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There are so many lines I love. But my top 2 are-

ORION!!!!

Toyland Zodiac!!!!!!!!
 
The Prince!

Oh how I would LOVE to have my dainty super refined bay roan mare bred to him!!!

And King Supreme as he is my #1 favorite
 
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Is there a 37" mini out there that looks like this guy? If so, let me know!



Andrea
 
Is there a 37" mini out there that looks like this guy? If so, let me know!



Andrea,

Mini's are not supposed to look like or move like a Shetland. If one wants to make the Mini's look like or move like Shetlands, one should just get into Shetlands. If I am right, the classic Shetland of today is a cross with the Hackney. Shetlands did not have that kind of motion years ago.

Though I must say, he is a pretty boy.
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Well, who says minis can't look or move like that?!?

They are just Shetlands, bred smaller. So why can't minis look like THAT shetland, bred smaller?

What if I want a horse/pony that is smaller, eats less, has a cart that actually fit in the dressing room of my trailer (my B mini cart did, but my current 72" shaft cart does not)?

What if I want a little guy like THAT?

If you can get from THIS

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to what is winning in the show ring today, how come you can't get to a mini like the video I posted?

Someday it will, and that's what I dream about.

There weren't any big moving minis, so I went to Shetlands. But some day I want to get something smaller. That moves just as big.

No one says that minis CAN'T be true park horses.

This thread was "What do you dream about?" and that's what I dream about. Why crush dreams, saying that minis should only trot like little toys? Dream big! Not everyone wants to limit the future.

Andrea
 
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I really like one of the obvious and best -- Buckeroo
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Would like to maybe add some more Rowdy to what we've got going on here in time as well
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I dream of owning a show horse. Not complaining as I do rescue but a showing is my dream and owning a show quality mini would be my dream come true.

Blue eyes, high tail set, pretty head wonderful personality, black or buckskin and around 34-36 inches tall. Aaahhh someday.
 
My dream horse is already standing in my barn!

Sorry Andrea - I agree with Riverdance. Don't mess up the current miniature to get a tiny shetland! If you want that movement, get a shetland! But it also comes with a different attitude!!!!!
 
Frankly I do not think all minis move like toys nor do I think it is fair to state it as fact. There is many different kinds of movement that is sought after and beautiful besides moving like a Hackeny or Modern Shetland. I do not believe that Foundation ponies or Classic ponies move like toys? Lets not forget that the Modern division is the least popular division in the ASPC (in numbers) but of course you can not take away the fact they are exciting to watch.

Now while this is not a debate about ponies I do have to say I have 2 Modern bred Shetlands and I LOVE THEM they are sweet - easy to be around- nice dispositions. Never a worry with Raven handling them however they are ponies and different then my minis which is exactly how I personally want it

Now that said I do think that if I could pick any one mini well wow that would be hard there are so many I really like Champion Farms Nighthawk but sure I would have loved to be the one to own Buckeroo although I know I would never have the know how to market him like LKF did and does -I must say though at the moment my small little herd of minis is truly what I always dreamed of. As a kid all I wanted was to have horses in my own property. To be able to look out my bedroom windwo and see them and I have that so I have what I have always dreamed of even if there is room for improvement in some of my little horses
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Andrea, Here's as close as I can get to what you posted, not exactly but happens to be almost the same color too......just out in pasture - and in that picture as a late two year old wasn't even halter broke, so I was excitied about seeing her with some driving training under her belt....

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"Heart" - she's 4yr old and 35" AMHR/ASPC

She's a sweetheart and loves life.

I love her.....never got her in a cart as I have LizzE out in the cart this year - but Hearts in foal to National Grand Champion - Pharaoh due in about a month....can't wait!

*guess I should edit and say she's not for sale before someone reads this and thinks I'm trying to sell you a horse Andrea ;)

I also have Hearts FULL brother whose 3 this year and getting his AMHR papers, he's 36" and I don't have any good moving pictures of him, just a video, but he moves so super cool too like his sister. Got to get him to decide he wants to bulk up some before I put him int he cart.......he's just a whisper of a boy right now
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I have a cremello that moves like Erika's horse above. She is all Mini and is only 33" tall. So we can get some A Minis to have big motion without going to Shetlands. She is ground broke, 3 this year and hopefully will be driving before too long. Like many big moving horses, there is an attitude there.
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We are never going to get the Hackney pony motion, but Morgans never had that kind of motion either until one big breeder started to add Hackney Horse to his lines. Was he cheating? Yes, but he has all of the money in the world and no one was going to try and prove he was cheating, but we all knew.

The Shetlands have been bred to Hackney ponies to get that kind of motion and are Modern Shetlands(sorry, I said Classic before, but I meant Modern).

Hackneys in both ponies and full size horses all have an attitude problem and we surely do not need that in our Mini lines.

Yes, we are talking about our dream horse, but why change a breed to fill a dream?
 
Okay, if you want MINIATURE REGISTERED horses to dream about, then I dream about these AMHR registered miniatures:

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Dun-Haven Grand Event (AMHR/ASPC)

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Michigan's Sunday Special (AMHR/ASPC)

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RFP Time Is Money (AMHR/ASPC)

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RFP Timed To Perfection (AMHR/ASPC)

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Michigan's Hart Breaker (AMHR/ASPC)

The owners of these fine horses are VERY lucky and I would love to own a horse like them! There are PLENTY of big-moving miniatures like these out there. They DO EXIST. That's what I dream about... maybe someday I will find one of my own...

Andrea

P.S. I didn't know ALL hackney ponies and horses had an "attitude problem." The owners of those terrible horses should just euthanize them right away and do away with those genetic nightmares! My own stallion's grandfather was a Hackney... so of course he has an attitude problem, too.
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Andrea,

I used to work with a trainer who did Hackney's and I used to own a Hackney Pony and was trained by this trainer. He is the one who told me that Hackneys, either horse or pony, seem to have attitude problems. Mine sure did. I also visited a few Hackney breeders and they too said the horses were "strong willed".

The Morgans that were a result of the Hackney horses and Morgan crosses also had, and have attitude problems, even generations from the first crosses. Something that is not usual in the true Morgan.

I am an A breeder, so I feel that AMHR/ASPC Shetland crosses, are still Ponies to me. Just ones that breeders have managed to get below the 38" limit. The A Mini's just can not get that kind of motion.

I have nothing against Shetlands, just have a hard time calling them Minis.
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But...I do hope that you are able to attain your dreams and find that beautifully moving horse.
 
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I am sorry you have had bad experiences with Hackneys, and perhaps since they were all from the same trainer, perhaps he either had an eye for difficult horses or it was a result from the handling.

In my experience, the hackneys are incredibly willing horses with the most amazing work ethic. They will work their hearts out for you and are very smart, learning things very quickly. They are excited to see you and want to get out and have a job and do something. There are a range of them, from quiet kids' horses to very hot, nervous animals. But all in all, I have not seen that they are all strong-willed or stubborn.

With ANY breed of horse, there are stereotypes but not all horses will fit the description.

Andrea

P.S.

Although I do not currently own a Hackney, they are very beautiful, versatile animals bred for the show ring. I do not agree with any generalizations about them being unsuitable for children, too hot to do anything with, being stubborn or tire easily (in fact I think they have more stamina than most horses I have ever worked with!), or being crazy or untrainable.

Here is an amazing Hackney video (it is posted in parts, so you will have to find all four videos to watch the whole thing) that was posted by the American Hackney Society if you want to learn more:

 
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With ANY breed of horse, there are stereotypes but not all horses will fit the description.
Very true! I was recently at a public event where I heard far too many times "But these little guys are really mean, right?"
Ha ha ha Kendra... most of my vets and farriers say that minis are "spoiled, stubborn brats that bite and kick" and were pleasantly surprised that mine were not ... but mostly because their novice owners let them get away with those things. That doesn't mean that ALL minis are ill-behaved!

And since minis are the smallest of ponies... they are stubborn and bad-tempered! Mean to children of course! Cuz aren't all ponies?

Andrea
 
I have a certain colt and a mare I dream about as soon as I get

boocoo $$$$ they will be a dream come true, If they are still available. If we sell our farm maybe then
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Okay, if you want MINIATURE REGISTERED horses to dream about, then I dream about these AMHR registered miniatures:


The owners of these fine horses are VERY lucky and I would love to own a horse like them! There are PLENTY of big-moving miniatures like these out there. They DO EXIST. That's what I dream about... maybe someday I will find one of my own...

Andrea

P.S. I didn't know ALL hackney ponies and horses had an "attitude problem." The owners of those terrible horses should just euthanize them right away and do away with those genetic nightmares! My own stallion's grandfather was a Hackney... so of course he has an attitude problem, too.
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At the risk of offending folks - I M O - these are small Shetlands. Not miniature horses. Ponies. There is absolutely nothing wrong with them, and they are beautiful moving equines, but, again, I M O - these are NOT miniature horses.
 
At the risk of offending folks - I M O - these are small Shetlands. Not miniature horses. Ponies. There is absolutely nothing wrong with them, and they are beautiful moving equines, but, again, I M O - these are NOT miniature horses.
That is what I am saying.

I have nothing against them either and some are very talented and pretty, they are NOT Minis, but Shetlands that have been bred down.

As for Hackneys. I have nothing against them either, and I really enjoyed my boy, and he had quite a talent for driving. But even at horse shows, I saw attitude problems with different trainers. I am sure, that there are some very nice sweet ones out there, but there has to be something said that so many people are under the impression that ponies and Hackney's have temperament problems, because so many do.

When I was into hunter jumpers, I bought a pony for my then 5 year old daughter for shows and jumping. She had been trained by the top hunter jumper farm in Connecticut. Ox Ridge, which is on the national show list for major events; where some of the top horses in the country are trained and shown. Including horses shown in the Olympics. This pony was wonderful and my daughter and I were able to trail ride, including into open fields and I never had to worry about her (yes the pony was a mare and part Welch, but even my trainer then said she was unusual, since most are a lot for kids to handle. She had been having a hard time finding such a pony for her own daughter.
 
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trying really hard to stay out of this LOL

Kay
 

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