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Is anyone else somewhat "concerned" about this trend?
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stormo41
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Well I think it is wonderful and hardly see it as a trend, how long ago was it that Angela and Brad adopted there child? it was a while back and onw more cleb adopting a child does not make it a trend for me. cleberties are more driven by world events these days believe it or not. I think she really wants this child and will give him a good life, she also seems like the person who would let him pratice his language and religion at his own will.
If i ever have childern they will not be my own I will adopt.
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If i ever have childern they will not be my own I will adopt.
-Vanessa
l just watched her on Ophra and he sure is a sweety pie. She did mention some of the kids don't even live to see there fifth birthday. l think it's a chance for a little boy to have a better shot at life nothing wrong with that.
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Well speak away......my grandmother was adopted back in the hush hush days as well......................times have changed.................in the US it can take years to adopt and then it can be years before you are certain the child will stay in your home and some long lost relation doesn't come along and claim the child.
The politics of adoption in the US have deteriorated to a political nightmare. IN my hypothetical perfect world all the children in the US would find loving homes forever and so would the children in other countries sadly the whole adoption scene is a mass of money, politics, and heartbreak...the real losers are all the children still waiting for someone to call family.
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I have adopted two children Internationally and been involved in the adoption community for many years. I have friends that have adopted domestically (infants), through the foster care system (infants-teens) and Internationally (infants-teens) and feel every family should do what is best for that family. ALL CHILDREN NEED HOMES, not just the ones here. We took the classes required by our state, and several extras that were recommended and in the end, decided adopting from foster care was just not right for our family at that time. We had two children already in the home and besides risking our heart, we would be risking our children's heart (if the foster child was removed from our home) and their health and well being if a foster child abused them because we were not told of their background. This happens, we couldn't risk it. It is something we may choose to do in the future when our children are older or grown.
We chose International because that is what was right for our family and where God led us. The children in other countries if not adopted may die before they are old enough to leave the orphanage, or when kicked out at a young age (some as young as 9) are forced to turn to crime, prositution or they starve. Most are never given an education.
Contrary to other statements, we are not left wing liberals, we are conservative Christians, as are many, many adoptive families. We adopted because we wanted to. We wanted more children and wanted to give a home to children who would otherwise not have one. We have biological children and could have chose to have more, but chose to adopt instead. However, we feel we are the ones given an amazing gift from God, not the other way around, as our children can only be describe as incredible blessings! They have taught us about the true meaning of life.
As to the Madonna situation, well, I don't understand why she chose a country that has laws against International adoption for starters when there are several African countries that have adoption programs. I also don't like that she donated money and stipulated that is be used to build schools and teach her religion of Kabalah, but that is my opinion. Angelina pulled her own strings when adopting Maddox, since the US was not allowing any Cambodian children US Visa's at that time while they were investigating some problems in the country and system. She simply took her child to another country until she could get his US Visa. Not illegal, just not possible for most families due to money. She then adopted Zahara from Africa after trying to adopt a little girl from Russia that fell through. This was all before Brad.
I do not slam people who have adopted domestically or through foster care, I applaud them, just the same as if they adopted Internationally. Adoption is an amazing thing, definitely NOT second choice or second best.
Vicki
We chose International because that is what was right for our family and where God led us. The children in other countries if not adopted may die before they are old enough to leave the orphanage, or when kicked out at a young age (some as young as 9) are forced to turn to crime, prositution or they starve. Most are never given an education.
Contrary to other statements, we are not left wing liberals, we are conservative Christians, as are many, many adoptive families. We adopted because we wanted to. We wanted more children and wanted to give a home to children who would otherwise not have one. We have biological children and could have chose to have more, but chose to adopt instead. However, we feel we are the ones given an amazing gift from God, not the other way around, as our children can only be describe as incredible blessings! They have taught us about the true meaning of life.
As to the Madonna situation, well, I don't understand why she chose a country that has laws against International adoption for starters when there are several African countries that have adoption programs. I also don't like that she donated money and stipulated that is be used to build schools and teach her religion of Kabalah, but that is my opinion. Angelina pulled her own strings when adopting Maddox, since the US was not allowing any Cambodian children US Visa's at that time while they were investigating some problems in the country and system. She simply took her child to another country until she could get his US Visa. Not illegal, just not possible for most families due to money. She then adopted Zahara from Africa after trying to adopt a little girl from Russia that fell through. This was all before Brad.
I do not slam people who have adopted domestically or through foster care, I applaud them, just the same as if they adopted Internationally. Adoption is an amazing thing, definitely NOT second choice or second best.
Vicki
I don't have a problem with them actually adopting these children. I think it's wonderful that they are getting families and the opportunities that they will have will be endless! What I have a problem with is the fact that they are all doing it illegally and worst of all, messing it up for everyone else trying to adopt. Madonna is not the only one who illegally adopted, Angelina and Brad did too. They "picked out" their children whichis a no no from the countries they adopted from they also skipped all the homestudy stuff and just sort of "forgot about" Angelina's drug record. If she were just a normal person, she wouldn't have been allowed to adopt because of that. The only way they get away with it is because they pay the orphanages and the governement lots-o-$. However, that messes up the whole system and many countries are becoming harder to, if not impossible to adopt from if they aren't shutting the programs down entirely.
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Oh dear.........I knew this would be an issue..........That was my bit of resentment initially too.. The folks (celebrities) are able to adopt in the poor counties because they can pay more money for it.
Well, people have a point. The main problem in the U.S. is that to adopt a child of your general ethnic heritage who is not walking or talking yet, is basically asking for either a minimum 5 year wait or a miracle. Plus, there is the expense of doling out about the same amount it would cost to put a child through college even before you have the little one in your nursery! Oh, and let's not forget the background checks, the health checks, the psychology checks, and lastly the inspection of your house! (No one ever does all that when a welfare mom gets pregnant again and asks for more money..... hmmmm.....)
Do I sound a bit bitter or resentful? Yep. Actually, I'm not as upset at the celebs as I am with the whole U.S. adoption system. My parents went through it. And Larry and I have gone through it. It's stupid and it stinks.
There are so MANY children out there who need stable loving parents, and there are so many childless couples out there that would do back flips for a child.....but because of all of the stupid rules and red tape that they never meet.......it makes me sick.
We were one of the lucky ones in the end.........but the system made sure they had our pound of flesh before that last form was signed.....believe me.
MA
Well, people have a point. The main problem in the U.S. is that to adopt a child of your general ethnic heritage who is not walking or talking yet, is basically asking for either a minimum 5 year wait or a miracle. Plus, there is the expense of doling out about the same amount it would cost to put a child through college even before you have the little one in your nursery! Oh, and let's not forget the background checks, the health checks, the psychology checks, and lastly the inspection of your house! (No one ever does all that when a welfare mom gets pregnant again and asks for more money..... hmmmm.....)
Do I sound a bit bitter or resentful? Yep. Actually, I'm not as upset at the celebs as I am with the whole U.S. adoption system. My parents went through it. And Larry and I have gone through it. It's stupid and it stinks.
There are so MANY children out there who need stable loving parents, and there are so many childless couples out there that would do back flips for a child.....but because of all of the stupid rules and red tape that they never meet.......it makes me sick.
We were one of the lucky ones in the end.........but the system made sure they had our pound of flesh before that last form was signed.....believe me.
MA
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