I am really bewildered and would like to understand

[Bassett]

This young man sums it up.

OMG Fran, I got goosebumps and tears in my eyes when that young man yurned and walked away. Thanks for sharing.

 

[Basketmiss]

Thanks for sharing that Fran, it gave me goose bumps and a great feeling that this man stood up and said it...

 

[Pepipony]

I dont see how anyone can affiliate themselves with a party anyhow. They all pander to special interests, some to more of a degree than others ( like the republicans) I dont like how Reps say I have no choice about my body. I dont like how Dems want to give people handouts. I dont like how Reps spend spend spend raising our deficit, then gripe gripe gripe, when its time to pay the bills ( meaning raising taxes) I dont like how either party is more into telling us what is wrong with the other one, and not enough telling us what they stand for. I dont like how either party spits out 'facts' that are BS and how we just lap it all up, so long as they are in 'our' party. We dont complain when our party lies , thats ok since the other guy does

Basically, I dont like hypocrits. Its not, do as I say, not as I do in the grownup world. Maybe back in junior high.

 

[minimule]

"Bringing religion into chosing your candidate is very dangerous. Religion has no place mixed with politics. Look at the mess in the middle east when they do that. You should make your choice based on the non-religious issues. Yes some are morale issues but everyone has their own set of morals, atheist have morals too, so do Protestants or Catholics, or Muslims, or Baptists or whatever."

I didn't bring religion into this. I simply stated that I like George W. because he IS a Christian. It's just one of the reasons I like the man. In reality, our Forefathers were very religious men. That's why they wrote it "One nation, under God". It's Dems and Athiests that have banned God from politics. In my own opinion, that is one of the reasons our country isn't as strong as it once was.

I never said you weren't allowed to go to the doctor when you need to. I stated that I want to keep that privilege here.

You seem to like to twist anything that is said into an argument. Marnie asked WHY and I told her why I am and do. After all.....I do live in a FREE country!

 

[sedeh]

I am a Republican because this country was formed to be a FREE country. The Bill of Rights was written because the founding fathers knew that at some point someone would try to take certain rights away from us. They were very smart people. I am a Republican because we believe that if you want something you need to work hard and earn it. You shouldn't be "paid" using hardworking people's money to sit around on your lazy behind and do nothing for yourself.

I am a Republican because I want to make my own decisions about which doctor I want to use. I also want to be able to go to a doctor when I need to. (If our medical system needs so much help why do a lot of Canadians cross the border to use our current healthcare system?)

I am a Republican because I don't want to live in a Socialist country. Russia doesn't sound like a lot of fun. They tell you where you will work, when you will work.........

I vote Republican because I want to keep this a FREE country.

Obama can't even do an interview without his "handlers" writing a script for him and them telling whomever is interviewing him to "stay with the script". He can't answer how he truly feels or his true identity would be found out.

Sorry Dems. I don't trust your candidate as far as I could throw him. He has no clue how to run anything, especially one of the strongest countries in the world.

As far as WMD....did they not find a HUGE stockpile of chemicals used in WMD. Sounds like proof to me. I actually like George W. He is a Christian man that isn't afraid to cry with a wounded soldier. He isn't afraid to pray in public. He is someone I would like to meet at some point in my life.

Well said!! I don't normally post regarding politics but I am conservative and vote mostly Republican. I'm definately going with McCain this year! My friend and I butt heads sometimes over politics. We were just talking a few weeks ago about our votes, I was only a luke warm McCain fan at the time but frankly Obama scares me! We were talking about all the money that goes to countries that don't even like us and why doesn't someone use that money to help our own National debt....then low and behold, McCain brings up that very fact at the Republican convention! Way to go!! I like the idea of less government and lower taxes. I like that he wants to cut wastefull spending....and I think he's got the balls to do it! I really don't like the idea of paying for more welfare services.....I work too hard for my middle income money! I really like Palin too.....she is such a breath of fresh air.

Fran...thanks for the link. It was great.

As far as the current Bush admin goes......give the guy a break!! He has had to face more problems in his admin than most. He's only one man and his hands are tied much of the time by Congress and the Senate. I recall watching TV for hours as they presented the "evidence" regarding WMD.....it was quite impressive. I was convinced! I think Bush, Congress and Senate were too.......but now they make it sound like it was all Bush! Grrrr.

 

[LowriseMinis]

Couple things-those talking about religion and our Founding Fathers may want to do a bit of research on the subject: http://www.sullivan-county.com/nf0/dispatc...hers_quote2.htm

Secondly, after watching what I can find of O'Reilly's interview with Obama, even O'Reilly seemed impressed with him. From his Column:

"Like him or not, you have to give Barack Obama credit for waging a smart, focused campaign. Destroying the Clinton machine was a major achievement and so was putting together a successful convention in Denver. Obama is now firmly a part of U.S. history, no matter what happens in the presidential election.

The problem some Americans continue to have with the Senator is that he is long on charisma but short on detail. This frightens some voters. Who the heck is this guy, anyway? So when Obama finally agreed to speak to me this week, specifics were on my mind.

First, the man. The Barack Obama I witnessed is self-confident, determined and driven. He was acutely aware of his surroundings from the moment he entered the room. He looks you in the eye and touches your shoulder. He understands how to connect one-on-one.

As far as philosophy goes, Senator Obama is convinced that the federal government should be in control of income distribution and, to some extent, should regulate the free marketplace. That is a classic liberal position, and Obama promotes it well.

The Senator also believes that poor Americans have a basic right to free health care and monetary supplements from the government with no strings attached. The American substance abuser, for example, would derive the same benefit as a hard working, laid off worker would. Again, classic liberalism. No judgments made regarding entitlements.

So, if Barack Obama does become president, there will definitely be change. His left-wing base will demand it, and he will come through. You can decide if that's change we should believe in, but keep in mind that the unintended consequences of government interference in the marketplace are impossible to predict. Free markets have a way of chafing under government imposition.

On the foreign policy front, Obama has convinced me that he is tough but cautious. He rose up quickly because he vehemently opposed the Iraq war. But now I see a man who understands the victory that has taken place in Iraq. I don't believe he wants to screw that up. I could be wrong.

After going mano-a-mano with Obama on television, I am also persuaded that he is a sincere guy-that he wants the best for all Americans. He's an ideologue, but not a blind one. He understands that his story is incredible, and, I have come to believe, he is grateful to the American system for allowing it happen.

It is true that we don't know whether Senator Obama has the ability to solve complex problems, but you can say that about all presidential contenders.

Like most politicians, Obama has used guile and good luck to accumulate his power. He can be ruthless, kind, unfair, and generous. In short, he's a real person trying to achieve an unreal position-that of the most powerful person in the world.

God help him."

http://www.billoreilly.com/newslettercolumn?pid=24183

 

[Sonya]

I didn't bring religion into this. I simply stated that I like George W. because he IS a Christian. It's just one of the reasons I like the man. In reality, our Forefathers were very religious men. That's why they wrote it "One nation, under God". It's Dems and Athiests that have banned God from politics. In my own opinion, that is one of the reasons our country isn't as strong as it once was.

very well said!

 

[Pepipony]

Please tell me exactly how and when the Democrats have tried to ban God from Politics? Are you meanign from the rhetoric that politicians spew ( like when they want someones vote) or from everyday Washington life? To me, just because W says he is a Christian, doesnt make him one. And if he is, with his actions, I wouldnt claim him as one anyhow. Do as I say people, not as I do.

Example, Getting onto Russias case for invading another country, that Russia needed to follow the UNs lead. Like W would neeevvvverrrr do that or go against the UN

 

[Jill]

Lowrise -- O'Reilly may have been more impressed with Obama than he expected to be, but something tells me, O'Reilly doesn't like him enough to vote for him. I'll admit Obama came off a little better during the interview than I anticipated, but I had low expectations and it would be a lie if I said I was impressed (go figure)

 

[Reijel's Mom]

I I dont like how either party spits out 'facts' that are BS and how we just lap it all up, so long as they are in 'our' party. We dont complain when our party lies , thats ok since the other guy does

Very, very true, and this thread is evidence of that.

 

[Pepipony]

Some months ago a ladys daughter come up preggers at 16. Good family, church going, everyone works, pregnancy was just a thing. All the ladies aruond here flipped out. OMG how could this happen? OMG she cant possibly go to church!! Etc etc. Went to a funeral and it seems this poor Mom and daughter were all the rage, guess people forgot it was a funeral.

So now Palin comes along, and she is THE cats meow because her daughter is preggers and she is such a great mom. Heck, being a Mom makes her a shoe in for being able to handle a vice presidency.

Hypocrits. All these dang hypocrits make me nuts. Do as I say people, not as I do.

 

[LowriseMinis]

Pepi, that's so sad for that lady and her daughter. What a way to react at a time when they both needed friendship and support.

 

[Jill]

I don't think you can call her a bad mom because her kids may have made some mistakes. Some moms here have kids who've made mistakes -- some of "our own" have kids that have gotten pregnant as minors, drink, use illegal drugs, do poorly in school, commit crimes, etc. Are they also bad moms? Since we all know that all a parent needs to do is explain to their kid how to behave and they will do as they are told and advised...

[SIZE=12pt]But most importantly, Palin is up for Vice President, not a Nanny position.[/SIZE]

 

[ozymandias]

You have to remember that there are people at all levels in each party. Those far, far right, those far, far left etc. Then there are millions of us who fall in the more moderate middle of each party. I'm a republican. I believe in a hand up not a hand out. I believe in less government not more. I came from a socialist country (England) and don't want to see that happen here. But, that said I'm also pro choice and I do not want to see creationism taught in schools. I couldn't possibly vote for Obama. Seems all he wants is to take and give. I'm also in the camp where I've disliked Bush from day one. Is it important how the rest of the world views us..yes. It's very important how we "fit" into the global view with regards to our economy, exports, all trade and our own security knowing when we ask for "help" that there are nations there willing to step up. Bush did a lot to damage that. I think McCain/Palin will be a refreshing change to the "good old boy network".

 

[Miniv]

You have to remember that there are people at all levels in each party. Those far, far right, those far, far left etc. Then there are millions of us who fall in the more moderate middle of each party. I'm a republican. I believe in a hand up not a hand out. I believe in less government not more. I came from a socialist country (England) and don't want to see that happen here. But, that said I'm also pro choice and I do not want to see creationism taught in schools. I couldn't possibly vote for Obama. Seems all he wants is to take and give. I'm also in the camp where I've disliked Bush from day one. Is it important how the rest of the world views us..yes. It's very important how we "fit" into the global view with views to our economy, exports, all trade and our own security knowing when we ask for "help" that there are nations there willing to step up. Bush did a lot to damage that. I think McCain/Palin will be a refreshing change to the "good old boy network".

In the grand scheme of things I agree with your views, Dana...... I am not a Republican, but an Independent, and I tend to lean to the conservative side. I also believe in the "hand up and not a hand out.......and in less government - not more". My belief in abortion is confusing.........I believe in allowing it for the first trimester for certain circumstances......after that, I am always wondering why people don't bring up the OPTION FOR ADOPTION????

I believe in presenting both views of "creationism" in schools.......the Biblical and the Scientific. We have presented both to our own daughter and it CAN be done.

I believe in protecting our environment without being fanatical about it.

My main negative concerning Bush is his policy regarding our Borders and being lax in regard to our illegal alien problems. Considering the priority of the "war on terrorism", you'd think he would have cracked the whip down on that one. I'm sure there was a political reason behind it, which shouldn't have been an important one........considering the circumstances.......

As you stated, there are people who are not far Left OR far Right...........Guess that's where I fit.

 

[OhHorsePee]

Mary Lou, I was a working mom. I even went to college and worked while I was mom to two boys. They are happy, healthy, productive individuals that I love with all my heart. I see no difference if Sarah Palin's hubby parents the children than if she did. These are different times and I am sure her children are so very proud of their momma. Her hubby ain't shabby looking either! Snort snort!

Fran

 

[Jill]

Something else I want to say to those in other countries who chime in over and over again about our politics:

I hope you really know as much about your own county's politics as you think you do about the politics of the USA.
I admit I have about 1% as much interest in Canadian politics as the members from there have in ours. Maybe that should be considered flattering vs. annoying. I don't know.

 

[horseplay]

I don't see how anyone can say Palin is a bad mother, I will assume that your children have never make a mistake so that makes you a "good mother" and a good judge of someone you don't know? To me saying she should be home with her children is a sexist point of view, I just don't see how this has anything to do with being a good VP.

I have to agree with Jill, I am going with "it's flattering" but I will admit a tad "annoying" at times

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[minimule]

I hope you really know as much about your own county's politics as you think you do about the politics of the USA.
I admit I have about 1% as much interest in Canadian politics as the members from there have in ours. Maybe that should be considered flattering vs. annoying. I don't know.

Yeah Jill! I was trying to come up with a reply to our Northern ButtIns but you said it very well.

 

[Sonya]

And for people say that they had worked when they had children. The BIG difference is S. Palin puts her career FIRST, then her children.. She HAS to do that to have a VP job.. that is why I totally disrespect her.. I know too well with families that have mothers that have placed careers first.. It is totally wrong and totally unfair to children.. they need their mommies

Wow, very sexist statement....last I heard men are capable (at least some) of raising children...what about male's who wish to adopt children , whether they be single or have a male partner...I suppose they are not capable??....because children need a mommie????

I hope you really know as much about your own county's politics as you think you do about the politics of the USA.
I admit I have about 1% as much interest in Canadian politics as the members from there have in ours. Maybe that should be considered flattering vs. annoying. I don't know.

Yeah Jill! I was trying to come up with a reply to our Northern ButtIns but you said it very well.

...problem is those in other countries hear what their country wants them to hear, which is normally not the facts. Of course other countries want Obama, it makes perfect sense. To the U.S. neighbors up north...as much anti-U.S. stuff I hear on this forum anymore, I assume their media is behind it all, and everyone (since everyone simply despises the U.S.) would love to see the U.S. fail....well if Obama gets in, you might get your wishes.

**edited for spelling....I actually spelled it right, but not the word I was looking for. If you previously read this post...you know what word I typed wrong...spell check wouldn't of even helped me with that one...haha...don't know what I was thinking**