We all have different lingo,,,,,,,,,maybe I am

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But what the heck does "Own son" mean?????? When someone is selling,,,,,,,,,and they say,,,,my horse is an own son of Magic Man.

What does that mean?????

How can a son be more than a son?

Why not just say son of Magic Man?????

Not trying to tell someone what to do or say,,,,,,,honest question.

Does "own son" mean more than son?????
 
I've heard the term before also and it has been used a long time. Dont know why or where it started, but it does mean it is a direct son of the horse named. (have heard that term used also) Yep, a son is a son, no matter how you describe it! LOL :bgrin
 
LOL unless I am missing something how can a horse be a indirect son?
 
Oh Carolyn

Don't attribute that to ALL out Westers...........................cause I agree with you, A SON IS A SON, nothing more................nothing less
 
I guess some folks use the term so as not to mistake the horse being a grandson, or something else of the horse mentioned?? Heck if I know!!

Ruff & Tuff, that would probably be one of those unexplained scientific miracles, LOL
 
As opposed to your son..own son... :lol: who knows...how is the non-smoking coming? Speaking of sons..how is yours doing?
 
I hear you
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BUT when you have a son of a famous horse, it's tempting to do the "own son" reference regardless of how silly it is when you think it out! :lol:

The "west lingo" thing made me think how in the east, we have "farms" and we have "paddocks". In the west, they have "ranches" and "corrals".
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I have always thought that it ment that it was a mare you owned and foaled out the resulting progeny of said famous stallion.

.... So instead of their farm name, yours, and therefor your "own" son? Sounds kinds funky, and I may be completly wrong... but that's what I have heard before. :saludando: (still seems kinda silly though huh?)
 
Indirect son: Mirrors were used. (to "reflect" the sire) :lol:

Maybe an own son is better than "Grandsire is a great grandson of" ??

I don't use the term "own son".

To each their own
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I was always told it meant a direct offspring. Like an own daughter of Boones Buckeroo not a grand daughter or in the case of a direct son .
 
I agree, a son is a son. However, I think it is used to emphasize that it is a direct son, not grand get. I cannot count the times I have heard someone refer to their Buckeroo colt, GMB colt, or EK colt, etc. when in reality the famous stallion they were referring to is possibly 4-5 generations back in the pedigree.
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It is a phrase that bothers me, too.

I think it is meant to emphasize that it is an ACTUAL son of the horse.

A lot of people say "Buckeroo bred" which could just mean it has Buckeroo somewhere in the pedigree. A lot of times it can get confusing because your horse could be BY a son of Buckeroo. If your horse is an "OWN SON" I think that just draws attention to the fact that it is ACTUALLY A SON of the said horse.

As you can see, when you read the weird wording it DOES draw your attention to the word "son" which by itself might not have!

Advertising, positive or negative, can be interesting!

Andrea
 
I always understood it to mean a son (or offspring) of the famous parent that you own yourself (or your farm does, or whatever). At least that's how I've always taken it. It's not something I use myself, as it tends to be very confusing for people to understand what it means. So I guess by the responces, it means various things, depending on how you take it.
 
Jill, when I was visiting in Southern CA 2 acres was called a ranch.Here in Delaware that is just a big LOT.guess it's just the terminology of the area.An Easterner's vision of "ranch"is BIIGG like you see on the cowboy western movies.
 
I've heard "own son/daughter" all of my life, never gave it a second thought until I learned in the last couple of years that I was incorrect lol and that the correct term is "direct son". Just a matter of semantics in my mind, all means the same thing.

Jan
 
Hahaha, yes, here in AZ, 2 acres would just be considered a large yard. LOL The ranches here are usually not measured in acres, but in sections. One that we worked on covered 136 sections.

I must say that just the ranching terms in different states are different- here on the ranch, you call your horse herd a remuda, or herd. In Oregon, they called it a cavvy. For the brief time of ranch life up in Oregon, it took a bit to get the language terms straightened out!! LOL
 
Guilty here!! I sometimes use the term that a horse of mine is an "own" son or daughter of a famous horse. And like someone else posted I use it to emphasize that my horse is a REAL son. So many times I will see Buckeroo or Orion stallion for sale and even Buckeroo son and in reality they might be a grandson or grt grt grt grandson! That is very disappointing to me. So I go to great lengths to help people understand that I have direct offspring of famous horses. Sorry
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: if others find it offensive but I have heard that term all my life.
 

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