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wingnut

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Finding consistent time to work with my 2.5 yr old has proven to be really hard! I'm still working at it but as I do, questions arise.

Do you work with any kind of timetable? For instance, at what point do you know you're ready to work with a bridle and bit? I'm currently working with a standard barn halter with a small chain. The chain just runs from loop to loop under her chin. It's meant to act as a "reminder" that we're working and is part of the methods my trainer uses.

What order do you add things and what are your "keys" for knowing it's time to move to the next step or level or piece of equipment? I'm taking this very cautiously and do not intend to rush ANY part of the process. I do plan to work throughout the winter though as time and temperatures allow.

Thanks in advance
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Need a bit more information as to where you are in your training. What are you using the halter and chain to do?

I started off with ground work. I've worked my mare since she was a baby. I mean we worked on walk, whoa,trot etc. Since she was good with all that and had already put in time with me in obstacle halter, I started with long lines on her halter to get her used to me being behind (instead of in front) of her. That was a big deal to her. During that same period I would put a headstall on her with a bit and leave her in her pen where I could watch her while I cleaned the barn. I wrapped the bit so it was cushioned at first while she was in the chewing stage. I had to put some sweetner on it when we first started - so now she's the only mini I have that "picks up the bit" like a big horse.(no putting a thumb in her mouth to get it open)

We went from there after she seemed relaxed with the bit and blinders.
 
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1. Freelunging/lunging on a line starts as a yearling, focusing more on freelunging as I don't feel lunging on a line is good for young legs/necks. However, my yearlings are taught the basics of a lunge line so that when we go to Nationals or a show, I can get the sillies out in a controlled manner as lots of facilities don't have turnout. They learn the verbal cues of walk, trot, reverse, whoa, and come. It's mostly like roundpenning, using their natural behavior to eventually understand what the cues mean.

2. At age two (usually early spring, like February since we have mild winters here) they start wearing a bridle and surcingle during these workouts. They wear the bridle while I clean their stalls and groom them. I use fruit snacks ("fruit roll ups") on the bit to make it a pleasant thing, and eventually use it less frequently so they are not hard to bridle). When their mouth grows very quiet to the bit, I start introducing sidereins very loosely and eventually adding a check rein until they are bitted up in a decent frame (takes a few months normally). They still have the freelunging/lunging on a line routine, just now they have to wear "clothes" and eventually work their neck and back in the frame I need (I do breed shows, so this won't work as well for carriage type driving if that makes any sense. Forced frames are not desired in that case!).

3. Summertime hits and it's time for ground driving in the roundpen and arena. They learn to set their head without the side reins (I use gentle massaging to encourage this) and how to turn with the bit. At this time, they are also integrating to the blindered/closed bridle. When they are very responsive to the ground driving, they graduate to ground driving outside around the neighborhood (since weanlings, they go for hand walks around the neighborhood to see all sorts of scary things.)

4. Late fall of two year old year, I consider hooking them. This depends on a few things. A. They need to be able to stand still at a "whoa" as long as I want, no matter where they are or what is going on. I hook my cart in the open (not tied) by myself and I expect the horse to stand still for hooking. B. They haven't shown any dangerous propensities such as bolting or shutting down to cues when frightened. C. They do not back up continually when scared D. They turn both ways equally well. When these things are met I will start ground driving them with one hand and holding the shaft of the cart with another so they can hear it behind them. A helper is better for this if you can get one! Then after a few days of that, I will practice hooking them, leading them for about two laps around the arena, and then unhooking them. If this goes well, I will begin to ground drive them with the cart so that they can slowly get used to the shafts, as usually turning is a bit bewildering to them when they feel the shafts. Meanwhile, this is integrated with regular bitting up as well as ground driving. I make sure all the above steps are always done to reinforce basics and prevent the horse from anticipating or getting bored. I still let them freelunge with nothing on, or putting them on a line, or something different.

5. When horse is quietly ground driving with the cart on, and standing still for hooking/unhooking, I will get in the cart. Usually by this step I don't have any problems still. I will usually keep the drives to about 5-10 minutes at the walk, and then unhook. After a couple times, we get to the trot. I always try to make it pleasant for them. I want my horses to be confident and comfortable and enjoy the exercise.

At any time, if a horse is frustrated or doesn't "get" something or I'm having difficulty, I just stall and go back to the previous step until the horse is fine. I've had a couple of minis unable to progress past the "ground drive around the neighborhood calmly" step so I never got to hook them. Usually with patience and CONSISTENCY (working them a day or two a week, or a few times a month, is NOT progress that is good for the horse) you can get them hooked in a timely manner. But only the horse can tell you that!

Some horses require you to try something else, as not all horses think and learn the same.

Andrea
 
Thanks for the great replies so far!

Since we brought her home at 10 months in April '09, we've been working on her ground manners during walks. She's doing very well considering my own lack of experience. I'm pretty proud of us both
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Currently, we're working on lunging (new for us both) to work on verbal transitions from walk, easy trot, extended trot, whoa and stand. I'm using the barn halter & chain for this purpose right now. My trainer has had me work with some of her horses using a training bridle and bit (no blinders). We've worked the horse (hers) using training lines to ground drive as well as side reins while lunging. I hope to work more with the trainer but I have budget and time constraints that keep my sessions with her to one every 4-6 weeks right now.

I know I need to spend far more time than I am right now. She's doing rather well with the verbal transitions on the lunge line and I think that's mainly due to the work we've done on the lead line simply doing walk-abouts on our property and in the neighborhood.

Another area of concern is that she's getting her 3 year molars (has lovely bumps top and bottom right now), so I'm trying to determine the best timing for having the equine dentist to come out and check her wolf teeth and whether I should have that taken care of before I get a bit anywhere near her mouth.

If I can have her ground driving by the time she's three late next spring, I will be thrilled. If I can have her pulling a cart by this time next year, I will consider it a success. I recognize that we're a long way off and things may come up that deter me from taking her to that point. My research/reading has helped me to understand that not all horses can be or should be trained to pull a cart. At no point will I push this process beyond what either of us is prepared for.

Again, thanks so much for your help
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wingnut said:
Do you work with any kind of timetable? What order do you add things and what are your "keys" for knowing it's time to move to the next step or level or piece of equipment?
Like you, I usually have all the time in the world to train my personal horses so I tend to let the horse guide me. Turbo, my 2.5 year old, could easily be ground-driving by now but since I don't want to start him in the cart until he's at least 3 I'm waiting on that and letting him show me what he's ready for. We spent time out on the road when he was a yearling learning about scary traffic, garbage cans, walking through water and how to navigate ditches (scary, scary ditches! Oh my, he was convinced they were going to eat him.) In the process of that I started using voice commands, mostly "whoa" and "walk on," and teaching him to stay out of my space. As he mastered that I added the command to trot and started being more picky about how far he stayed from me. That naturally grew into "easy trot" and "trot on" and learning to move away from me, which grew into lunging on a leadline, which with our at-liberty work grew into walk, trot and canter on a full-sized circle and stopping and reversing. All of these little pieces he gets taught start coming together to form a bigger picture for him but it happens so naturally he's never anxious or unsure.

He's played dress-up with various harness parts over the last year but it's always low-stress, just trying things on and getting praised and then having them taken off. He's more than ready to start carrying a surcingle if I can find one that won't rub his winter coat. I'm just going to add the surcingle to the same routine we're doing now, then the backstrap and crupper, and when he's perfectly happy to wear those during liberty work, walks and being ponied from the cart I'm going to add the bit in an open bridle. Probably around the same time he'll get separate sessions in steering off of long-lines attached to the sides of his halter and learning to walk, trot, and whoa in front of me instead of beside me. We're already playing with that at liberty and he's getting quite confident about going ahead of me.

For me that is when things will start to come together fast. I'll put some halter fleeces on the side of the open bridle to begin limiting his vision, start lunging him formally with the bridle and a lunge caveson and introduce loose side reins attached to the bit. When he's easily accepting all of that and giving to the light pressure of the siderein I'll switch the reins to the bit and start formal ground-driving and double-lunging on a circle and really get going. I'll get him used to a blinker hood while on our walks and such and gradually add it to the new stuff but I'll do most of the drag and cart training in an open bridle. Once he's lunging in side reins it's easy to add the breeching and breastcollar and then all you have to do is teach them to lean into each of those and handle the shafts and Boom! They're driving.
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Leia
 
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Do you work with any kind of timetable? What order do you add things and what are your "keys" for knowing it's time to move to the next step or level or piece of equipment?
In short, no "timetable". The horse needs to make his own timetable. We don't move on until they get the previous step. Relaxation, relaxation, relaxation. If they show anxiety for any step, it's not time to move on yet. Horses that are pushed too fast will not make good driving horses.

However, I will "change it up" from the traditional driving methods, i.e. one day we might longe, the next we might wear the harness. When they are comfortable with the harness but maybe not the bit yet, I will have them pull something while I lead them in a halter, etc.

Myrna
 
Ahh, more great information! Lots to chew on here
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And confirmation that slow, slow, slow and steady while not getting too boring is the way to go
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As usual, I'm over thinking things :p
 
No timetable for me either ... the horse decides for me. When the horse has shown confidence and consistency at each stage, then we move on. The only part of the "timetable" that I decide upon is when we start the whole process
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