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[tshack]

Well I'm getting a rescue of sorts from a lady downt he raod today. He's a bottle baby goat, that she had, and is tired of him and thinks he's a nusance. He's SO cute, and I felt so sorry for him when I went to her house the other day, he ran up baaaing and trying to nurse on her pnats leg and she kicked him away.

OK Goats have a soft spot in me heart jsut like my horses and dogs, and I was dumbfounded and have talked her into letting me have him. It's been about 5 years since I've had a goat around, so I need a bit of refreshing on it. LOL This one is still on a bottle, how much are they suppsoed ot each roughly a day of milk? And I'll keep him on the medicated goat feed as I have had probs in the past with kidney sotnes and feeidng my males reg sweet feed. Will it hurt horses? I'd like to be able to add him in with the mini herd when he's old enough (for now he's gonna stay in the yard). And salt blocks? are they OK for goats?

 

[Ashley]

How old is it?

Our goats start out on 4 pop bottles a day. They get 1/2 cup lamb powder to the bottle. We wean them down from there. Depending on his age, will depend on how many bottles he needs.

We dont give ours salt blocks. They however get round bale hay and occasional sweet feed.

What kind of goat is it? If you plan to put him/her in with the horses then you must get him/her disbudded.

 

[rabbitsfizz]

I agree with Ashley- I HATE dis budding but it must be done- goats can be evil with horns, and, even if they are not they can hurt inadvertently.

If he is an older Goat it will be a bit more complicated and you will have to get the Vet to do it and put him right out. If he has not been gelded he can be done at the same time.

I'm not a fan of bottle raised anything as they do become a nuisance- I gave away my first goat kid because I could not get her off me for love of money - she was bottle raised. Luckily the person I gave her to did not want to get her off, and let her in the house with her!!!

Goat food is potentially lethal to horses, be very, very careful. I never used it for fear of it getting to the horses- the chicken feed was locked up for the same reason.

Salt licks- I know the horse ones are poison to sheep- not sure about goats though- it should say on the side of the pack.

 

[tshack]

I think he's about a month or month an a half.

He'll be stricklty a pet. He's 1/4 pygmy, 1/4, Nubian, and 1/2 Boer. He's barley taller than my JRT Suzie, and is all white with a solid red head.

Another Q, will calf milk repacer scour them? Or should I stick to the goat milk?

 

[Ashley]

Fixing them is easy. If you have any cattle people next to you just take him over and ask one of them if they band him. That is the easiest way. They can be cut and done as well but as babies vets will normally just band them as well.

Guess im weird, I love bottle baby goats. We raise several a year this way.

 

[tshack]

He'll be dehorned and cut, but right now isn't.

The reason I'm getting him is she thinks he's a nusnace. I def won't mind if he's freindly and dang sure won't kick him. Can't stand to see animals of any type mistreated.

 

[tshack]

Fixing them is easy. If you have any cattle people next to you just take him over and ask one of them if they band him.  That is the easiest way.  They can be cut and done as well but as babies vets will normally just band them as well.
Guess im weird, I love bottle baby goats. We raise several a year this way.

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LOL Your talking to a cow person. LOL

I love the bottle babies too, I'll take anythign in a raise it, be it calf, dog, or goat. LOL

 

[minijoyj]

Do not give him that kind of feed around the horses!!!!!!!!!! Nothing medicated around the horses. Here is a receipe for your milk._

1 gal. whole milk (take 4 cups out of the gal. & put to side) then pour in

1 cup buttermilk

1 can evaporated milk (then put back as much milk as you can)

This is the closest to mom's milk & the buttermilk keeps them from getting the poops.

I use a regular baby bottle with a little bigger hole in nipple. If he is a few weeks old give him a bottle in morning & one in the evening, that is usually enough for them. Hay & grain inbetween. I wouldn't put him with the horses until he gets alittle older to make sure he is getting his food. Bottle babies are a pain in the butt, but I love them to death.

You need to get him banded soon or he will be to big to band. I do mine around 2 weeks of age. Good Luck with him.

 

[Ashley]

I would still have him on 4 bottles if you are able to do that. We feed them lamb milk. You can get a bag of powder milk at most places that carry calf. That will last him for a long time. Mix 1/2 cup to a full pop bottle. Then you need to get a lamb nipple. Ours here are yellow based with red nipples. IF you can find them the solid blacks will work.

We mix a full bottle and he probably at this time wont drink the whole thing but will in no time. Nubians and boers are big goats so will need more then your average little goat like a pgymy

 

[tuffsmom]

Tuff had a Nubian goat, and that goat was the screamer of the year. He was bottle raised, and whenever he saw a human, he would do this "slit your throat" scream until someone loved on him. He would attempt to climb the fence if I had Tuff out of the pen, he ate EVERYTHING. Including the shavings I had down in the floor of Tuff's shed, the rubber feed pails, and he even ate a plastic water bucket. He was a straight idiot, too. He'd jump up on you and knock you down, try to head butt me in MY butt, and try to eat my clothes. We got him a dog collar & staked him out one day, but he nearly killed himself. He'd hang on the end of the rope and choke (and try to scream while he was choking). It sounded like he was gurgling...so no more of that.

Needless to say, now that we have Big Man...the goat lives at the Children's Ranch, where he is loved and fussed over every day by preschool children. He left the day after Big Man arrived. That goat was around for one purpose only, to keep Tuff company....and he was not needed anymore.

 

[tshack]

Well here he is!

I was off on his age he's more like 2 months, doing good and eating good.

 

[Ashley]

Hes a big boy. Your gonna wanna get his horns done very soon or he will have to have them surgically removed if they get much bigger. By the looks of him he inherited the boer coloring and size wise looks like he will get close to that big.

If he is eatting hay and grain good, I would have him on 2 bottles a day. How many are they feeding him?

 

[tshack]

He's eating hay, and I'll get him some medicated grain tomarrow.

She todl me she was giving him 1 a day, but she was also tired of him, and I think jsut doing the basics. He ate a coke bottle tonight of his milk really well. Didn't care for the baby bottle but I keep two of those prichard's teats (the ones with the yellow bottom and red nipple) handy for my pups in case I have to supplement them when i have a litter, he took to that really well.

 

[rabbitsfizz]

A Jack Russel Goat!!!

I would not want that grain around horses- goats do fine on horse or cattle feed, why risk the goat food?? A little of that goat grain could kill a horse (Not happened to me but it as to a friend.)

 

[tshack]

He won't be around the horses for a long while yet, I don't watn them to hurt him. I'll fix somthing up if they do end up accepting him later on, where I will stall him out of the horses reach and grain him if I need to grain him. I've had a LOT of trouble with my whethers in the past having kidnet stones on horse feed. Lost one, almost lost another. Every pet male I've had has gotten them, and a long time ago when I went through it with the last one the vet told me it's cause they needed medicated feed. I switched him to it and had no more probs with them. It 's just a precautionary thing, vet bills can get high, and having to go out every hour and squeeze on their side to make them pee and seeing them be that uncomfortable and stuff, is just something I don't want to go through again.

But since I do now that it will hurt a horse, soemthing will be fixed so that the horses can't have any access to it. Don't want to kill my four hooved babies.

LOL Lvoe the Jack Russell Goat remark too. A few have commented to me that his name should be Jack then he'd fit right in with the dogs. LOL

 

[rabbitsfizz]

Teresa- think about using ordinary feed and putting the medication in his water- you will be able to get it on it's own, not in feed. If horses were to get access to his water they would not be inclined to gobble it down as they would free feed!!! Also, the medication itself is unlikely to be dangerous to the horses, it is something in the feed that is (well, DUH!! OF COURSE it could be the medication, how stupid am I?? Check with h your Vet, Honey, Grandma's having a "Senior Moment"!!)

 

[Sonya]

I would not give him horse grain. Grain causes urinary problems in wethered goats. Stick with goat feed for him.

 

[tshack]

Thanks guys, Iwent in to get his feed today and the guy at the feed store who is a goat man (never knew it in the 5 years I've been dealing with them, lol) told me that the medicated feed jsut covered the scours and fever type stuff, nott he kidney stones that all her needed was plenty of water and a mineral block. It was about 6 years ago that I did have troubel with my last male so who knows, that vet coudl of been filling me full of bull. LOL Our vet here raises them and I'm gonna give her a call and see. I picked up a couple of mineral blcoks in town today though one for the mini's and one for him, but don't knwo if he'll eat on it yet but at least he'll have access to it.