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I've been looking into getting a neck sweat for one of my minis for next show season, but am unsure of which one to get. I'm looking for one that the horse would just wear while working, not 24/7. Is there one of this style that you like and could recommend to me??

Any help would be great as I'm really lost!
 
DITTO,

any recomendations? I placed an order with Ozark mountain and got a neck sweat 4 inch. I think you just have to make sure you have a berrier between the neoprine , and like anything you put on a horse , keep a watchful eye. But are the sweats for the throat lach area better than the ones that you can wrap along the whole neck, or does it just depend on where they need a little shaping?
 
I much prefer neck wraps over sweats, they just seem to work and stay better. Ive got most of my wraps from Ozark ..then for throat sweats (norm put these under the wrap), i like the ones at Ozark too.

Did you say your neck sweat was 4" ? That sounds more like a throat sweat ...
 
I like the fleece lined sweats that can stay wrapped, BUT I have a stallion who destroys them so he wears a neoprene sweat when we work.

I have found yearlings here also play hard and pull the wraps off of each other if two are turned out together so they get ruined if I use them. (especially the boys).
 
There are numerous sweating products available and many work just fine. Being an Amateur exhibitor, I wanted my horses to look the best they could and have the best results from the products I used. And since I'm not a professional and its not my only job to care for the horses, wanted to be able to do it the quickest and easiest way possible. You soon discover that in order for your horse to look its best... you must be consistent and willing to put the time in it takes to prepare your horse to be competitive in the show ring. It does take time to wrap and unwrap, clean off the sweats and brush the horse every day, but the results are worth it all.

Now the neck is not the ONLY part of horse the judges look at... but it's one of the FIRST parts that everyone including the judges will notice. I liked some products and not others and I wanted to feel I could safely use the products I purchased so I ended up developing (with a past trainer friend) my own sweat system and chose the materials I knew were quality and would serve well for many years. Several trainers and farms now endorse my product. But I'm not meaning for this to be a pitch for my product.... I just wanted to share some information from what I've learned.

I feel differently about "how" and "when" my horses neck should sweat. I believe that when a horse is exercising it should be able to move freely without the restriction of garments and the pores of the skin and coat able to breath (promotes a healthy coat) and not be covered up. I guarantee that if you exercise your horse, brush them out and then wrap them with their sweats... you will have more sweat then you know what to do with. I don't even do it that way all the time especially during the winter or off season if the horse needs to have sweating during that time. My horses wear their sweats (all are fleece lined) all night long and only have them off for ventilation every day while out of there stalls for turn out, and then one night off a week for washing the sweats. Time in the sweats is about 16-18 hours... and then they have time to run, buck, roll and play freely the rest of the time during turnout. When those sweats are taken off in the morning... they are wet if not soaked and that's from just standing, eating and sleeping in the stall.

You must guard your horse against bacteria on the skin from dirty sweat and lack of air circulation and caution taken to not wrap the throatlatch too tightly or you could have a swollen horse head in the morning. The horse's neck and the sweats are sprayed and misted with antiseptic daily and the sweats hung to dry out (in our heated tack room) before putting them back on. I have never found the need to use neck sweat potions for the desired results I wanted.

It IS tough for youngsters who are stalled together or kept in paddocks in groups... but I have sprayed fly spray on the sweats and/or used ivory bar soap swiped over it to make it not so tasty to chew on and has worked.

I have had results of up to 6" sweated off of a senior stallions neck and have used my sweats on all of our show horses over the past 6-7 years after creating my system with fabulous results and Grand Champion winners. I hope this information shows at least one way to do it.
 
If you don't mind my asking, what type of antiseptic spray are you spraying on the sweats before you hang them to dry. I haven't done this, because I thought it may be harsh and break down the material of the sweat, but if you know of something that works well Id love to know what to use.
 
The antiseptic I use is plain ole mouthwash. I buy the store brand instead of name brands to get the better pricing. I dilute it about half with water and I like using the blue color.... especially if using on white hair. Probably no real issue about that... but if there is any coloring in the product... I'd rather have a blue tint to any white hair than green or gold... LOL I put and mix it in a regular spray bottle. I've never encounter any reactions from any horse from using mouthwash. I figure if it is safe enough to use full strength inside my own mouth... its safe enough to use on the thick skin of the horse, especially diluted. I've used it for at least 6 years and on at least 30 different show horses over those years. I can't say that that really protects my horses from bacteria.... but at least I believe so and my horses have never had an issue or skin problem due to sweating. I can't speak for other company's products or the materials they use to make them... but I haven't noticed any break down of the materials I make them with using this method. I have some of the very first ones I made and still using them.

I just mist the sweats before hanging and spray or rub on the horse's neck and then brush it in with a soft brush... helps for any itchyness too. Before doing any sweating, I clip the hair down with a 10 blade with the growth of the hair in the winter and keep their bridle paths clipped. That way bacteria is less likely to get trapped next to the skin under a heavy coat. Obviously, if that is done in areas or extreme cold you would have to protect that area from the elements when outside in them. Although those that use the neck and shoulder sweat... I do not clip past the neck during the winter.

I have had several horses that sweated so much I had to wash their neck wraps several times a week... or had to alternate with another set. The neoprene would be so soaked they wouldn't be dry before I needed to put them back on the horse.

There's actually more to this because it runs into some coat care also... I've been contemplating doing a video about it ... if that would help new or other horse owners. So, sorry if I've run on a bit again.
 
Joanne, I am sure a video would be much appreciated by amateur owners in the industry. You really turn your horses out beautifully, I am sure that your video would sell well.

Another product to use is Microtek by Eqyss.

Edited to add: If you do any product, I would not put the sweats on again until the hair and the sweat are dry, or you could risk blistering the skin.
 
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There's actually more to this because it runs into some coat care also... I've been contemplating doing a video about it ... if that would help new or other horse owners. So, sorry if I've run on a bit again.
could test it here ha ha...

Would love to see a video on how to neck sweat... would be interesting..or any help in conditioning a horse for the show ring... thanks...
 
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Joanne, I am sure a video would be much appreciated by amateur owners in the industry. You really turn your horses out beautifully, I am sure that your video would sell well.
Another product to use is Microtek by Eqyss.

Edited to add: If you do any product, I would not put the sweats on again until the hair and the sweat are dry, or you could risk blistering the skin.

Thank you Amy cause I think you've done some amazing things with your horses! I'm sure you must not have seen my "padded" horses this last year...
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Was a different year for me.... but back on track this next year!

I have used the Micro-tek Wash for my blankets and my sweats to wash them in and they also have a Micro-Tek Anti-Microbial Spray that eliminates fungal, bacterial, viral skin conditions for about $20. I'd go through that pretty fast though sweating 4-5 horses... I guess I'm too cheap... I like only spending $2 but it is a good product to consider. Oh sure... that just opened up for the I have a "natural" neck horse comments... : ) There I said first...
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I have one too so ha ha!

YES, you are also correct... even if my horses were turned out in the rain, I do not put their sweats back on them until their coats are dry! Great Point!

I was a professional dog groomer/handler/trainer prior to minis... even though I have loved, read and studied about horses since I was 4 years old.... but I have no desire to go Pro here.... LOL LOL But boy... it was a great ground layer for learning structure, movement and the grooming as its all applicable.

Maybe we could do something together! A Liberty video.... sharing different techniques and styles. Amy's horses are real showman and do trained tricks... mine are considered the more traditional Liberty type.... and we are both dedicated and devoted to our horses.... Sorry again... off on another subject.
 
From a newbie (to the Miniature Horse):

Do you have to sweat a horse to be competitive in the ring? Or, does it depend on the individual? I am not familiar with sweating at all, but I am curious as I have seen a lot of pictures of "thick" Miniature Horses while surfin' the 'net.
 
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Of course, there is no rule that says you have to sweat your horse's neck, but with today's competion and the desire to have that long, curvy swan neck... may help answer your question.

Yes, there are a lot of thicker neck minis out there, that wouldn't be so thick if sweated, but some may not be showing. Some people feel their horses should win without any outside help. I feel that sweating the neck is just part of their show conditioning program. Some of those thick necks are gonna fall over one of these days (fallen crest)... and there's nothing you can do once that happens... at least that I know of.
 
Has anyone ever used a garbage bag?

My brother used to be a wrestler in high school, to meet weigh in, sometimes he would run miles before a meet in a garbage bag was kinda funny but he would sweat off POUNDS!
 
Yep! And will never do it again. Before using what I use now, we tried several different methods... one was using sweat potion and wrapping a plastic bag around his neck. We got some results but it was messy, took too long for my liking to prepare and unwrap... you can't leave it on for long periods... and try to get close to some horses with a plastic bag... talk about liberty time... LOL But maybe it works for some folks.
 
Here's what i do for my show horses. . . . .

Each horse has a fleece lined throat latch sweat and fleece neck wrap. The throat sweat has a neoprene outer shell, an the neck wrap has neoprene at the end, the neoprene helps them sweat more but the fleece lining protects the skin from burning. They get the throat sweat on and the neck wrap over that. We keep it very snug, just enough room to squeeze a couple fingers in between, but its a tight squeeze. Some people think it's choking them, but just think how tight a cribbing collar is and many horses wear those and can breathe just fine. Plus if it is too loose, it totally defeats the purpose and the wrap can slip or move causing more problems. We start wrapping them every night at the beginning of February...ish . . . . Once the start their exercise routine (as soon as the snow/ise has cleared enough, they get worked in neoprene sweats a couple times a week. Someone suggested lining the neoprene sweat with bubble wrap, which keeps heat in and keeps the actual sweat clean. I plan on trying it this year, since the bubble wrap can just be thrown away when I am done, instead of having to wash the sweat every day.
 

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