Price this horse

[lyn_j]

Lets say you have a horse and you want to sell it. I will describe a horse and you give two prices that you would advertise it for if it was yours.

4 year old stallion, AMHA AMHR 34 inches, palamino and white pinto. HOF in roadster, shown at nationals in 7 classes, 7 top tens including 4 top 5. Loads clips trims easilyvery good natured, easily handled by youth and adults. no vices, easy keeper.

What would you price him at if he was yours in a perfect world and in todays economy.

indicate if you show or not.

Lyn

 

[Leeana]

We'll i'd offer a gelding discount...i normally offer a gelding discount on all the "boys" i offer...

I know what horse you talking about, and i know about his previous training ext ext and have seen this horse show in person. I think he is a nice boy. I think he is priced right as he is, considering the economy at the moment.

 

[lyn_j]

Leeana, thats cheating! lol

Price the described horse as if you owned him Put down two numbers.!

Lyn

 

[lildrummer]

I know the horse well. He is the most gentel stallion possible. He is a wonderful horse! I do not sell, so do not know an asking price. I just know he is a wonderful beautiful horse, and know he is well trained.

Lildrummer

 

[ClickMini]

Lyn, if I felt he could definitely measure in at an AMHA show, I would have the guy priced at about $6500 in today's market. If I felt he would not measure in, probably more like $4500. In a perfect world, an AMHA/AMHR show horse like you described should be worth between $10,000 and 15,000. If he was competitive in single pleasure, add more (lots more). I think those titles should mean a little something! Geez, when I had Flirt in training last year I spent about $8k - 10k just to have her in training and show her FOR ONE YEAR! You can bet she would not be sold for a penny less that $10k, if I would ever even sell her!

As you know, I do show, and I place a pretty high premium on a nice horse that can win and is already trained. I personally have always bought foals and brought them up to be trained.

 

[Katiean]

If he were my horse I would know what he looked like beyond a discription. I would know his personallity and his pedigree. I could not price a horse just on his discription and show record. Could you include a pic and pedigree info?

 

[lyn_j]

Thanks Amy, I think you saw me show him last year. I took 6th in single pleasure ladies to drive. I have been told by several people that I had him underpriced including the man who trained him. Yes I have about 7k in training but was told by a few that is a maintainance cost and should not be taken into consideration on his purchase price. Im happy to know that people who do show at the level that this horse competes understand his value.

I cant believe over 80 people have read this but only 5 were willing to post. Thanks for giving your opinion.

Lyn

 

[ruffian]

I don't know the horse. But here's my opinon for what it's worth.

Clickmini hit the nail on the head - he's right at the top for AMHA. Many AMHA only breeders would not choose him because of his height. If he's 34 at the last hair, that puts him out of the international market. They want 34" at the withers. Also, it could also be iffy to measure him in every time.

You don't mention his conformation - is he halter material? Is he a proven stallion? What is his pedigree? I know you don't show or drive the papers, but they still count. What classes at nationals? All roadster?

I don't see the market being as rosy as she does - I'd say $2,500 tops and good luck. More if he could drop down to pleasure, and less with a gelding option.

 

[lyn_j]

Here is his pic, his pedigree contains Hemlock Brook, Exported stallion PHP Midas Touch is his maternal grandsire. His sire is a tripple HOF horse Images Little Super Star, his grandmother is the shetland mare Michigans TV Image HOF. He has a sellar pedigree. He has many Sr Chamoionships in halter and a few grands. We focused on his driving more.

so, even those that dont show or are new to the breed, take a stab at how you would price him if he were in your back yard instead of mine.

eddited to add, one of his top tens was in youth pleasure and I drove him in ladies single pleasure to a 6th place. Yes he is right at 34.

 

[Genie]

I have looked at your post a couple of times and because we want everything close to 30 inches, and our stallions definitely have to be as close to 30 as possible, it just means I would not be interested in that beautiful boy at any price.

He's lovely but just way too tall for us.

It seemed like you hoped people would give an opinion so that's mine, for what it's worth.

I know the market I am "gearing for" and I just resist all temptation no matter how wonderful.

Many people in Southwestern Ontario seem to be changing direction to the Shetlands and taller miniatures, and that's okay....it's just not my direction.

Sadly the boys are going very poorly around here right now and at a sale last weekend the average price was around 200.00.

We were very dissappointed to see the type of buyers that attended, and thankfully I had no horses there to sell.....nor did we buy...

 

[jbrat]

Todays market is so bad. I'd keep him and enjoy him till the market turns around and/or price him exceptionally high, and be extremely cautious as to where he goes. As with any animals and with many people the novelty or newness wears off and the quality care deteriorates and unless your sure the owners will do everything to keep the animals well being as a top priority I'd just keep him.

. I can't part with any of them they become part of the family. And I'm so afriad of what will happen to them down the road.

It'll will kill me if I ever hit the point where I would have to sell out. I'll sell my car first and drive the mini's to town.

Sorry I know that doesn't answer your question, but I've seen some horses with exceptional bloodlines, training, and show records go for as low as or lower than 300.00, and on the other hand I've seen grade mini's go for about the same and down to $50. ANd I know of a mini with issues but he drives and they want 1500. for him. He's been for sale for a year and has a locking stifle (which isn't too bad and I'm sure isn't announced to potential buyers).

It really depends on the individual circumstances of the buyer and seller.

 

[EAD Minis]

I think free is good...of course sold to canada adn living on my farm would suit me just fine

. haha Just kidding

He is gorgeous!! I have a sad disease of selling everything WAY underpriced...im going to have to find a cure soon or else I wont last long. Nice horse though!! Worth every penny you get for him (and probably more)

The thing that I can see as stated before about his price being lower is the 34" height. He is on the border and as a AMHA breeder(If i was) I think I would be steering clear of him just becuase he is on the line.

Sorry no help just wanted to oooh an aaah over him

Many people in Southwestern Ontario seem to be changing direction to the Shetlands and taller miniatures, and that's okay....it's just not my direction

I agree, I almost went into the shetland craze but decided I much rather have the little double reg. ones. Theres somthing special about a correct tiny horse. Gives me a chance to drool over every one elses shetlands

The sales and around hear are sadly not doing so well, I find much of the time in Ontario (not all the time) people are buying horses in different areas like teh states or other parts of Canada.So I can see your guy selling pretty well hear just considering what every one is looking for. As for the market, pretty bad right now

 

[Reble]

I have to agree with Genie, we want our horses small. Smaller the better.

Market is low, it depends on how much you want to sell and find a good home.

 

[kaykay]

Welll my price would depend on how fast I want to sell him and if he has any foals on the ground. If I was buying a potential breeding stallion and he had no foals on the ground that would really reduce what I was willing to pay.

Proven breeding stallion with National Top Tens 3500-5000.00

National top ten stallion with no foals 2500-3500

 

[Katiean]

He is a very pretty boy. I think in pricing a horse they have to look good when the prospective buyer comes to see it. Is he kept in show condition all the time? I went to the farm of a bigger breeder and they are selling out all of their horses and having an open house. Top blood lines and top show records, but, not one of the horses were reciving care. They were fed but feet were not trimmed and they were all shaggy(it was summer). people were turning around from looking at the horses and smerked when told the prices. I think if the horses had looked like their pictures when we were looking they would have gotten a whole different responce. As for your boy, I would not look at him as a stud because of his height and I show only AMHA. My horses are A/R but I don't show R. I think as a show gelding if young children can compeat with him in todays market $2,500-$3,500. In a better market maybe $4,500. The only reason I would be saying those prices is his training and if a kid can handle him. The value is in his training and handle ability. If he had a twin that was a hateful horse and not trained I would say $1,000-$1,500.

 

[wildoak]

Okay, I'll bite

. Based on what I see locally and prices at World, I would put him somewhere between $4000 and $6500 assuming he will measure in, with the high end being World prices. The old saw, a horse is worth what someone will pay for them, is so true - depends on who sees him and is looking at the moment. I saw finished horses advertised at World higher - much higher in some instances - but I see them for less in the local market. In a perfect world, yes he should be worth $10,000.

These answers may be different after the election too.......

Jan

 

[lyn_j]

Thanks Jan, I know you appreciate a driving horse! We will have to see what happens with the economy in the future, that is certain!

Lyn

 

[LaVern]

If I was buying Lyn, and maybe if I save some of these Express fillies. Perfect size and most importantly the neck set. If they can't tuck put em on the truck - no -I didn't mean that.

 

[Field-of-Dreams]

I love him! Size is cool by me, we like the bigger ones and he is right at perfect! I'd definitely add him to MY barn!

We show, and as is, IMHO he SHOULD go for $4000- 6000. Will he? Probably not... people are pinched bad right now.

Lucy

 

[JWC sr.]

Wow am I glad we live in Texas, to hear some of you folks talk about it the price of a good horse is next to nothing in your part of the country.

One of our mares which was in her second year of training in country pleasure sold for $10,000 at the world show. She placed 8th or 9th in her class at worlds in a very competitive class and is not really finished yet.

Additionally a halter only 3 year old General Patton grand son of ours sold for $3,500.00. And a Rio De Oro Daughter (yearling) sold for 7,500.00 also.

With that being said if I owned your stallion, with all the training you have put into him and the cost of that training. I think you could expect to get 4 - 10,000 for him in whatever part of the country you are in. But you may have to market him outside your area. I would probally also offer him as a gelding at a discounted price also as that is pretty standard at our farm.

He appears to be a pretty guy, but does not have from what I can see to have the traits that are winning in the halter ring (Super Refinement, snakey neck etc.), but as a driver he is sure accomplished.

My advice would be don't give him away for nothing, it is really hard to find and/or produce good driving horses.

Good Luck with him