I just dont get it?

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Or they are buying one day and selling down the next. Or they are so excited about a new horse and in 4 weeks the horse is up for sale and they have bought another new horse they are so excited about
-------- Just another method that horse dealers use and NO I'm not calling everyone a horse dealer........ I know what you are talking about KK.
 
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"selling out" and "downsizing" only to go out and buy right away. The problem I have is they often take them to the auction houses and then the paperwork doesn`t get changed and they seem to just "disappear".
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I know there are times when you have to make hard decisions like that, but not annually.
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Cathy_H hit it right on the head.. it's called "horse dealers" or "pony millers". They buy to sell and yada yada.. in my oppinion there is NOTHING wrong with a horse dealer if that's whatyou choose to be/do.. but why hide the fact? I mean our society has a place for horse dealers..and i know you CAN get nice horses from dealers..but why use the lie/ploy to try to sell these horses..be honest! that's MY big gripe with it!
 
I agree with Boinky's point about dishonesty. That's what gets me. You talk to someone, they say they are selling out because they are moving etc. and then they say, "But I'd trade this one for a mare" or something, and all I can think is, "What the??!!" If you are trying to "sell out", why would you trade one for a mare? (Or stallion, show horse, buckskin, etc.) Hey, just be honest and say you have one for sale. There is no need to claim you are having a dispersal, or getting out etc. if you are not. Or, just say that you are a dealer. I think that is OK too.

It's fine with me if people change horses. That just happens. I just prefer that the seller be honest.
 
Hi,

Well..... I don't know if there are allot of people buying and then getting out..... or what not... maybe someone got in it and then realized that's really not what they wanted to get into.... And I think that is ok...

Me... I just got into the mini's last fall....... And love it sooooo much that I've pretty much have sold all my big horses and am waiting on my last big horse to sell. But I have one stallion and 3 mares..... And I absolutely LOVE my mares....... I don't think I could ever part with them..... even if I never bred them again! They each have such a neat personality.....each different....... My minis aren't just mini's.... They are individuals! They are my other kids!!! You just don't get rid of your kids because........

And I searched a LONG time for each one....... so they are NOT going any where!!
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Cathy_H hit it right on the head.. it's called "horse dealers" or "pony millers". They buy to sell and yada yada.. in my oppinion there is NOTHING wrong with a horse dealer if that's whatyou choose to be/do.. but why hide the fact? I mean our society has a place for horse dealers..and i know you CAN get nice horses from dealers..but why use the lie/ploy to try to sell these horses..be honest! that's MY big gripe with it!


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Lori
 
I know we had a situation where I purchased a filly late last year that I had looked 6 mo for, searching for conformation, bloodlines and color and finally found her, only to have my husband make an "executive decision" this spring that we had to dowsize by four due to our current business commitments and a possible move. I had two for sale at the time: one was a foal I had planned on selling when we bred the mare, the other was due to her size. The problem was that I had to choose two more. That was the hardest decision to make because I have only a small number of horses and am very attached to them all. This particular filly that I got late last year was chosen because I hadn't yet become as attached to her. I then made an "executive decision" and told my husband, "No more. That is it!" I can't bear to let anymore of my little ones go. I am hopeful when we move and get fencing and the barn as we like it, that we will be able to purchase a couple more, but for now we are in a good place.

I'm sure there are those out there that buy and sell repeatedly but there are also those of us, as have been mentioned, that have circumstances that demand (read: husband) we sell some. We all wish we could keep them forever and I for one, have a couple that I really would have to have extenuating circumstances to cause me to let them go, period!
 
I recently advertised some horses to sell... well, actually they were my two donkeys. I had to move to a smaller barn and because they were donkeys, they had to stay together. This made it more complicated with stalls, etc. I knew I was going to be buying two more horses-- one was a buy-back filly, bred and foaled here, and one was a stallion I have been dreaming about for a long time. So that was a factor in my plan.

I had to make the decision to sell the two donkeys. It was very, very hard. They are in a wonderful home, but it is not what I wanted to do. I know some day I will have mini donkeys again. It was very sad.

And what makes it worse is that we now don't have to move to a smaller barn and in fact, we have acquired more space. What a roller coaster of emotions my life has been! Too bad I can't get my donkeys back.

I am constantly building my perfect herd. Okay, so it's really, really small! LOL I have several horses that won't go anywhere for as long as I can help it. My daughter is enjoying showing horses, so that may change what we do in the future.
 
Definitely agree with you Kay - I hate the 'flavor of the month' buyers! There are a couple - yes on the forum and sale board that fall in love and talk endlessly about the horse of their dreams, only for it to be up for sale within weeks or months. Surprise it is repeated again and again! I won't sell to those types.

That is much different than someone that is educating themselves and building a breeding program where mistakes and changes of direction will occur. Generally the purchases are thought out and any horses culled are sold with care too. We all do that, that perfect mare or stallion may not work for various reasons in your existing program or life happens and adjustments need to be made. That is completely different from the get a high on buying/selling types.

As for high volume seller, well not all of them are awful. There is also nothing wrong with making money selling horses - if there is then alot of us are in deep trouble! I have a friend that sells a high number of horses, but she does this as a service for lots of small breeders in our area - she has a great network of clients and generally fits the right horse to the right home. She also foals out for the smaller breeders, too. I've never seen a horse leave her place that wasn't in better condition than when it arrive. Her paperwork is always in order, the horses are well cared for and she makes money at this. I don't find anything wrong with that.

I've bought horses for resale, and probably will do that again - sometimes its to good of a deal to pass up, others its to get a horse out of an undesirable situation. 90% of the buyers we've sold to become friends and I do have a first right of refusal in our contracts. I also offer assistance should they need to rehome a horse and I can't take it/buy it back.

But I know what you mean about too many homes, Kay - I just placed a mare with a 'lifer' friend as this mare has been in too many homes for my comfort level. I have another one like that right now - she's been in three different states in six different homes and she's only 10. I think she would do better in a smaller herd situation than what I have, as she's a fairly docile mare, and gets lost with our mostly alpha type mares, but she'll be here until the right situation comes along.

Really getting to know a buyer, their goals and thoughts can help get a horse into the right home in the first place. I tend to talk at length with buyers about what they're trying to accomplish or want, expect from their minis.

Good topic Kay!
 
I see this all the time on the sale boards and locally.

I have been "trying" to downsize for over a year now. Not trying very hard, I have to admit.
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: However, that being said, I am now where I really have to do something. My mother is my partner and she worries about finances and such. At her age she shouldn't have to worry about these things.

My problem is , I love all my horses and they have produced well for me. Then I start thinking that if I sold a few I could put some money and bring in another bloodline/color/patern etc.
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: My birthday is coming and I'm finding it difficult to take care of everybody myself. When my (now ex) fiance was here it wasn't so bad, threw him out 2 yrs ago and I think I've about done myself in.

There is one stallion I won't sell. One I would really worry about and just don't want to, and one that would be hard to part with because I've just plain had him for years.

So then If you keep one stallion , you only need a couple of mares to keep him happy. If you keep two or all three then.......

So what do you do when you don't want to but really need too?
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Robin
 

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