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It is interesting that you have said that Suzie doesn't seem to be following her usual long sleeping sessions - she has just gone down as I am watching, but she doesn't look too comfortable, keeps thinking about laying flat out, but soon sits up again.

OK so presuming she's not in foaling mode, why do you think she might have changed her usual nightly format? She's been clipped!! She tried laying down as usual and had to get up - not used to feeling the straw against her SKIN!! So having tried the 'lay down' several times, she decided to try to stay standing, but at last she has had to give in as she needs to rest her little legs, and after several tries at going flat out, but not liking the feel of the straw against her clipped side, she again has given in and is now flat out!! Oooop's no she's not, she's up sternal again!
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LOL!!

Poor Suzie!! LOL!! Guess by now you will all realise that I'm not in favour of clipping mares. Oh I can see exactly why one would do it and I caan agree with that thinking. But think of the thousands and thousands of foals over time who have been born and have fed successfully off hairy mares. Of course if it means that just one foal is saved from choking, then clipping may be worth it, but what I cannot understand is, if you are saying the foal might get a load of hair in its mouth when feeding, then why do you just clip a mares 'tummy' region. A new born foal, when first searching for the teat/milk bar, will be searching and nibbling all up the mares neck, round her shoulders, between her front legs, under her girth, then, if it reaches the back end, it will be biting and sucking on her stifle, along up and down her bck legs, even round under her tail. We have all watched as the foal totally misses the little 'gap' in front of its dams back leg (the area that has been nicely clipped LOL!!) Within 24 hours our foal has feeding down to an art and dives straight under its Momma, not opening its mouth until its little nose brushes against the teat!

LOL!! Just thought that I would start a lively discussion to keep you all occupied while you are Suzie watching!! So the question up for debate is -- if you are going to clip a mare to protect the foal, then I say that the clip should 'cover' the underside of her jaw, at least half way up and along her neck, across her shoulders, between her front legs, all of her body to at least half way up her sides, inside her back legs, across her gaskin and buttock and round under her tail. Oh and half way down all legs to the knees and hocks!!
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Ok throw in your opinions, including your reasons and experiences.
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Glad to see that Suzie has decided that the funny feeling of straw against her 'bald' bits is not going to stop her doing her usual long snoozes! (now 1.57 am and at last she has been down for half an hour!)
 
I'm sorry Anna I realized you prob wouldn't like if
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I sent you an email... Sorry I thought it was the best thing to do oh n I clipped her neck a bit too just to throw that in there, I also trimmed her front leg hair n her back legs are already almost back to summer coat due to butt rubbing.

Againt I'm sorry
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going back to sleep now...
 
For goodness sake Cassie, please dont apologise!! You must do whatever you feel is right for you and Suzie.
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You do have to realise that I'm old (and pretty useless most of the time according to my family!), which means that I have old fashioned ideas, plus I'm a person who hates change of any sort (even when I can see the reason for it). I wouldn't like to live in the dark ages - love my TV and laptop too much! But right now I am living in an old mobile home in the garden, overlooking some of my fields, to give me some peace away from the noisy hords of people who seem to have decended upon our house of late. I do have electric and I do have a loo and a very small gas hob to cook on, plus of course I have M and 3 of the cats, and I'm as happy as a sand boy!! I dont do towns and crowds, they exhaust me - I would be quite happy as a recluse (aiming for it LOL!!), so you see why I'm old fashioned and have old fashioned ideas. LOL!!

So I asked for a debate/resons, not apologies - also have you not heard that there is no need for apologies amongst friends coz friends love each other and respect the fact that they will always have different views on things and life - thats what makes having 'proper' friends so interesting!
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So I asked for a debate/resons, not apologies - also have you not heard that there is no need for apologies amongst friends coz friends love each other and respect the fact that they will always have different views on things and life - thats what makes having 'proper' friends so interesting!
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Very well said. Something I believe in fully
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I personally do not clip. Not against it nor for it. Just have never had a reason to do it.

We have a moderate climate. I plan babies to arrive mid May to early July. I had one girl

show up early August and she came out looking like she had been body clipped in comparison

to her sisters.

Mom's, themselves, have pretty much taken care of their own shedding by that time so it's never

been an issue.

I think there is trends in clipping - shaving tummies could well be one of them. I hadn't

noticed it, going on, till a few years ago.

I think in some climates or early babies it possibly could help - just don't have any experience

needing to do it, so can't really debate for or against it.
 
Anna, I do think people need to clip alot more than just the belly if their mare is in the middle of shedding...like perhaps Suzi is. I have not seen her but just know when mine are shedding nothing is safe from flying loose hair!! Ive even seen it up in the birds nests around the property. Now granted this is my first baby here but Cam did suck and still is sucking, chewing nibbles all over PN. nibbling on her sides her face, legs. If this was Spring I would have made sure to do a total clip. But b/c of the season there was no need.

I know I put human emotions and feelings on my animals and they may not even give a crap but I hate getting hair in my food and just figure horses would hate it too. And i think of fur balls are not good in kitties bellies so they are probablly not good in foal bellies either. Medically i have never heard of a foal getting sick or ill but I would have to think its possible and why take the chance.

Cassie, no need to apologize silly. Marty, Diane and Anna always stressed to me to do what works best for me....Suzi is your horse after all and you will go insane even trying to do what everyone suggests. Go read the water/foal thread and you will see how different everyone does things. Your a great Mom to Suzi and you are going to be awesome w/your little filly too!!Hugs Miss Cassi!!
 
OK a few pics for you all.

Taken a couple of weeks ago when the mares were still on the 25 acres of our 'dell' fields. I was walking my usual route round the edge of our 3 winter/long grass fields, alongside the fence to the dell fields. M and two of the cats came with me - our object was to walk quietly and spy on any mares that we spotted, doing a quick check without them seeing me and coming to the 'weak/grotty/old' fence to speak to me. Well that was the idea!!

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Ooooop's - spotted!!

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I beat a hasty retreat!!
 
Great pics Anna, your place is amazing! You do make me chuckle when you say you are old, OLD people don't chat with their friends on the computer!

I clip if the mares are still furry, my girls coat is seriously long in the winter and I worry about the foals swallowing it. If it is warm enough I will take it all off but if it is still cold I do tummy area. Also bc believe it or not I am allergic to horse hair and I smend alot of time down there checking udders and milk. Jmo
 
Haha great pictures Anna you have to love the Welsh countryside..im with you all the way on the shopping n crowds thing,,i dont do either it stresses me out big time..its as much as i can do to get around Tesco's without falling out with someone that cant drive a shopping trolley (cart for the people in the US) straight down a 6ft wide isle
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..shopping online is deff the way to go..as for clipping I wouldnt have a clue so I will leave that to all you experts
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I dont have that problem..Maxine would deff be a tripple G cup if she wore a bra..she still looks like a cow from behind
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Dinky has no problem finding her udder!!
 
Cassie...i hinted on darla's thread, but thought that I would drop one here as well...I still havent seen Suzie's two possible fellas!
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oh haha sorry Jess, here they are
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Gift horse Blue Mystery.jpeg Gift Horse Blue Mystery, not a very good picture he also has blue eyes,

Gift horse Silver Star.jpeg Gift horse Silver Star
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the pinto is 33# and the Silver taffy is 34#
 
hmmm, not really sure lol I don't want the foal to be really tall and I do love the markings on Blue Mystery so I guess him, but Carlo (silver star) is very handsome as well and I do like him
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You could get a real range of colour/pattern possibilities with Blue Mystery as the sire. You could use part of his name "mystery" in the foals name too LOL As its been quite the mystery
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I guess time MAY tell. If the foal is silver dapple like Suzie then i guess its not going to be a real giveaway. Hopefully if its by the pinto, then it will be pinto - just to answer the questions "who's ya daddy" LOL
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Anna I love the pics of your place, it looks lovely!

On the clipping thing I don't bother on a lightly shedding mare. I'm considering Ashanti as she is heavily shedding, you can't touch her without getting a fistful of hair! I'm regularly running my shedding blade over her and pulling out hair by hand and if it thins it out then I won't clip.
 
haha yeah, and all of Blue Mystery's foals have had blue eyes, so if the foal has blue eyes we have a pretty good idea hehe

if Blue Mystery is the daddy I plan on using Mystery in its show name
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I don't really mind who the dad is I like both of them
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I just hope its cute and has nice markings hehe oh n a filly PLEASE HEHE
 
Awwww... I was already leaning toward wanting blue mystery to be the "baby daddy" but now I definitely want him! I think blue eyes are too cute!
 
I agree with what both Diane and Bree with the shedding thing, but she was SO FLUFFY and was shedding SO bad!! have you guys not seen me in there brushing her and having to clean the brush every 5 seconds? it was the right decision to make for the time and I don't plan on letting a mare foal with such a heavy coat next time, but because I know nothing of how she was bred or ANYTHING it makes it so hard especially as it is my first foal
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but it's done and for the better I THINK lol still not totally convinced yet.

Bree whats a shedding blade?? is it different to a curry comb?
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It's a length of metal with little blunt teeth on it: Here is a pic of it 'folded'

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I find them very good at grabbing the hair as you run it through the coat, but some of my horses hate it (like Tinker) while others love it (luckily like Ashanti!)

I love blue eyes, got three of them here! Painted Lady has 1 while Fantasy has 2.
 
ooh thanks I might have to invest in one of those I think hehe

my other mare Penny has two blue eys
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so cute!! p1.jpg

not a very good pic but meet Penny
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she still has a bit more condition to get before I class her as good condition lol but she was very poor when I first got her so she is improving
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