I was unaware this thread was started and I feel I said a few things in the previous posts that are in conjunction with what many of you are saying here. So- I copied them and re--posted- if you already read them- sorry.... but if AMHA really is going to consider breed or height, closed or open, DNA or not.... I hope the directors and committee members are watching these threads.....
First---I love the idea of web voting or absentee voting!!!!- it is long been needed in AMHA and I have brought it up several times in the membership committee meetings and marketing meetings. It would be much easier to get people involved and play vital roles in the best interest of the association. I sure wish this one would go thru but they say no- because too much changes at the actual national meeting verses the rule proposals that they print. I think they should have the rule proposals printed- I think they should be worked out in commitee at the National Meeting, proposed there in front of the membership and directors and then e-mail notification out (at minimum) to the members who have signed up for web voting. Then they can vote at that time. Within 1 week, the totals can be done from the actual meeting results and online results and printed for the general membership.
Or another thought--- how many of you have bid online? Why can't the National Meeting be watched online and vote at the same time everyone else does....register with your member id number and password and go forward- this isn't new technology anymore!!!!
On the other points being made--- as John Eberth said in the other thread- we all are dealing with a bell curve when it comes to height- we all have produced over 34" horses- if you haven't yet- you will- if you breed horses that is. It is the fact that AMHA knows this- they rake in the money and give you nothing back when it happens. They want to declare that the product horse is no longer a miniature horse worthy of their recognition. It isn't that we are whining and crying about what we have produced because there is a place for it that retains it's value- AMHR. What is so disturbing is that AMHA wants us to give money to them and constantly bail them out, they want us to support the shows and give more money to them, they want us to be sponsors and give more money, they want us to advertise and give more money, they want us to DNA, Parent Qualify and give more money- for what? So we can see the corrupt politcs at the shows and measuring or so they can hang us out to dry when a horse out of 2 AMHA National Champions under 34" has produced a slightly taller one? Darn- all I did was breed what they want us to breed, give them the money prior to it being born to show that we bred the right 2 horses as far as their rules go (stallion reports), and then register the foal when it is born, DNA and PQ and then in 5 years make the papers illegitimant and take all that money. Oh and on top of that- they allow us to breed and transfer horses prior to being premanently registered and take the money for those foals, transfers, stallion reports, DNA, etc...again raking in the $ but not worrying about the members.
I have no problem with playing by the rules and going elsewhere if need be to retain value to my animals. The point is.... If AMHA is a "height registry" then don't close the registry and get some "testicular fortitude" and measure horses as they should be. If it is going to be a "breed registry" as they want us to all prove and pay we are doing, then make it a breed registry and anything that is produced out of 2 AMHA horses is still an AMHA horse.
Quality is Quality regardless of height and I will say- if height is all that matters to AMHA- then I forsee me continuing to support AMHR more. And the comments about "What am I going to do when I get something over 38""- Well it better have ASPC or NSPR papers then shouldn't it? There is a huge difference in 34" and 38" as there is a huge difference in 28" and 32". Ask those who struggle to stay in that under 28" group what they do when they have an over 32" foal? Do they consider their foal not worthy of being registered? I would think not.
Robin-LKF
First---I love the idea of web voting or absentee voting!!!!- it is long been needed in AMHA and I have brought it up several times in the membership committee meetings and marketing meetings. It would be much easier to get people involved and play vital roles in the best interest of the association. I sure wish this one would go thru but they say no- because too much changes at the actual national meeting verses the rule proposals that they print. I think they should have the rule proposals printed- I think they should be worked out in commitee at the National Meeting, proposed there in front of the membership and directors and then e-mail notification out (at minimum) to the members who have signed up for web voting. Then they can vote at that time. Within 1 week, the totals can be done from the actual meeting results and online results and printed for the general membership.
Or another thought--- how many of you have bid online? Why can't the National Meeting be watched online and vote at the same time everyone else does....register with your member id number and password and go forward- this isn't new technology anymore!!!!
On the other points being made--- as John Eberth said in the other thread- we all are dealing with a bell curve when it comes to height- we all have produced over 34" horses- if you haven't yet- you will- if you breed horses that is. It is the fact that AMHA knows this- they rake in the money and give you nothing back when it happens. They want to declare that the product horse is no longer a miniature horse worthy of their recognition. It isn't that we are whining and crying about what we have produced because there is a place for it that retains it's value- AMHR. What is so disturbing is that AMHA wants us to give money to them and constantly bail them out, they want us to support the shows and give more money to them, they want us to be sponsors and give more money, they want us to advertise and give more money, they want us to DNA, Parent Qualify and give more money- for what? So we can see the corrupt politcs at the shows and measuring or so they can hang us out to dry when a horse out of 2 AMHA National Champions under 34" has produced a slightly taller one? Darn- all I did was breed what they want us to breed, give them the money prior to it being born to show that we bred the right 2 horses as far as their rules go (stallion reports), and then register the foal when it is born, DNA and PQ and then in 5 years make the papers illegitimant and take all that money. Oh and on top of that- they allow us to breed and transfer horses prior to being premanently registered and take the money for those foals, transfers, stallion reports, DNA, etc...again raking in the $ but not worrying about the members.
I have no problem with playing by the rules and going elsewhere if need be to retain value to my animals. The point is.... If AMHA is a "height registry" then don't close the registry and get some "testicular fortitude" and measure horses as they should be. If it is going to be a "breed registry" as they want us to all prove and pay we are doing, then make it a breed registry and anything that is produced out of 2 AMHA horses is still an AMHA horse.
Quality is Quality regardless of height and I will say- if height is all that matters to AMHA- then I forsee me continuing to support AMHR more. And the comments about "What am I going to do when I get something over 38""- Well it better have ASPC or NSPR papers then shouldn't it? There is a huge difference in 34" and 38" as there is a huge difference in 28" and 32". Ask those who struggle to stay in that under 28" group what they do when they have an over 32" foal? Do they consider their foal not worthy of being registered? I would think not.
Robin-LKF
