Silver Dilution

[kayla221444]

Ok so me and mom have been arguing! LOL

Last year we had a silver bay filly born, out of a palomino mare and a black pinto stallion

Anyway so shes been arguing with me, saying that the sire is the one who must carry the silver gene, because mom was tested and didn't carry it (but that was NOT by animal genetics) it was by the other place where you could do $40 for everything! Has anyone else got a wrong result from testing before??

But my thing is. If the sire is really black, he would BE SILVER and not BLACK like he appears to be!! RIGHT??

but silver could hide on mom because shes palomino!! :arg! :arg!

Here are pics of the stallion

Black RIGHT?? WELL MAYBE in the last pic he looks a little silverish, but i think he was just sun bleached.

Mom is going to be getting the mare re-tested for silver, although she swears up and down their is no way that the mom carries it! Because she is going by the colors on her reg. papers, of the mares dam and sire, which say her dam was a brown and sire was chestnut...well obviously thats not true because you can't get palomino out of brown and chestnut, the brown was probably really a silver!! :arg! :arg!

Sorry I needed to vent...but she doesn't understand what I mean, about if he carried silver he would be silver not black

 

[love_casper]

The sire certainly doesn't look silver to me... and it would easily hide on a palomino. Let us know if you get her re-tested what the results are. If she's for sure negative, perhaps sire is smokey silver black? Doubting it, but it had to come from somewhere!

 

[Minimor]

From what I've heard, that $40 all-inclusive test has given wrong results on several horses.

The black pinto does look a little too black to be a silver. As for the palomino, it's entirely possible that the brown parent is actually a smokey black, and the chestnut parent could be a chestnut that is carrying silver, or it could be a silver bay.

 

[Sue_C.]

Yes, the mare could be a true pally hiding silver, or, she could actually be a mis-diagnosed silver bay...OR...the sire, IMO, could be a silver black. Looking at his pictures, he does seem quite dark for a silver, but I have seen them almost black...and his mane and tail arte not truly black are they...they are a silver colour, which makes me suspect he is carrying silver.

The mare could still be a pally, even out of a "brown" and chestnut IF the "brown" is indeed a smokey black.

 

[Loess Hills]

Remember that the Silver Dilution is a dominant trait. It only takes one parent to carry and pass on the gene. And it only alters the color on black-based horses. If the dam is a palomino she will not show silver, but could still be carrying it.

 

So, for a $25 fee, you could test the mare for Silver Dilution and if she is negative, then you know that the sire carries the gene!

 

[rabbitsfizz]

Looking at all those pictures of the sire.....hmm.... I would not say for absolute definite that no he does not carry Silver.

If he also had Cream, for example, and it was inhibiting the Silver, it is possible.

But the easiest, and the simplest explanation is that the mare is carrying it, as this is totally possible, and it is always best to go first for the simplest answer.

If she really is - for Silver I would test the stallion for Silver and Cream!

 

[Jill]

Test him. His color is really not all that far off from my smokey silver black stallion, Destiny! In that last shot especially, his dark color is real close to the color of Destiny's body, and his forelock and part of his tail are the same color as Destiny's.

 

[tagalong]

I agree with Jill - the sire looks to have silver to me. He is coloured the same as a silver black mare we had here for many years - her mane and tail never were very light, just sort of frosted like that stallion's. IMO he is a silver black. And then the dam could be hiding silver as well... any photos of her? I have seen some horses registered as palomino or sorrel/flaxen mane & tail that were actually light silver bays....

 

[kayla221444]

The mare is deff. a pally. And we are getting her tested, and we can't test the stallion we lost him last August