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Marty, thank you so much for caring and yes I do realize how close I came to being severly hurt or killed today. I am thankful things turned out the way they did. I think that the fact that I grew up on horses, ride well, and have immense faith in myself and my abilities gives me a false sense of security that I shouldn't have. I will definately be more careful in the future, but you are right I do temp fate and I really shouldn't.

As for the bucking I would love to hear what you do. I am a very open minded person and love to hear new ideas. I am actually a little lost on this mare because I believe she bucks out of fear. When I bought her you couldn't touch her, if you came near her she would get the white ring around her eyes and you could see the fear. I feel she was abused on the ground because her previous owners were scared of her. If you would saddle her and she would start to buck it would immediately be followed by her running, forward, backward, or any other direction to get away from you. I think if she bucked they beat her on the ground. When I first started working her in the round corral she would literally try to run herself to death. Wouldn't stop, turn, rest or anything else. It was like they used the round corral to punish her by just pushing her around and around until she was in a lather. I spent the first month gaining trust, brushing, petting, saddling (in the round corral) if she wanted to buck fine, but it did her no good. I worked her in the round corral slowly until now she will walk, trot, lope, turn, stop, and come into the center to see me. She is relaxed with it now and no longer has the white ring around her eyes and no more fear that a person is going to try to kill her whenever they come around. I was riding her as well through this time as well and I still believe her bucking comes from fear. If something scares her she doesn't spook, spin to look, or even try to run away, she bucks. I don't know how that came to be her release, but it is. She is also VERY sensitive to your feet so I never wear spurs. I do use my feet quite a bit so that I don't suprise her while roping and cause problems so she is used to my feet and moves nicely, she is just sensitive. In the last month I thought I was really gaining with her though. She hasn't even offered to buck, she meets me at the gate to be caught. I can pick up all her feet brush her anywhere on her body, she no longer spooks and jumps every time someone walks by and she was doing excellent in the arena. She was picking things up quickly, but I wasn't pushing her too hard. She is such a quiet pleasure to ride, she's almost too quiet sometimes. I guess that is what gives the false sense of security that she won't buck. I get on and she just walks off breaks into a smooth lope, flying lead changes. Half pass very smooth, spin on her hind end or the forehand, flex very well everything so calm and quiet, in the last three weeks I just got overly confident that she trusted me. Today I think that since I didn't warm her up to a sweat like usual and when she shorted me a little I probably grabbed her in the flank area with my feet. That could have made her take that first jump and since I was out of position on her it probably scared her more when I grabbed hard with my legs and made a quick motion to get back in the middle of the saddle. From there it just escalated until she got away from the fear. I stood up and she was about 200' away just wondering what happened. I told her to "whoa" and then kissed and asked her to come. She trotted right up to me like "oh my gosh what happened?" I got back on and she was fine for the rest of the day. I will have to be more careful in the future about trusting her and trying to find out just exactly what sets her off. I wish I knew what happened to her previously, I listen to the signs she gives me and piece things together from her actions, but I obviously don't have it all figured out on her.

I'm taking things easy right now (got out of helping to unload and stack 10 ton of hay
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) although I would rather unload the hay anyday. I will keep you posted on how things go and be more careful in the future. If you really want to drive all this way I'll take a sample of your "what for" for the chance to hear some more of your wisdom in person. Thanks again for everything.
 
Good grief girl! That has to HURT!
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Hope you heal quickly and get your mare figured out. You really should get your head checked out, AND your kidneys, but you're probably like me and figure you will if it still hurts REALLY bad in a few days. Good luck in your competition and let us know how you do.
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OK you very obviously do know what you are doing. I am now going to seed a thought on your head that you are NOT going to like. I know that because I had a similar thing happen to me when I was about 22 ( I am figuring you are not a lot older??) and I did not like what I was told either. There is only one answer to this mare. You would never be able, in good conscience, to sell her to anyone. She will always fall back on this if she is scared. It took me two years and then he nearly killed my father after over a year almost trouble free- ie, no lunging massing around before riding. I went through all the "cold back" theories and got him special saddle pads. I had the saddle re-fitted etc. He still nearly killed my father (who had not got the sense just to fall off!! As bl**dy minded as me!)

OK, now the punch line........

I had him shot.

This is a mare- if you are convinced that the bucking is caused by mishandling, you could breed from her.

Please stop trying to work her out before she kills you
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Another thought from a closed head injury veteran.

What you need to realize is that a brain can take time to swell...depends on the injury. Please....please go get examined. My symptoms didn't occur until a day or two later, kinda like your scrapes are gonna swell.

Now, we expect to hear a full report about your visit to the doctor. If we all know Marty, don't upset her plans for holiday decorations, and bring her can of gentle whoop A%% to ensure you get to the doctor!

Get along little dawgie!

Cindy
 
Too bad you weren't doing saddlebronc at the time.... you probably would have placed
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Yikes girl! At least you have age on your side, you'll heal quick. Your gonna be mighty sore. Let us know how you do at the rodeo. Good luck
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Yeah, I would worry about the head injury thing but obviously you have a hard head. Being an old ER nurse I would worry about your kidneys as the skinned pattern has that horse stepping and twisting right over your kidneys. I would run, not walk, to your local ER at any signs of bloody urine.
 
l bet that was scarey and you were lucky there was not more damage to you. My daughter works with the track horses and has had many mishaps as she calls them but the owner now makes them wear helmets for all the green runners which l'm grateful for as she thinks nothing of being dumped on her head and so for sure would never go to a doctor to get checked after being thrown. Once she had to be taken to the hospital because one of the big guys swung his head when she was leading him and knocked her out cold. l was in a panic but l know she loves what she does and is much more careful now that she's older about everything and l think she actually misses her little toe that got stomped of at the track one year by some antsy idiot. Stay alert and wear a helmet horses don't care what you look like.
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OK, I have an update for everyone. I did go into the doctor today and he said that I was lucky. I have mild brusing on my back, but no damage to anything. I will be stiff for a while and the scabs are gonna hurt, but no damage. My head is fine, no swelling, no concussion, and the cut is going to be fine without stitches. So all is well there. I asked him about riding and he said I could. So I have not taken any pain medicine so that if something really starts hurting I will know. I did go rope on her again and she was fine today. Just like the last three weeks and yesterday afternoon. Just plumb fine, I'm lost at her behavior sometimes. Rabbitsfizz, thank you for your advise. I do not plan to sell this mare just because I don't want to get someone else hurt. I still hope that I can understand her enough to ride her without being hurt as she is possbily the nicest horse I have ever thrown a leg across. And trust me I've strattled my share. If I can't figure her out she is definately worth breeding as I think her problem is human induced not bred in. She's Colonel Freckles, Sugar Bars, Leo, and Lee Cody just to name a few so she's definately bred up good. Any way I fell better today just a little stiff in the back and the jeans rub the scabs, but overall things are looking pretty good. Thanks everyone.
 
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Whew! So glad you went to the doctor and let us know!

Have you ever thought about keeping a diary? I just love to read your posts, just like out of a cowboy novel.....wonderful and very descriptive. There'll come a day when you'll look back on these times and wish you had them to refer to. Very likely, you have just as much ability to write a book as you do at ropin steers. Frankly, I'd love to read some stories you'd have to tell and I'm an old geezer! Just think how many young folks would love to read about your adventures in your own words....no fancy stuff...just you!

Thanks again for letting us know the doctor's gave you the all clear. Lucky you're not my kid, I'd hide your horses at the neighbors for a week!

Cindy
 
Well Dunpainted, dad has threatened to take the keys to my horses away
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. I don't know what I'd do then though, he knows that the time I spend with my horses keeps me out of other kinds of trouble. IPlus at 22 I guess he realizes that I'm old enough to make my own decisions even if he doesn't agree with them. I just love him for being the way he is, so loving and protective of me and yet at the same time he understands that I NEED to get back on and ride that horse. It's just the life I live. I have never thought of myself as a writer, but I have always tried very hard to get my point across in a simple manner everyone can understand even if they aren't in my field.

Also, thanks for the humorous comments about the 8 second ride and winning the bronc riding everyone. However, I'm not sure how good the judge would score me for always being a jump behind the horse and never catching up
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Wow looks like you did get a good bruise, glad it's not too bad though.

The mare looks nice, and the breeding is good I'll admit, but that's not the first horse I've heard of that's had the Colonel Freckles bloodline that's been bad to buck. LOL We used to have a little mare that was Colonel Freckles bred and she was small but was a snake when it came to trying to throw you off. LOL She also had a bad quirk about rearing up and falling over backwards with you, and my SIL had gotten her as a potential barrel horse. And Cody took her to ride since she'd gotten so dangerous. She'd be fine all day, till the very end and just flip over with you. Never could break her of it, and finally sent her to packers. She had speed and woudl of been a good rope or barrel horse, but you just couldn't trust her or predict when she was gonna blow up and hurt someone really bad.

But as some say its the ones with the most heart and are the worst to get threw to soemtimes, that make the best ones. LOL Cody's got a grade QH we aptly named Hitler. LOL He a devil when he decides to pitch a fit and as Cody says your better off to just try to talk him out of it then to try to ride him. But he's a top cow horse. He'll watch a cow like nobody's business and Cody's won some roping on him too. But he's been known to make a 20-30 mile circle before and try to throw you off 100 yards from the house. LOL
 
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Hey girl, I'm impressed. I'm twice your age [and then some], and I still do

stuff I shouldn't. You bounce really good. It is a really nice mare and you never

know she may come around. My old gelding was headed for the killers because

he was nuts and he turned out to be the BEST horse I have ever had. I had him

for 26 years beforse he had to be put down from cushings. That booger could

buck but not nearly as bad as the one I bred and raised. I sent him out to a

trainer and told her I just wanted walk, trot canter. I got back walk, trot, yahoo.

Took me two years to get him over it, my husband said I could have won money

in saddle bronc with that nut. Horse is now fine and is now a kids horse. Hope you

heal quick and good luck with the mare. Linda B
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