Help Please Urgent!!!!!!!

[Raine Ranch Minis]

Ok Abbie ( my mare ) is rolling a lot and stopping on her back to just lay there a min. Does this sound like colic? I hear gut sounds and all. I don't know if she has pooped or not because she has been out all day. But what is worrying me is that she is laying down a lot and rolling a lot. Please help!!!!

What should I do???

:unsure

 

[chandab]

Sounds like colic, but with the stopping while on her back, also sounds a bit like ulcers.

If you've not dealt with colic before, I'd call the vet, better safe than sorry.

 

[eagles ring farm]

I would say to call your vet also

Here is what we do in case you can't reach a vet with colicy symptoms (never had experience with ulcers)

We give about 60-90 cc's of mineral oil orally (I use a syringe without the needle on it)and some banamine and walk them alot you don't want them rolling we have a golf cart and circle the hose walking them for half hour or so usually. Then if symptoms subside stall if possible so you can see if they poop. No food till you know whats going on but do provide water. I would talk to your vet if possible first to be sure like I said I never had any experience with ulcers and don't know if what I would do for colic could hurt that situation or not. We have been lucky not to need a vet but I think ours have been mild cases.

I'm sure alot of people on here can help with both. But it is best to at least talk to your vet to hear what they say.

I am not a vet or trained in any vet care just letting you know what we do with colicy symptoms

Keep us posted when you can.

 

[~Dan]

Hi Savannah, yes it sounds like she is colicky to me. I would walk her and trot her some can help to get things moving, will get her mind off of the pain, and may help push some gas out of her gut if it is spasmodic. Walking for 30-45 minutes seems to make a big difference if it spasmodic. After that let her rest for a while in a bedded stall with fresh water but no feed. I have found that after walking placing the horse in a bedded stall they will be encouraged to pass feces and and urinate which can help to relieve pressure on the stomach and soothe the pain, and if she passes feces, then she is most likely not impacted. Try giving an enema if you know how to properly and take her rectal temperature to rule out a possible illness or infection. Check her capillary refill time on her gum's, the blood should refill into the blanched area in 2 seconds or less. Her gum's should also be a light pink not pale and not a dark red. But yes I would agree, call the vet and just touch base with them to get their take o. the situation.

Best of luck to you! I hope she is feeling better soon.

Dan.

 

[Kelsey - Vandy's Farm]

Ok Abbie ( my mare ) is rolling a lot and stopping on her back to just lay there a min. Does this sound like colic? I hear gut sounds and all. I don't know if she has pooped or not because she has been out all day. But what is worrying me is that she is laying down a lot and rolling a lot. Please help!!!!

What should I do???

:unsure

I would give her banamine and diperone. Pull her feed give her lots of water and wait until she poops. Don't let her keep rolling. Walk her. Check her gums and make sure they are pink. Check her heart rate.

If you haven't had a colic before, I would just call the vet. But get her up and walk her now.

 

[Julie/Azariah]

Do consider ulcers...they can be the source and cause colic symptoms. When they roll up on their back and stay there a bit... I would think ulcers.

I typically give Banamine and call the vet, especially if the banamine doesn't help within 20 min...

I have several that have had ulcers... and quite bad cases..and treating them with Ulcer Guard and/or Progressive Soothing Pink did the trick.

 

[jegray21]

I would give her banamine and diperone. Pull her feed give her lots of water and wait until she poops. Don't let her keep rolling. Walk her. Check her gums and make sure they are pink. Check her heart rate.

If you haven't had a colic before, I would just call the vet. But get her up and walk her now.

Sounds like colic, we do 1cc of banamine and call the vet. I walk until the vet gets there. Def don't let her eat anymore food. Check temp heart rate and gum color so you have good information for the vet

good luck!

 

[Helicopter]

Sounds like colic to me. Another way you could try to get her to poop is to put her on the float and go for a short drive. It's worked for me in the past.

 

[eagles ring farm]

How is Abbie this morning?

 

[rockin r]

I agree with ulcers. I have never personally dealt with them in my horses, but I have seen it. Usually a horse will roll onto their backs and stay there for a short period of time if it is ulcers. It can make you think colic, if you have not dealt with ulcers. Ulcer Guard is good. I have also seen friends give their horses yoguart for ulcers and it does help. Whenever I have to give my guys antibiotics or bant., I always give them yoguart with live cultures in it to help with their tummys. They love it. But do call the vet, whether it is colic or ulcers, better not to chance it...Good Luck!

 

[Mona]

I too would think it is ulcers. In every case of ulcers I have seen, it was the laying on back that was the "dead giveaway". I would treat for ulcers and also wouldn't hurt to give probiotics to ensure the gut's working properly.

Also, any chance that maybe she has folicles/eggs that didn't release? In this case, the vet can go in and manually "manipulate" them, causing them to release. If that is the case, there is IMMEDIATE relief once he has done so! I had a mare one time that I was sure was dieing of colic...she would not stand for even A FEW minutes without dropping to the ground and rolling. When the vet got here, we literally dragged her across her stall floor, and after he went in rectally and released the egg, she got up immediately and started eating. The vet and I went into the house for coffee, giving her some time to make sure she was going to be OK, and she never looked back...something so simple, made it look like the difference between living and dieing!

Good Luck with your mare and I hope she is OK!!

 

[Minimor]

I've had colic cases where the horse would roll and then stop on its back--treat the colic & the horse never again lays on its back...so this symptom can easily indicate colic rather than ulcers. If it's an out-of-the-blue thing accompanied by rolling then my first diagnosis is colic.

In any case, I hope by now your mare has recovered and is feeling fine this morning.

 

[Raine Ranch Minis]

She is MUCH better this morning!!!! Thank you everyone for all of your help.

I called the vet last night and he NEVER called me back!!!!

Not much help there!!!!

 

[eagles ring farm]

So glad she is doing better and thanks for letting us know we all worry till we hear keep an eye on her still for a couple days if possible as the banimine is for the pain and will mask something else if its present.

 

[Jetiki]

Is the mare bred? the mare that aborted this year did exactly that lots of rolling, stopping on her back with all 4's in the air, it was pretty scary.

Glad to hear your horse is better today.

Karen

 

[Raine Ranch Minis]

Is the mare bred? the mare that aborted this year did exactly that lots of rolling, stopping on her back with all 4's in the air, it was pretty scary.

Glad to hear your horse is better today.

Karen

No, she is not. She is a two year old.

 

[bevann]

In cases of gas colic(if that's what it is) my vet told me to give horse GAS -X.Got the kind that dissolve on tongue.Get 4 strips(thay are hard to peel open)put all 4 together in side of mouth on tongue where there are no teeth.They dissolve almost instantly.Learned the hard way not to do indivivually.After the first 1 your fingers are damp and they stick to you ,not horse. Glad she is doing better.

 

[StarRidgeAcres]

Is the mare bred? the mare that aborted this year did exactly that lots of rolling, stopping on her back with all 4's in the air, it was pretty scary.

Glad to hear your horse is better today.

Karen

My first thought also. I've never had a colic or ulcer horse lay on their back, but did have a mare to that once. Would roll, paw, just like a colic episode, but when down would get on her back and stay there with her hooves up in the air. She'd lay like that for what seemed like minutes at a time. Called the vet for suspected colic, vet came out, started the exam, lifted up her tail and smelled and said "I smell placenta; this mare is aborting." It ended up being the WORST abortion I've experienced. It took forever to get the foal out and it was SO painful on the mare. That was the first time I'd ever heard a horse scream. Not something you ever want to hear. That was the mare's second aborted foal in a row. She's now a therapy animal in a non-breeding home.

So, point being, if a mare is doing that and is possibly bred, one should also consider she's aborting.

In cases of gas colic(if that's what it is) my vet told me to give horse GAS -X.Got the kind that dissolve on tongue.Get 4 strips(thay are hard to peel open)put all 4 together in side of mouth on tongue where there are no teeth.They dissolve almost instantly.Learned the hard way not to do indivivually.After the first 1 your fingers are damp and they stick to you ,not horse. Glad she is doing better.

Thanks for this information. Hadn't heard of using Gas-x strips, but sounds like an interesting option.

 

[Helicopter]

I've had a mare who lay on her back with legs straight up in the air,.......mind you she does have a back like a table top...... then got up and kept walking backwards. Took her for a little ride in the float (to the vets) pooped on the way and was better when we got there. Didn't stop the vet from charging though. Now in the rare event of a colic like episode I try the float first and it doesn't cost 90 dollars.