Felt Scammed?

[Nathan Luszcz]

My contracts cover current condition, pictures, electronic ID (chips), registration, description, training level, intended use, hoof care/history, feed requirements, medical history, vaccine/dewormer history, any contract details (ie with my QH stud several breedings were included in the sale price), warrenty/guarentees, legal disclaimer, lien-free statement, owned completely by owner, misrepresentation clause, signature/witness

Can't be too careful! Plus, such a statement gives you the ability to fight identity theft if the horse is claimed to be a different one than sold, and also (more practical than anything else here) gives a history and record of the horse's medical history and hoof care. All very important!

 

[tinypony]

My recent purchase was a good example of how things can change with environment. The stallion I bought was anemic and lethargic. He was trained to do several tricks. After having him home for 3 weeks I decided to try some of these "tricks". He wouldn't do a single one. Turns out that now he has gained weight and become energetic, he doesn't have the patience for tricks. Also found out that he had some extensive vet care at a local university that was not disclosed to me. 2 months later and I am still also waiting for the transfer on his papers to be signed (this is my own fault for trusting).

Also, due to his poor health before he had not reached full height. At age 3.5, he is still growing (much to my disappointment). Be careful, demand papers in advance (and check them over), maybe even have the person take the mini to a local vet and have the vet call you to certify health and size. We all have bad purchases but I try to make the best of all of them.

 

[HGFarm]

I too, have purchased many with wonderful results and have been very happy.... but did purchase one earlier this year from Wyoming that was advertised as a bred mare- four years old, was to be her first foal. The mare arrived extremely fat, and also came in season after she got here. Had her tested by the vet, she was not in foal, had never been, and has a serious thyroid imbalance. She will not carry a foal unless on meds, and even then there is no guarantee at all. The mare was advertised as a broodmare. It didnt disappoint me so much that she was not pregnant- I have two stallions to breed her to, but the mare was expected, and the ad implied that she was at least breedable.

When I emailed the seller and her 'agent' to let them know, the seller said she would buy her back. This was last April. May came and went, then June. In mid June I finally got tired of the runaround, since I had been flat out told TWICE she would buy her back, and even asked for the info as to where and how to send the refund. Nothing came. When I finally put my foot down, after two months of feeble excuses, and told them to take care of it, they decided to change the rules and then told me no refund unless I played by the 'new rules'.

I did file a complaint here with MaryLou since the horse was sold through an ad run on the Sales Board, and MaryLou did investigate. She went out of her way to help me, however the seller and her agent just told more lies, and have never sent a refund, nor will they answer any email, except to reply the last time with nasty remarks, insults and insinuations from the agent. I had the documentation to back up the facts- and this is important! They are both banned from the Board and the horse is still sitting here.

I have thought of hiring an attorney, since I have all the documentation and then some, but if I do that, it is going to be for more than just the repurchase price of the mare at this point. I have filed many other complaints as well, through other avenues but dont know who/what your situation might be to do that.

 

[Seashells]

I too, have purchased many with wonderful results and have been very happy.... but did purchase one earlier this year from Wyoming that was advertised as a bred mare- four years old, was to be her first foal. The mare arrived extremely fat, and also came in season after she got here. Had her tested by the vet, she was not in foal, had never been, and has a serious thyroid imbalance. She will not carry a foal unless on meds, and even then there is no guarantee at all. The mare was advertised as a broodmare. It didnt disappoint me so much that she was not pregnant- I have two stallions to breed her to, but the mare was expected, and the ad implied that she was at least breedable.
When I emailed the seller and her 'agent' to let them know, the seller said she would buy her back. This was last April. May came and went, then June. In mid June I finally got tired of the runaround, since I had been flat out told TWICE she would buy her back, and even asked for the info as to where and how to send the refund. Nothing came. When I finally put my foot down, after two months of feeble excuses, and told them to take care of it, they decided to change the rules and then told me no refund unless I played by the 'new rules'.

I did file a complaint here with MaryLou since the horse was sold through an ad run on the Sales Board, and MaryLou did investigate. She went out of her way to help me, however the seller and her agent just told more lies, and have never sent a refund, nor will they answer any email, except to reply the last time with nasty remarks, insults and insinuations from the agent. I had the documentation to back up the facts- and this is important! They are both banned from the Board and the horse is still sitting here.

I have thought of hiring an attorney, since I have all the documentation and then some, but if I do that, it is going to be for more than just the repurchase price of the mare at this point. I have filed many other complaints as well, through other avenues but dont know who/what your situation might be to do that.

HGFarm, I've seen cases on tv (horse misreprented)....and some have been successful for the buyer. Would that be something for you to consider? In my case, it was a nice horse, but the bad habits were not something I could deal with. I wanted a horse to enjoy for pet, and I couldn't enjoy her tiresome antics. I really should have asked if she had bad habits. But in your case, you technically didn't have a contract fullfilled. So I'm willing to be a judge would find in your favor.