Color Question

[Raine Ranch Minis]

I was thinking about my little mare. She is a Pintoloosa. So 50/50 Pinto/App. If I bred her to a Pinto what would the resulting foal be? 75/25 Pinto/App?? Or ??? And the same If I bred her to a App? What would that foal be?

Just wondering?

 

[ShaunaL]

I use this color calculator to see color possibilities. It's fun to see all the different colors possible. Have fun!

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[love_casper]

Depends on the pinto and appy genes involved. There are lots of different pinto patterns, and some have a little different probability. We'd have to see a picture of her to guess the patterns. The only way to know a horse will pass down its pattern is for it to be homozygous for it. In appies that would be snowcaps and fewspots, and any pinto pattern except LWO. When breeding two colored horses (although I generally advise when breeding ANY minis because it can hide pretty well) test for LWO.

She may or may not pass down her appy gene, her pinto gene(s?), and same goes for the stallion's appy/pinto/both unless proven homozygous. Lots of possible combinations!

For reference, the pinto patterns are Tobiano, Splash, Sabino, and Frame - which is LWO. A horse can carry all of them at the same time, as my stallion does. There are multiple kinds of Sabino and only a test for one of them. What I meant by the probability comment is Splash is incomplete dominant and LWO is only ever heterozygous, while Sabino and Tobiano can be hetero or **** without much visual difference.

 

[Minimor]

I'm not sure that the 50/50 or 75/25 thing really applies to pinto or appy? If you breed a solid to a pinto, the offspring is either pinto or solid--if solid, is there pinto "hiding" there behind a few white hairs somewhere, or is the horse a true solid, as in it didn't inherit the pinto gene from its pinto parent? Even though the horse has a pinto parent, if it didn't inherit the pinto gene then you wouldn't say that the horse is half pinto, because in reality he doesn't have a pinto gene.

If you breed a bay Morgan to a chestnut Arabian you end up with a horse that is half Morgan, half Arabian--but he's not generally referred to as 'half bay' no matter what color he is.

 

[Raine Ranch Minis]

I'm not sure that the 50/50 or 75/25 thing really applies to pinto or appy? If you breed a solid to a pinto, the offspring is either pinto or solid--if solid, is there pinto "hiding" there behind a few white hairs somewhere, or is the horse a true solid, as in it didn't inherit the pinto gene from its pinto parent? Even though the horse has a pinto parent, if it didn't inherit the pinto gene then you wouldn't say that the horse is half pinto, because in reality he doesn't have a pinto gene.

If you breed a bay Morgan to a chestnut Arabian you end up with a horse that is half Morgan, half Arabian--but he's not generally referred to as 'half bay' no matter what color he is.

Ahh Ok I understand that.

Here is a picture.

 

[chandab]

Here is a picture.

She's a cute little mare. I looked at the pics you posted on the photo forum, and I'm still trying to find the "pinto" to call her pintaloosa, I haven't seen any obvious pinto markings. [i don't know appy markings well enough to know what type of appy she might be.]

 

[supaspot]

Ahh Ok I understand that.

Here is a picture.

Im sorry but I dont see pintaloosa , I dont see appy at all and the only pinto characteristics I see are white socks ,are saying theyre caused by splash ?

have you got a pc of her before she was clipped ?

 

[Raine Ranch Minis]

She's a cute little mare. I looked at the pics you posted on the photo forum, and I'm still trying to find the "pinto" to call her pintaloosa, I haven't seen any obvious pinto markings. [i don't know appy markings well enough to know what type of appy she might be.]

Her Mom (Dam) is a BL/White Pinto.

 

[Raine Ranch Minis]

Im sorry but I dont see pintaloosa , I dont see appy at all and the only pinto characteristics I see are white socks ,are saying theyre caused by splash ?

have you got a pc of her before she was clipped ?

Yes

Here are spots

 

[Raine Ranch Minis]

I use this color calculator to see color possibilities. It's fun to see all the different colors possible. Have fun!

Color Calculator

Thank You!!

 

[love_casper]

I see a cute snowflake appy but don't see any pinto characteristics. Just because her dam was a pinto does not in any way mean that she herself is. The dam was most likely heterozygous for whatever pattern she carried and did not pass it to your girl.

 

[Raine Ranch Minis]

I see a cute snowflake appy but don't see any pinto characteristics. Just because her dam was a pinto does not in any way mean that she herself is. The dam was most likely heterozygous for whatever pattern she carried and did not pass it to your girl.

AH ok that is what I wanted to know.

Thank you