We clipped the foal

[Jane=P]

We clipped the filly this weekend ,and she looks to be a rose gray, not silver bay and she has the spots on her nose, around her eyes, around her butt and one (size quarter) on the inside of her back leg. No other spots noticed. I still cant believe these spots, there is NO Appy in her back ground, I know people said this can happen with the silver gene, but this is the 3rd time I cross this mare and stallion, and the other foals did not have these spots and the colt was gray also, filly silver bay . I guess these mini's ,sure like to mess with your mind, Here is Hawk Hollows Sheeza Show Steeler..JANE

BEFORE CLIP

AFTER CLIP

HERE ARE THE SPOTS

 

[HGFarm]

Is she CHAMPAGNE???!!!!

They have that odd mottling, etc.... and she is kind of a strange color. Someone here more familiar with them might be able to tell you- and I know there is a website for them..

Ah, here it is- maybe this will help!

http://www.champagnehorses.net/

Oh Susan O. where are you? You have champagnes.....

Silvers of some varieties can show mottled skin but dont know that I've ever seen THAT much on one. WOW

P.S. You sure about the Appy? She has sclera too- which may or may not mean anything, LOL I looked at that champagne site and MANY of them have white sclera from the photos!

 

[Jane=P]

I dont think there is any cream genes either, her sire was born bay, went gray, his dam was bay (buckeroo granddaughter) and his sire was steely dan (silverwhite), here is pedigree for his sire bred to his granddam

FT Phantom Farms Steely Dan

(Sire)

Solid Grey 33.0"

Flying W Farms Little Thunder

Solid Black 32.0" Flying W Farms Masterpiece

Solid Bay 30.0"

Unknown

Unknown

Flying W Farms Ravens Wing

Solid Black 34.0" Raven King

Unregistered

Midnight Delight

Unregistered

Flying W Farms Little Snowhite

Solid Grey 34.0" Raffey

(Unregistered) Unknown

Unknown

Grey Lady

(Unregistered)

_____________________________________

Ocalas Miss Ester -his dams mother - His dam was bred to Little Kings Firebuck (chestnut)buckeroo son

(Dam)

Dapple Chestnut 33.5"

Dell Teras Red Baron

Solid Sorrel 31.0"

Dell Teras Moon Man

Chestnut Pinto 31.0"

Stouts Mister Pride

Solid Sorrel 30.5"

Stouts Mona Lisa

Chestnut Pinto 32.5"

Dell Teras Barbara A

Red Roan 34.0" Unknown

Unknown

Ocalas Red Lady

(Unregistered)

here is sire _ he also has one blue eye and is LWO +

and on fillies dam side- dam is silverdapple out of movados fwf blue carousel ( silverdapple overo) and her dam is silver dapple out of red/white stud- I have spoken to dams breeder and there is no appy anywhere.

here is dam, dont have good pic of her- she is silver dapple

this is the first cross - gelding - Hawk Hollows Show me the money

and here is the 2nd cross, she is silver bay- Hawk Hollows Show me the Blue

I just cant figure out those spots.

It looks like I need to do some gentic testing on her, what test should I do ? Silver? Cream? anything else?? JANE

 

[justjinx]

Sabino? We have a sabino mare that has mottling like your filly but has absolutely no appy in her background. jennifer :saludando:

 

[Jane=P]

I never tested her sire, so maybe I should do that test too..JANE

 

[HGFarm]

I have seen many silver dapples with mottled skin. And hope, no visible appy there! I would say then she is a silver of SOME sort- and they can have mottling. The foal just happens to have a lot, LOL