was not his fault! I did get the info not too long afterwards, but by then the deadline for nominating a mare had passed and I had had enough. I decided I was finished with the sweepstakes. Nominating fee down the drain.
And... by the way ... I DID offer to help with the program one of my first years when some issues first came up - you know, be part of the solution and all that. I thought that communication and some simple advertising would go along ways to help the program and was willing to help with this. They told me they didn't need help.
So ... my 2 cents is, this COULD be a great program if advertising and communications were well done. But people can't bid if they either don't know the program exists or don't know what stallions are available to bid on. (Photos and information on each stallion should be available either on the ASPC website or through a link on the website in advance). Congress is not the place to have the auction if classes are being held at the same time (this happened one year). People are too involved with getting horses ready to stop and bid at a sweepstakes auction. And the "flexibility" of the rules that I have seen is just not acceptable for a class that costs so much to enter and has such large paybacks. (By the way - if you've won at the sweepstakes - I congratulate you. From what I've seen, the classes have been placed fairly. I have no problem with the program with respect to judging/placing.).
If I see that the new management (who I am NOT criticising here - Jason was not in charge of the program when I had most of the problems) is running this well and professionally, then I will participate again. But for now, even with the good paybacks, it is just not worth the effort and the frustration.
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Had a great talk with Jason Prince at the Convention. He is WANTING help before this program dies.
Get ahold of him again. He is trying right now to get a National Sponsor...........
Get ahold of him again. He is trying right now to get a National Sponsor...........
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There was also talk of moving the Classic Sweepstakes auction back to Convention with the Modern Sweepstakes auction. The Modern Sweepstakes auction was held right before the Trainers Auction and there were either 12 or 13 stallions entered.
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I believe it was 12 Lewella............the first place horse will get around $1400 I think Amy said.......they will pay out more than this Congress Sweepstakes, Modern Class.
