Gelding Incentive Programs

[moos_n_neighs]

Can anyone tell me a little about gelding incentive programs available through AMHA and AMHR? Thanks

 

[JMS Miniatures]

Its a class to try to get more people to geld their horses. Its not a rated class but a pay back class.

 

[moos_n_neighs]

Sorry, I should have more specific. I understand the theory behind an association having a gelding incentive program. What I am looking to find out is how can one participate in this with AMHA and AMHR? Is money only earned in gelding halter classes, or do performance classes count, too? Are there only certain shows that count? If you have a gelding, do you have to fill out a form for your gelding to be eligible for points/payments? Thanks

 

[Littleum]

AMHA only pays out the GIF monies at Worlds. You have to go Top Ten or better in an Amateur or Open gelding class. I know the Halter classes pay out, but I'm not sure if the Gelding driving classes do. The Open *** classes (Hunter, Obstacle, Single Pleasure 32"-34" ect) do not pay out any monies.

 

[minimomNC]

We participate in the Gelding Incentive in AMHA, its a wonderful program. It is for youth and amateur geldings only, not open. To earn money you just have to show in a youth gelding halter class or an amateur gelding halter class. Thats it. No performance class as of yet because they don't have gelding only performance classes in youth or amateur.

For AMHR you have to pay to be in an extra class that only pays out a very few places and not nearly as much money as AMHA per place. Our Sr gelding placed top ten in the class and got nothing. In AMHA with two geldings we brought home almost $700.

 

[moos_n_neighs]

Ok, so AMHR you have to enter a separate class at shows. Is this only at the Nationals, or other shows as well?

For AMHA you have to make top ten in a youth or amateur gelding halter class, correct? But they only pay at their World show. I wonder why they don't extend this program beyond the World show? Maybe they look at it as a way to increase participation at that show from youths and ammys.

So it sounds like neither association requires you to submit a form during the show season to make your horse eligible to participate, am I correct?

 

[Erica]

AMHR - places down to 6 places I think at the National Show........they also offer these incentive classes at each national AREA shows.

AMHR - The showee's name HAS to be listed specifically on the registration papers for the ammy incentive classes, family members name won't cut it (as it will in the regular ammy classes.

 

[Sanny]

The local mini clubs we belong to have their own gelding incentive program that is really good. We actually didn't take the time to enroll in it last year and when I saw the money we could have won by participating I was bummed. Maybe look into local programs rather than or in addition to the classes offered at nationals.

 

[MIKER]

Can anyone tell me a little about gelding incentive programs available through AMHA and AMHR? Thanks

Hi. My name is Mike Rosauer and I am the chairman for the AMHA GIF committee. I am glad that you brought this up. At last years national convention we discussed how we would like to see GIF expand. We would like to continue to see the payouts at the world show in amt and youth halter. We would also like to extend the program to all the youth and amt classes at each of the regionals. We also discussed adding the gelding country and gelding open single at both the world show and the regionals. Our biggest problem is raising the money to accomplish our goals. So as we raise more money look forward to more classes.

 

[minimomNC]

I think Mike and Alison both deserve a huge thank you for all the work they have done to make this incentive program come to life. I am such a huge fan of geldings and truly think that if there is an avenue to utilize them, that maybe people will geld more of them. Now I choose who we show as to how many geldings we can take and show at each show. Since Samantha has now gone to amateur level 2 in halter, I might just have to take her geldings in amateur level 1 for more chances to let them pay their way. I will be at the convention and if votes count I will sure be putting mine in there to increase the program. And you will find alot of people are now agreeing, in AMHA the gelding classes are as tough if not tougher in some cases than the stallion classes. It takes a very good gelding to win now.

 

[disneyhorse]

Hello! In 2005 I showed my gelding in the AMHR Super G program, he was at his three-year-old year.

To nominate your AMHR gelding, it is $25 and then $100 each year after that to sustain them. They must ALSO be nominated and sustained in the REGULAR AMHR Futurity as well!!! If you let the regular Futurity expire, you cannot show in Super G.

If you want to buy into the Super G program and you have a Futurity Sustained horse, it is DOUBLE the back fees to pay.

I have to say, I did make the money back that I paid into the Super G nomination and sustaining fees, but really... it was NOT financially attractive. I WOULD do it again to support gelding programs, but not to try to make any money.

In my opinion they need a cheaper gelding program (AMHR) to promote geldings and make it more feasible for more people to show/ want to show. The Super G is more expensive than the regular Futurity!!! :no:

Just my opinion... I would Super G nominate his little brother for this year but don't want to pay the back fees, I would lose money most likely!!!

Andrea

 

[moos_n_neighs]

The reason I asked about this to begin with is I'm a newbie with a colt I'm planning to geld before show season. I've grown up with and always had big horses, but fell in love with minis when I went to a show during a college internship experience over ten years ago. Now I have a just-turned three year old daughter. I sadly had to put down my old retired show mare this past fall which left an open stall and the perfect situation to get a mini and we're having a BLAST with this little guy.

Anyway, I want something my daughter can really enjoy, so we're definitely gelding this colt and was curious as to what opportunities might be out there. I grew up doing AHSA hunters and equitation, so the breed show thing is brand new to me. I know AQHA has a big gelding incentive program, but I have no idea how it works. Does anybody know anything about their program?

I realize it must be an expensive program to administer, but it's a worthwhile one. As with any breed, there are always way to many intact studs out there. A wise person once told me a nice colt will make an even better gelding! Not to mention the fact that the backbone of any equine group is likely to be its amateur members and they are more likely to have geldings in their barns. Do AMHA or AMHR offer any kick backs from this program to the breeders of the geldings or to the stallion owners (who sired the geldings)?

P.S.-Just wanted to add how great this board is - I've learned so much about minis since I've found this place!

 

[Chamomile]

I just wanted to add that the regular futurity that Andrea talked about is when the colts sire and dam were nominated for the futurity. Meaning the breeder paid to have the stallion and mare nominated, before the baby was born. If this wasn't done, then your colt wouldn't be able to be in the futurity, not even the Super G. In my opinion they would get more geldings nominated if they didn't have this rule.

: Strictly my opinion! I have a colt that I am going to show the pants off of, but the breeder didn't know that in order to be in the Super G the sire and dam would need to be nominated, so he isn't eligible. Bummer... I did nominate my stallion and the two mares he was bred to this year. I think it's a nice touch to have the foals be futurity nominated.