Do I have to have him checked for OLWS ?

[kuusou]

Will soon get my first miniature horse

The breeder say he is a overo. Have read about OWLS and understand that its only frame overo that can have this gene. Someone told me that his mother looks like a frame overo so he must be it too. But he does not have any spots. Can he still be a frame overo ?

He as foal with his mother.

And a newer picture

Here you see his body in the back.

 

[REO]

I can see that the mare has Splash, Sabino and Tobiano. The colt looks to have Splash and Sabino.

Pretty much any horse can be a carrier of LWO (Frame) without people knowing. You don't always see the physical signs. I would say that it is a very good idea to have your colt tested!

If he's to be used for breeding some day. Very smart thing to do.

 

[Kelsey - Vandy's Farm]

I can see that the mare has Splash, Sabino and Tobiano. The colt looks to have Splash and Sabino.

Pretty much any horse can be a carrier of LWO (Frame) without people knowing. You don't always see the physical signs. I would say that it is a very good idea to have your colt tested!

If he's to be used for breeding some day. Very smart thing to do.

I second that.

Technically, the mare is a tovero

and I agree on the colts color as well.

Even a solid horse can test positive for LWO. Any horse you are going to breed should be tested to avoid crossing two horses that are carriers.

 

[kuusou]

Then I'll have him tested

Shall be interesting to see how he looks like under all that coat

 

[REO]

Shall be interesting to see how he looks like under all that coat

Like opening a gift to see what you got!

 

[Eagle]

What was it that Forest Gumpy said??? "Minis are like a box of chocolates, you just never know what you will get"

 

[bannerminis]

I would test just to be sure especially if you plan to keep him as a stallion. And as I think Rabbitsfizz put it if Rowdy even walked past his lineage then she would test.

 

[kaykay]

Congrats on your mini!

I hope you dont mind me saying but that coat is a clue to some poor nutrition and/or parasites going on. I would get that clipped off and ***** what is under there.

Kay

 

[Songcatcher]

Here are just a few examples of horses I own or have owned who carry the Frame Overo gene:

McSperitts Rowdy Night Image

Songcatchers Walking After Midnight:

Songcatchers Can You Imagine:

McSperitts Masterpiece Tori:

White Diamonds Love Me Tender, and her foal who has not yet been tested, but I suspect he is also:

Just goes to show how easily it can hide.

 

[kuusou]

Guessing on that too. And that he's ben out all year round and not brushed I guess make it parts too. Gonna have him checked for parasite as soon he'll get here. And cut all furr away

 

[kaykay]

Even out all year he should have shed out that coat this late in the year. Especially look for lice. He could be a little thin under all of that.

 

[kuusou]

The pictures are from june, so he might have loose it now. My shetland did have his wintercoat until late june start on july.

Lice I really must look after , did not have that in mind so thank you

Think he'll need to bee feed up, especially after travel for over 2 days before he arrives.

 

[bullockcorner]

Glad you're going to test. I also have a couple near solids that are LWO+. But mostly wanted to say: Welcome to the world of miniature horses! It's a great trip!!!

Noticed that none of the other posters mentioned the usual "disclaimer" about : you can't have just one mini...they are so addictive that before you know it,

you will have several!

Best of luck!

 

[kuusou]

Someone now told me that he is not a overo. Just have a lots of white in his face

aren't a horse with a lots of white either overo or a tobino ? God this horse make me crazy even before he arrives

Same with his coat color, can't figure it out >__<

 

[ohmt]

Whoever told you that must not be very knowledgeable about pinto/overo genetics. Your boy is most certainly an overo (sabino for sure) and could be frame. There are many horses who appear solid but for a snip and are frame overos. Genotype is much more important than phenotype. All you have to do is send in some hairs for testing to find out what his base color is and whether or not he is frame.

 

[REO]

Tobianos don't have ANY face white. If a horse has any, that is another pattern. Horses can carry a whole bunch of patterns at the same time.

Splash causes snips, blue eyes and bald faces, chin white. Sabino and Frame cause face white too. There are different types of Sabino.

Some people call ONLY Frame as Overo.

But some call Splash and I guess Sabino as Overo too.

My stallion Topper is Frame, Splash, Tobiano, & Sabino LOL

 

[AnnaC]

Welcome.

It looks as though you have a very sweet little fella soon to arrive on your doorstep! Congratulations!

A lot of yearlings have coats that look like your boy's, when they come to their first Spring/early Summer, and sometimes when they haven't been fed too well during their first winter, they seem to have trouble discarding the last of their thick winter/foal coat and end up looking just as yours does, instead of having a nice summer coat.

Your little boy doesn't look very strong yet, he's still very young and he may find a two day journey to your home a bit much for him. Hopefully the transporter will have food and water on board and will take regular stops to give his pasengers a rest from the continuous movement of a vehicle. You need to be prepared for your new baby to be pretty tired when he arrives. A nice well bedded stall, some water, leafy soft hay and a small warm mushy feed would probably be welcomed, followed by a long sleep. LOL!! If he is used to having grass then make sure this continues as it will be better for his digestive system not to have a sudden change in his feeding programme.

Do you know if he has been wormed regularly, and if so, with what? Have a word with your vet regarding a worming programme for him, but do not use Quest on mini horses when worming. I'm sure that once he has had time to get settled in, has had a little tidy up, been checked for worms and lice and has a chance to get some suitable food inside him, you will find that you have a nice young horse to be proud of.

Good luck!

 

[kuusou]

Anna: He really looks like a sweetheart

.They will make several stops on the way, he travel from Netherlands to Sweden so its a long travel. Will have him stalled the fist nights so he's spirited when I'll let him together with my other horses. Will also have a vet check him for worms and lice and give him a sedative shot before I cut his coat.

 

[AnnaC]

I love your avatar picture - what a pretty face!

You seem to be very well organised - well done! It is very difficult, when people first come and post on LB, just how much that person actually knows, so you will have to forgive us if we tell you something that you already have knowledge of. Just remember we all want to help if we can.

Diane has some good advice regarding clipping, if you start with getting him used to the noise and then gently run the clippers over him without actually clipping, just as Diane says, then you should find he will be fine with the proceedure. We clip ours without even tying them up, and they just stand there and go to sleep! You could even cut some of his coat off with special 'rounded edged' scissors (no sharp points), getting rid of the worst of it before trying to clip - will save your clippers getting too hot or blunt trying to get through the thick matts. (but as you mentioned, he may have lost a lot of his coat anyway by now)

You say that you will be putting him out with your other horses - do you have other minis? It is not a good idea to run minis with larger ponies/horses, they may like each other but when having a play, one knock from a big horse's foot can do untold damage to a mini even if the result isn't fatal. Even if you have other minis, then it would still be wise to pasture them alongside each other (safe, strong fencing of course) for a couple of weeks or longer, to give them a chance to get well aquainted before you think about turning them all out together (and to give you time to watch and see who might not be so agreeable to having your new little lad join the rest of the 'herd') Also if your little lad is still an entire, then he should not be mixing with females of ANY age, as not only could he get them in foal, he could get himself badly kicked while pestering them.

By the way - could we know your name?

 

[kuusou]

Diane & Anna: oh then we'll try that first id think they was more like big horses, scared for most thing :RollEyesbut it sound more like my shetland

I have 2 regular Shetlands ponies, one stallion who is 32,7" and one gelding who is 31.5" both 6 years old. Will do as you wrote have him side by side with them for some time and after that let my gelding in to him first. He is the sweetest horse I've ever had, never bite or kicked at another horse. My stallion is still a bit insecure, brought him from a old man who did beat him. But he's too is a sweetheart and have been together with other stallions before. There are only my two guy at my place.

His new friends

My name is Charlie and my little minis name is SLC Blazing Outlaw