chocolate dapples

[shorthorsesmt]

Good dreary spring day to all ( hope the sun decides to poke it's head out one of these days

) When I was first inquiring about my driving gelding the seller had told me that he was a sorrel, but upon getting pictures and seeing him in person it turned out he was the farthest thing from a sorrel- a chocolate dapple actually! I have tried to find info about the coloring but not with much luck, so having read so many post about color questions lately i thought i would throw it out here. How common is chocolate dapple in miniatures?? will the dappling change with age, much like an appy?? and if you have any other info i would really appreciate it. The gelding is in my avatar- sorry for the funny mane, I roached it not long after he got here, now it is growing in nice and even. thank you in advance

 

[ohmt]

Do you have a larger picture you can post? I am thinking he is silver black, but can't tell for sure-the other options are silver bay or smokey silver black. All are very common in miniatures

Technically there is no such thing as a chocolate dapple-I believe most people use the term to describe a certain shade of the three I used before. I bet if you google the ones I mentioned you will find pictures of horses that match your boy. I have a few silver black mares and their shades and dapples do change with the seasons.

 

[Lewella]

Great site for silver dapple information (which is what "chocolate" normally refers to) is silverequine.com

 

[shorthorsesmt]

thank you for the info! what is the difference between a smokey silver black and just a black silver?? thanks for the web site i put it on my favorites so i can look at it more. i am not sure how to get a bigger pic to work i would be happy to email a better pic . thank you, the forum members here are amazing

 

[ohmt]

A smokey silver black usually has more of a brown tinge to them. It just means they have the cream gene along with being silver black.

The top stallion on this website is a smokey silver black: LINK

If you'd like to email a picture I'd love to take a look

[email protected]

 

[mdegner]

We have the quintessential looking chocolate dapple horse and when we finally tested him, he was OHMT pointed out, smokey silver black. To the eye he i chocolate or almost a seal brown. His body will dapple a little in the sun or when he is in tip top shape.

 

[shorthorsesmt]

thank you for the info based on it it sounds like Cowboy is a smokey black silver, as he has that chocolate type color to him, ohmt, i tried to email a pic but my computer kept saying server failure , i just love computers lol. thanks again everyone

 

[joylee123]

MMMmmm Chocolate Dapples! Sounds tasty

I know... just couldn't resist

Joy

 

[Minimor]

You can't really tell by looking at the horse if he is a smokey silver black or just a silver black. The cream gene can appear to be "obvious" in some black horses (silver or otherwise) but in others it hides completely, meaning that when you look at the horse you would never, ever guess the cream gene is there. When it comes to the silver blacks, they can range from almost "grey" to a deep chocolate color even when there is no cream gene present.

To be a smokey black the horse needs to have one dilute parent.

 

[ohmt]

Minimor-I don't think I've ever seen a smokey silver black that did not have the chocolate color that Rangers Absolut has.

There are some silver blacks that do have a sort of chocolate color as well, but it's usually pretty easy to pick a smokey silver black from a silver black.

 

[supaspot]

I have silver blacks and a smokey silver black and they look totally different , I dont know if they all do but certainly the ones Ive seen do have that mink colour

in this pic he has a little more hair so it shows his colour better ( when hes newly clipped he looks silver)

 

[Shari]

MMMmmm Chocolate Dapples! Sounds tasty

I know... just couldn't resist

Joy

Sorry, I just have to continue with this.... here is a beautiful Chocolate dapple...

http://www.moonstruckchocolate.com/p-493-milk-chocolate-pony-truffles.aspx

 

[Minimor]

Minimor-I don't think I've ever seen a smokey silver black that did not have the chocolate color that Rangers Absolut has.

There are some silver blacks that do have a sort of chocolate color as well, but it's usually pretty easy to pick a smokey silver black from a silver black.

Most of the proven (as in color tested) smokey silver blacks that I know of actually had less silver in their manes/tails than the average silver black. Some, to look at, I wouldn't have guessed to be silver blacks as such--it seems that the cream gene inhibits the silver gene and makes it look different, at least in many cases. I cannot say in all cases...

I can also say that all of my smokey blacks look different from my blacks--it is easy to tell black from smokey black--but again that doesn't apply to all! Songcatcher (I believe he's the one) has a color tested smokey black that looks as black as any true black (no silver) horse.

I used to have a little silver black mare that was quite "black" coated at certain times of the year, at other times of the year her coat was quite "chocolate"--sometimes a dark shade of chocolate, sometimes quite a light shade of chocolate. According to your knowledge of smokey silver blacks you would surely have guessed her to be a smokey silver black at those certain times of the year, but she was not--she absolutely did not carry a cream gene.

 

[supaspot]

Sorry, I just have to continue with this.... here is a beautiful Chocolate dapple...

http://www.moonstruc...y-truffles.aspx

:rofl

:drool

I do think the manes and tails of smokey silver blacks look more like a strange shade flaxen than silver