Why wouldn't this ONE wicket work?

[whitney]

 

[JourneysEnd]

Too big of chance for accidents.

A lot of horses don't like the current stick, put something on both sides of them and watch a human get it in the face.

 

[Charley]

ok, what about the same set up kinda. Have the sides set up with a level on top, no ruler in the center Have the horse set up under the frame but with a ruler down the sides (instead of in the middle) and a laser level that can slide up and down to read on the opposite side for the height.

 

[Alex]

Too many chances for someone or something to get hurt.

I still like Annettes and Charleys idea of a lazer beam.

 

[McBunz]

If the horse is use to going into a barn, into a stall and into a trailer, why would this be much different.. If it is the width of the wicket, if could be built wider..

 

[JourneysEnd]

If the horse is use to going into a barn, into a stall and into a trailer, why would this be much different.. If it is the width of the wicket, if could be built wider..

Don't know about your setup, but my barn, trailer, and stalls are all wider than 2 feet and don't touch the horse on the back at the same time.

The problem has nothing to do with equipment. It's a people problem.

We use wickets to measure dogs and people still cheat.

License outside people to measure at the horse shows. The official measurers would be non-miniature horse owners. Microchip the horse and use scanners at the shows. We wouldn't have to remeasure every year.

Just a thought.

 

[Charley]

With a laser, the horse will not feel it. It would have to pointed above the last hair of the mane and brought down to where it disappears and very slowly brought back up to read the lowest point that the level beam comes across the horse's last hair of the mane. I would think you would want the ruler to be on both sides as a check against each other but maybe you wouldn't need that as long as the ruler that your read the beam off of is true in relation to the horse.

In the tool department, they have these level lasers that is a laser pointer (red light beam) attached to a level. The horse would not feel it is being touched at all.

 

[Mona]

With a laser, the horse will not feel it. It would have to pointed above the last hair of the mane and brought down to where it disappears and very slowly brought back up to read the lowest point that the level beam comes across the horse's last hair of the mane. I would think you would want the ruler to be on both sides as a check against each other but maybe you wouldn't need that as long as the ruler that your read the beam off of is true in relation to the horse.
In the tool department, they have these level lasers that is a laser pointer (red light beam) attached to a level. The horse would not feel it is being touched at all.

Yes, I think this is a very good way! It may not be perfect, but would certainly be better than what is in use now.

 

[McBunz]

Excellent idea..

 

[Margo_C-T]

It certainly does seem that in these times of technological advance, that there should be a laser technology that could/would work to measure horses. Anyone here an expert on their use?

The wicket(or at least, a two-legged 'stand' that was set up over the horse; guess you'd also call that a wicket), was actually not only discussed, but CHOSEN for official use for AMHA measuring, several years ago...I recall the discussions, and *think* it may even have been described in the Rulebook of the time (I will have to go back and look...)...then, it was simply never mentioned again! I wondered 'where it went'....

I do think such an idea could be utilized(the 'wicket')--though thoughtful and careful design. This may make some of you unhappy, but I will say that I have NEVER thought that having an incompletely trained horse should be allowed to be an 'out' in setting the horse up and having it behave properly to be measured--NOR should it be allowed for a horse to 'shrink away' from the measurement stick--and immediate disqualification should follow if that is the case. FIRM enforcement of FIRM rules is the only thing that can, and I believe, WOULD, work.

Margo

 

[JanBKS]

Don't some of the Lazar meaureing divices come on tripods, one could set up a bpard maybe 2 ft wide on the far side of the horse , it don't even have to be close to the horse, and the Lazar on the opposite side, that way a horse never has to be close to the measureing device, and have markers on the other side where the Lazar meets the board, Officialy measured by the Directors of each organization A and R, as long as the horse is square as it should be there should be no dispute, also a camera to record the heigth at the time of measureing.

I think a chip woudl be good too, but some people do not want there horses chipped either way for identification or measureing I am sure.

But that is a simple solution so I guess it would be voted down. If it even got to be a vote.

Thanks for listning.

Jan

 

[R3]

Just another idea for a laser measurer, if there are any engineers out there.

What about two lasers on each end of a 24" crossbar? The two lasers on the ends would be pointed downward, and determine the distance to the ground. (Lasers are used for measuring distances across a room, etc., but I'm not sure if they would be accurate enough for measuring horses within the 34" range or not though.) The crossbar would be placed on the horse at the measuring point (last hair of the mane). It could have a bulls-eye 'bubble' in the middle and a switch of some kind to activate it when the bar shows level, and a digital readout giving the height. Or, if the technology was good enough, an automatic setting that would 'lock' in the height when the sensor knows that the bar is level.

Maybe it wouldn't need two lasers, one on each end, but I just thought if it had two, then it would verify that the measuring surface the horse was standing on was level too. If the floor wasn't level, the two lasers would be registering different heights, even though the bar was level. If there was too much variation on the two laser readings, it could show an 'error' message, so you could put the horse is a different place.

This would do away with anykind of uprights that would have to be moved around the horse.

Just a different idea, in case it gives anyone else any ideas.

 

[Dream]

They used something like that to measure at the Area 2 show and the horses seem to tolerate it.

 

[Leeana]

Yes, i have had my horses measured in multiple times at AMHR/ASPC shows by a mesuring stick just that same design ...no accidents, no issues ....it is already used in AMHR/ASPC. Yes, they did use one like that at area II regionals in Ashland.