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Leeana

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Okay we have got a stud (OUR FIRST!!!) and were going to start breeding (for our own purpose, none of the offspring are going to be sold because to much breeding is already a problem. Were getting our mare this saturday!! (pics of all the new ones coming soon ..allot of catching up to do)

but the to point ...

We only have 2 pastures ...1 where my dad/sis keep the calf's and one which is mine where i keep my mini's and ponies. Well this is our only stud and he seems to be getting along w/ coco, rocky and joey pretty well. There stalls are by each other and i walk skyler (stud) around in the pasture on a lead and he hasnt done much to them. Allot of sniffing and licking but no real anger. Well how many here keep there studs w/ there gelding. I know not to keep a mare in there with the stud because that wouldnt end to well. I just dont like keeping skyler in with tamila's dirty cows.

so how many here put there studs out to pasture with there geldings?
 
I keep a bachlor herd, but let me warn you that if a mare is anywhere insight of that stallion and it is breeding season, that stallion could easily turn on the gelding. With this said, I haven't had too many issues, but that could change at any moment if the conditions are just right. (Like if the mare gets out and goes near the pasture that the gelding and stallion are in.) This is a do at your own risk situation and does NOT work for every stallion and can be dangerous to all involved. But then again, many have been successful with keeping a stallion and gelding together as well.

Oh... Make sure you have a very large area to keep them in that way the gelding has a chance to get out of the stallion's territory should the stallion get aggressive. The smaller the area that they are in, the more testy they can be.
 
Nope not here. Tried that once. Lasted a whole 5 minis before the stud was on a death hunt of the geldings.

Currently we have a stallion liveing on his own, one liveing with the camels and my weanling and my aunts yearling liveing together.
 
I keep my stallion Nakota ( all of 29 some inches ) in with my donkey gelding ( havent measured him, but guessing him to be around 40 some inches, ) and also with my riding horse Shadow. I have never measured him eather, but he is a very small horse - I am guessing he is a cross between a large Welsh and a Morgan - so that might give you some idea of his size. I know I know - a lot of people will frown on this - but honestly - the little guy and the big guy are the best of friends.
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Shadow ( horse ) even shares his grain with Nakota - the worst he has ever done his nudge him away. It is just to unbelievable. I would never advocate keeping the little guys with the full size horses though, not in a heart beat.
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To many things could happen and I know I am leaving my self wide open for the varioubles - by keeping my little one in with the biggy. Any hoo - when I first brought Nakota home, I kept him in a seperate erea and let him get use to Shadow and vice - versa. Oh and by the way - Shadow is pushing twenty or there abouts and so of course is all ready laid back because of his senior years. Hope that things work out for you! Lori
 
[SIZE=14pt]Right now three stallions and one gelding are sharing a field. However. If you think you are going to also keep the mare in there that is a HUGE mistake!!!! SOmeone is going to get hurt badly. [/SIZE]

Lyn
 
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I have an extremely laid back stallion who was raised with his gelding buddy but

there is no way I will turn them out together unless I am right there with them.

Mind you these horses I raised together and they are stabled next to each other

but things can change in a heartbeat when you have mares ANYWHERE NEAR.

I have mares on the property so I am extremely careful. Linda B
 
Absolutely 100% I do NOT have any stallions near my gelding!

Liz R.
 
I am much more likely to keep my mares and geldings together than stallions and geldings. Once they are 2, they are with a donkey, a llama, or alone in a pen. I used to have a stallion that was put with other stallions in the off season at an earlier home and came to me with his eye destroyed. I would hate to see something like that happen to any one of my boys.
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3 stallions (2 breeding) and 3 geldings live adjacent to a dozen mares (have all summer) with absolutely no problems. The six eat oats and hay out of one "tire" feeder. To me it would seem that stallions and geldings not getting along would be the exception rather than the rule.
 
My stallions have run together, all breeding stallions. I keep one 6yr old stallion with all my geldings. My 3rd old stallion is with my new "stallion" he's a weanling. I do have one stallion he's 29" tall maybe smaller. But he must be by himself or with mares he does not get along with the boys at all. He is 5. We have 4 stallions.
 
I do run mine together, well they are actually both stallions, but I guess it's the same concept. I haven't had any problems yet and I have ran several different herds of stallions together, adding new and taking out old etc...... when I bought or sold one. When I first put them together they squeal, arch their necks, paw, make a racket like the world is coming to an end, but really don't do much. A few times I've seen them rear at eachother and kick a few times, but nothing serious enough to hurt one (although that's only my experience). After a few days they get over it and all is well. I am sure to keep all mares (no matter the size) out of sight. I feel bad for the stallions that live a life of solitary confinement. That's what they do to people in prison as a punishment, and horses are herd animals. I believe they need a friend and buddy to hang with and without mares around as a whole they are much happier to have a buddy than be living alone. JMHO.
 
Through a strange set of circumstances, I ended up buying back the first mini I ever owned, a gelding, and as it was during winter, i put him in with our stallion, whom he already knew.

They spent a lovely winter together, but as soon as a hint of spring came around, the stallion started playing a bit too rough for my liking, so we separated them.

I expect to be able to put them back together for this winter, but only time will tell whether we can actually do this or not. We would not let either hurt the other if we could possbley help it.

My ideal would be to have the stallion running with his mares as nature intended, but as he is still showing and driving, I won't risk his being injured.

I am caught between wanting the mares to teach him how to be a gentleman (which I am sure they would do!!
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Unless you have a really tough mare there is NO way you can rely on mares to "teach manners" to a stallion. Colt maybe, stallions , no. All the hormones rise in both, Mares are subservient during the Summer as they wish to get in foal. A nasty stallion, or a mannerless stallion will just bully the life out of them, and they will let him!! Either that or one dominant mare will kick the bejeebers out of him and no mares will get in foal!!

I do not have to tell you, Leanne, what I think of your latest enterprise, so I am not going to!!
 
I wintered a gelding and young stallion together one winter. They both had some marks in the spring so I don't do that anymore. I winter the stallions with one of their mares. This usually works real well. I no longer put the gelding with the mare band because the geldings got too fat. The geldings winter together on a mud lot and do just fine.

I would suggest pasturing one group of horses during the day and the other group at night.
 
I hope to keep DunIT with a couple geldings (Jack & Skipper). I'm certain that will work fine at least for awhile as DunIT is only 9mos now. When Destiny comes here, I hope to keep him with Sunny (gelding) and Bacardi-Pal (soon to be gelded). Hopefully, that will work, too. If not, then they will have to stay in separate small paddocks. I'd just feel a lot better about their lives if they could be with other horses. We have set it up so that neither lot where stallions will be shares a line with the mares but our place isn't big and they will be able to see the mares, so will just have to play it by ear.

For what it is worth, Derby and Lonesome lived together as stallions within sight of mares and with another stallion up until they were 4yo and 5yo this spring, when I had them gelded. However, one of the many factors in choosing to geld them was I was not sure they could continue to be with each other safely. As Lonesome has matured, he has become very dominate and I worried they'd have fought this past season if left stallions. NOW they are at my house and in with four of my mares and much to my surprise, the boys are the boss of the girls... I figured Lou would remain in charge but that hasn't been the case.
 
Their personalities play a huge role in compatability. They may winter fine and come spring -- wow, like different animals. Weather, mares, hormones, other "competition" can cause a change in attitudes --- so, if it works in the beginning just be on watch for any changes and be prepared to quickly move them. Sometimes, the size of the enclosure makes a difference, also.

Sometimes I find allowing them to fenceline together works better
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Hey, they often self-exercise more, also.
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This gives them some amount of herd/buddy time. And, as Libby, I have a couple stallions who can only be kept with a mare or two for the winter, not another boy.

Quite trial and error for each animal and farm.
 
We keep our stallions and geldings together. The stallions are young, 1 and 2. The 4 yr old gelding is actually the ruler of the roost. The other geldings are yearlings. It works great. The pasture with these guys in does NOT have access to the mares. When they are next to the mares the 2 year old stallion will stay fairly near the mares and everyone else stays away. No fights but we will be watching closely this year in case it would change.

jennifer
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I have my stallion and gelding together in the winter. Works great for me but my stallion is such a honey! Personalities make a world of difference.
 
Our geldings and young stallions live together year round. Keep in mind though, that this is a large herd (from 15 to 30 depending on who's off doing what) and in a large pasture. Getting along is always harder in a smaller area with less potential friends!

Our breeding stallions go out in the winter for a couple months. Our older stallion would like to kill any of our geldings (with one exception) during the summer, but in the winter he gets along fine with them, though he stays in and babysits through the winter now. And our little stud is, well, little, and we have a lot of tough old geldings, we were a little concerned about him and watched pretty close at first, but he fits in great, he just seems like a tinier member of the hitch out there!
 
rabbitsfizz Posted Today, 05:30 AM   Unless you have a really tough mare there is NO way you can rely on mares to "teach manners" to a stallion. Colt maybe, stallions , no. All the hormones rise in both, Mares are subservient during the Summer as they wish to get in foal. A nasty stallion, or a mannerless stallion will just bully the life out of them, and they will let him!! Either that or one dominant mare will kick the bejeebers out of him and no mares will get in foal!!

I do not have to tell you, Leanne, what I think of your latest enterprise, so I am not going to!!
What enterprise?

I guess i might try to put him out in the pasture with the other boys tommarow night some with me standing close. He isnt at all agressive and i walked him around some today with all the guys in the pasture. He didnt pay attention to them really! I dont know if thats a good thing or bad. Since most you guys dont have any trouble with pasturing together, i will probaly put them out together tommarow (with close supervision!).

I dont think we will really have to worry about the mare being around the stallion ..im only planning on breeding about every 2 years. Not every year or anything. Probaly this year and then maybe in about a two years we will try it agian ..nothing serious. I will probaly put the stud out with the geldings one day, then keep the stud in and put the mare out w/ the geldings the next and so on and so on.

Thanks guys ..you helped allot. I didnt know if i was being crazy about even thinking about doing that or if it was sane. Thanks

Leeana

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