Unexpected breeding : /

[AnnaC]

Diane makes a good point regarding the stallion lines - just because your beautiful boy is lghter in build, he still carries the normal heavier boned lines behind in his breeding. and can easily throw these into any future foals. Also, as you are obviously a very caring owner, I feel that if you let this pregnancy go ahead you are going to spend the next year stressing about whether you have done the right thing or not, and the stress levels are just going to rise as the foaling date gets nearer - not something that i would want to put myself through as any 'normal' breeding is stressful enough!

 

[bevann]

Get the shot for both mares.I love and respect my vets(both equine&canine).After breeding dogs for over 42 years and horses for over 30 years I have learned that the best advice regarding birthing and breeding issues have come from other breeders, not my vets.Breeders deal with issues on a daily or weekly basis.Vets have multiple issues in a practice and breeding and foaling issues are usually not at the top of the list(unless your vet is a repro or foaling specialist)My best advice has come from those who are in the trenches with the problem.I have used the shots and the side effects are minimal and don't last long.I have had the bad experience of having to cut a foal from a mare because she could not have the baby(head turned back over shoulders)and she had been bred to the same small stallion before.Watching your mare sweat and cramp some is nothing compared to almost losing her in a bad foaling situation.Please listen to the experienced breeders on here and get the shots.

 

[Ryan Johnson]

I also agree with the above Posts. I wouldn't hesitate for a second in giving any of my mares the shot. As bevann said, the side effects are minimal compared to what your mare may go thru at the end of this pregnancy

best of Luck in whichever path you decide to travel.

Please don't take this the wrong way , I mean it in the nicest way and Im not trying to sound negative......... But ...........................You have the choice now , you may not have the choice in the end when its too late

Ryan

 

[Rocklone Miniature Horses]

I'd get them both injected. It's not worth the risk for a random foal.

 

[Suebe]

I didn't tell you all this but prior to this happening with the Haflinger I put my 6 year mare with our mini stallion, it was February which isn't the most viable heat month but she showed that first heat of the season and I decided to go with it. She spent several days with him, what if she's already pregnant by him

this isn't about the almost two year anymore she's getting the injection. I love my minis, I wouldn't do anything to risk their lives ever but I'm so torn, ugh so distraught over this entire episode

((

 

[chandab]

Talk to your vet about ultra-sounding the older mare or palpating her (if he'll do a mini, some won't due to the size). If she is pregnant, the size of the pregnancy should tell him if it just occurred a few days ago or 28 days ago.

 

[Lepeppylass]

Its early enough in the year that I would give both the shot, and if you wanted a baby from the older mare, put her back in with the mini stud. the sooner the better really. this whole situation is just adding up to a lot of extra stress, and that isn't good for anybody!

 

[Suebe]

I hear what you're all saying and I so agree for the most part...I can't do the injecttion until the 30th per the vet, that's the magic number for termination so maybe it wouldn't hurt to do a wee foal 38 on the older mare just prior to the 30th. She could never come out positive from the Haflingef by then, it would have to be the minis stallions baby. Chandab and yes my vet doesn't like to palpate minis just due to their size, or ultra sound due to going through the rear, doesn't think its a good thing with the little ones although my mare is not very little for a mini

 

[chandab]

You can see if your vet would do a transdermal US (across the outside of the belly), but they aren't as accurate as internal.

 

[Rocklone Miniature Horses]

Weefoal38 are not in my opinion good enough to go by. the only way to sort it is to get the mare scanned internally if the vet won't do that get the shot. She can always go with the mini stallion again, if she dies due to a large stallions foal she won't.

 

I'd still go with the shots and breed your older mare on her next heat cycle. It's still early on the breeding season, and you'll have a good breeding date to go by for the expected delivery date. Then, your worries will be over wondering for an entire pregnancy about the possibility of a problem arising. Breeding can have enough drama without that type of worry. But we are here for you no matter what you decide, and will work hard to get baby safely on the ground.

 

[lkblazin]

I agree with Diane

 

[Suebe]

I'd still go with the shots and breed your older mare on her next heat cycle. It's still early on the breeding season, and you'll have a good breeding date to go by for the expected delivery date. Then, your worries will be over wondering for an entire pregnancy about the possibility of a problem arising. Breeding can have enough drama without that type of worry. But we are here for you no matter what you decide, and will work hard to get baby safely on the ground.
I really appreciate your advice and that you offer to help regardless of what I decide, that means a lot. I don't want to put my mare in any danger so I'll most likely do as you all think is best and give both the hormone

 

[Lepeppylass]

Just wanted to say I really love your Haffy boy. He is gorgeous! Whatever you decide we'll be here when it comes time to have that baby!

 

[Suebe]

Just wanted to say I really love your Haffy boy. He is gorgeous! Whatever you decide we'll be here when it comes time to have that baby!

Thank you so much, he's a really good boy, getting a bad rap at the moment lol but seriously I really appreciate the kindness & understanding

 

[Lepeppylass]

Someday we'll buy a Haflinger to add to our collection. They're my hubby's favorite breed ever since he met the one I used to show.

 

[Suebe]

Hi everyone

my mares had 1 cc two days in a row of Lutalyse. I was suppose to give it a 3rd day today but I chose not too because the side effect on my younger mare freaked me out a bit, I was scared I'm not going to lie! The first dose had no effect at all, acted like nothing happened, but last night around 15 minutes post injection she started running up & down her pasture fencing in sort of a panic, sweating and eventually rolling. I fed her as I gave the injection to keep her mind off of it, shes not one to ever walk away from a meal, she did though after that shot so I knew it was bad! I gave her a small dose of Bananine which I believe really helped! I've googled this several times now and feel 2 days with 1cc each should be sufficient?! Any opinions as to if I did the wrong thing? Hope all is well with everyone

 

I hope Dr. Taylor will stop in and share some information on this. I've had the shot given before, but it was as one injection, not over three shots, so I'm unsure what to advise. I would suggest you contact your vet to advise the reaction and confirm the dosage she received was sufficient. Her reaction seems to be along the same lines of those mares I've had treated, so she will be fine, I'm sure. A bit difficult to watch, since we love our horses and don't like to see them in discomfort, but it was for her good, although the decision was hard to make, I believe you did the right thing in treating her.

 

[MyGoldenSunny]

Sorry to hear your filly had a bad reaction! I hope she is doing ok now! I friend of mine told me that she just gave her mares one shot and it worked. I'm not expeanced in this tho.. Wish I could help

 

[lkblazin]

Hope she feels better soon