Video Of My stallion

[kayla221444]

I have noticed that my stallion double vision really moves! He lifts his front legs VERY high naturally!!!!!

Its so pretty, and when you lead him and trot for halter, his lifts them even higher. Is that good?? What type of driving is that good for, I have never done driving, besides for fun down the road, not with him though but planned to ground drive him soon. Its even more stunning in real life, it looks as if he is going to his his head with his feet!

Anyway, here is his video..

what do you all think of his movement?
The quality of the video really got Crappy once I downloaded it onto Youtube, but I guess I cant complain since people can view it, and it doesn't cost me anything to use it!

 

[Tatonkas Dream]

I am new to driving so may not be the one to ask

but I'll put in my 2 cents

from the video I'd say country pleasure class

I am very interested to see what more seasoned drivers say

As I continue to grow and consider purchasing another driving horse of what makes one CP vs SP...

 

[markadoodle]

YES HE IS! the way he moves out he could do any kind EVEN ROADSTER

 

[love_casper]

He sure is FLASHY!!!

I like him!!!

If he were mine I'd definitely want to drive that boy.

 

[disneyhorse]

He looks like he'd be a fun Country Pleasure horse or maybe Western Country horse. He does not seem to have enough movement for Pleasure/Park/Roadster to me, because he's moving at his fullest extent (the liberty trot) and you have to remember that most horses you take down a notch from that.

He's a really flashy color though!

I'd say if you're interested in driving, just do it and have fun! Any horse can be a driving horse... enjoy!

Andrea

 

[hobbyhorse23]

If that horse is Western Country Pleasure, I need to retire right now.

I would have said Single Pleasure, Country at least! No way does he belong in Western with such an upward-moving stride and upright head.

Nice little horse.

Leia

 

[kayla221444]

Thank you all, I have no clue about any driving events at shows LOL, just strictly for fun, but I noticed that when he moves he is high stepping & up headed unlike any other horse I have driven.

Thank you all for the compliments!

 

[joylee123]

[SIZE=12pt]Wow very pretty Boy!! I'm with Leia

Pleasure or country pleasure. Very Nice

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Joy

 

[midnight star stables]

He looks like he'd be a fun Country Pleasure horse or maybe Western Country horse. He does not seem to have enough movement for Pleasure/Park/Roadster to me, because he's moving at his fullest extent (the liberty trot) and you have to remember that most horses you take down a notch from that.He's a really flashy color though!

I'd say if you're interested in driving, just do it and have fun! Any horse can be a driving horse... enjoy!

Andrea

I agree

THIS IS NOT PLEASURE ACTION. Period. Now I do think his head set it too high for WCP, but I do think he would be well suited for CP driving.

I have a mare that moves very similar, and now that she is driving, she'll likely show CP at all shows. Now this doesn't mean she(or he - your boy) will be CP at ALL shows, as he could show Pleasure at smaller shows, and Western at Big shows(depending on his head-set of course).

There is nothing wrong with any of the driving classes, but you should try to show to the best of your horses' ability - IMO.

Here is a "Pleasure" type of action, shown at liberty. If this same horse was broke to drive, it would show in CP, because as Disney said, it's moving at his fullest extent in this picture at liberty and it would take years for this horse to obtain this type of action in the cart - if ever.

Same with these two driving horses - both currently CP.

 

[~Lisa~]

I would have to say I agree with Disney. Your boy is very pretty and should be a nice CP horse. He does not have enough to be a pleasure horse and I think for the time being he is a bit to much for West Pleasure. I am sure though it will just be a matter of time till the west pleasure horses are a bit more extreme then they are now

 

[hobbyhorse23]

I am sure though it will just be a matter of time till the west pleasure horses are a bit more extreme then they are now

If the Western classes at the bigger shows are made up mostly of the Country horses who aren't deemed good enough to win in their own division, I'm sure that's true.

Why on earth a class DESIGNED for low-moving, forward-reaching horses needs to become extreme I will never understand!

Not aimed at you Lisa, just frustrated with that tendency. I want to see good moving horses in that class, not pokey ponies with no collection, but that doesn't mean knee action! *sigh*

Oh well. Someday I'll get to some of the shows outside of my region and then maybe I'll come to agree with you about the quality of the current Western horses. Around here they're pretty nice for the most part. Then again, this is the land of Patty Cloke and successful combined driving minis!

I'm sure elsewhere that's not the case.

Leia

 

[~Lisa~]

I agree with you- didnt say I liked it or was looking forward to it but seems to be the trend with everything mini.

 

[kaykay]

Another thing to consider that I have been told by many driving trainers is that you really cant know what a horse will move like without hitching them up. Some can move beautifully in the pasture but not when hooked up to a cart.

 

[disneyhorse]

I'm sorry... didn't mean to start such a debate... but most horses loose a LOT of action once hitched up and it can take YEARS of training and/or artificial aids (which I would not suggest in the minis) to get even a bit of that "liberty action" out of the horse in harness.

The video shows a horse at liberty trot, but although he has some knee action he does not have the length of forearm to pull off the knee action that a Nationals-level Pleasure horse should have.

Any knee action whatsoever does not make a Country Horse into a Pleasure horse, it's the overall action on all fours as well as head/neck carriage that does.

But, you never know what the horse will do once in harness, so that's why I suggested that she just goes for it and has fun with it!

Andrea

 

[MiLo Minis]

Disneyhorse is right. Almost all horses lose their action once harnessed to a cart. To build a horse back up to its natural movement takes years of correct and consistant training OR artificial aids. The cart upsets their balance and throws them onto their forehand as they push into the collar. You need to teach them to put their weight back on their haunches so they can push from behind which opens up their front end and allows it to lift once again giving them back close to their natural movement and allowing a higher headset. The more natural talent for movement the horse has the quicker you can get there without resorting to artificial aids or appliances. You can train a horse to carry its head with a level western headset just as they do for western pleasure riding classes but most horses will carry their heads fairly low naturally when they first start in the cart.