Med withdrawl

[OhHorsePee]

Ashley, see if your pharmacist will call in to your doc to get your perscription filled. I am unaware of how things go in your state but here they will do that.

Fran

 

[lyn_j]

[SIZE=14pt]Ashley, this is gonna sound real ugly and I cant reach into this computer and shake you but...... If you are as depressed as you seem and as you say, and you have been prescribed this medication by a licensed Dr, Whos office by the way , are truly handling things as you say ought to be reported to the licensing board in your city......YOU NEED HELP! Someone who has sleep issues, concentration issues, job issues, pet issues etc..... lots of life crisis..... YOU NEED HELP! Go to the local mental health clinic and get a real pyschiatrists prescriptions and advice. The way your doctors office has handled this is abomnable! The pharmacy IS able to get immediate attention from the Drs office in every state not just here.... God and you forgive me for saying this but I just have to..... if this post was to get attention and a rise from us you certainly have accomplished that. I dont screw around with Drs and people who play with psychotropic medications prescribed or otherwise and that is EXACTLY what you are doing!!! YOU CANT MESS WITH THESE MED 5 days without it is only the beginning.,..try 30 days of decreasing doses.... If you are as in need as a prescripton of 75 mg of a strong antidepresant ASHLEY YOU ARE NOT WELL!!!!!!!!!! PLEASE you are an adult now.... MAKE people listen to you, Give me the phone #s and I will call them for you! I would not be put off......[/SIZE]

Flame away everyone but I know how this stuff works. Ashley if you dont do this the please dont come on here anymore asking for withdrawal advice, or advice to help you sleep! We get to care about you and worry about you and then you just keep telling us how awful life and the people in it suck and screw you over. Stop being a victim of society and GET YOURSELF HELP{ Im sure your boss doesnt want you there impaired. Tell them what the problem is, go to the ER for a psych eval TODAY and get on the meds you need. I dont want to see a post from your aunt saying because she didnt get help Ashley comitted suicide.

Flame away everyone.

Lyn

 

[nootka]

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I think in lieu of someone right there with her that will do it for her (I don't think her family's all that supportive, if at all, and her doctors/counselor are failing, obviously), she needs someone who will "tear them a new one" if they don't do something right.

I think she has left for work, but I told her to keep calling and not give up though she's definitely ready to give up on bothering to try anymore.

If she wants to be mad at us for caring that she's not being treated right, then so be it. I've had far worse thrown at me by my own kids/family.

Liz M.

 

[Scoopiedoo]

No flames here, Lyn, you are absolutely RIGHT!! Ashley, people here care about you, and you obviously feel that because you came here seeking answers! You got the answers, maybe not what you wanted to hear, but Lyn is right, you are a disaster waiting to happen if you don't get those meds. You NEED to get to someone that can help you, and NOT when it is convenient, but NOW!! What you are doing is the chemical equivalent of Russian Roulette, people have come forth to try to help you, now heed the warnings. No one wants anything bad to happen to you, and you have MANY people here very worried for you!

Hope you are still managing through, but that SOON you will post that you got results, this is VERY SCARY!

Jodi

 

[Lisa-Ruff N Tuff Minis]

Well at this point, still cant get ahold of them, and they still are not calling me back so I give up. This is my 5th day with out it, so It has to be almost over. I dont feel so bad today, just exhausted.

I guess maybe its just a sign that I shouldnt be on it in the first place.

We will see what happens in the weeks to come, but for now, I guess im gonna try and go with out it.

I guess I am not understanding why first off you dont say I am not holding nor calling back I expect after 5 days to speak to someone NOW or I will have an attorney call.

And why you dont in the meanwhile get the 25 mg pills

 

[Triggy&Blue&Daisy Too]

I took this same med many years ago myself and the beginning dosing for Effexor XR is 75 mg per day in 2-3 divided doses. I doubt you have been on this med long enough to be at anything other than a starter dose if you say you're taking 75. A psych MD who has some compassion for his/her patients comfort may start a patient on 37.5 but some people want to just get on with it and are willing to put up with any side effects and most do start right out on 75.

Now if you were on double that or more it would be more than just an annoyance--and side effects whoo boy talk about being uncomfortable and you just may be particularly sensitive going off the 75mg or have never experienced the side effects of withdrawl and don't know what to expect from your body. Sometimes it feels like you would just as soon crawl right out of your skin no matter how slowly you titrate down!

Sorry to say that after you have been on this med at higher doses you most certainly will have to just bite the proverbial bullet if/when you ever decide to stop them and yes, you better ramp down the dose under a doctor's supervision. It's not going to feel good no matter how slowly you decrease it--but it is imperative to do it slowly. Those with moderate depression do quite well on 225 per day but severely depressed can be on doses as high as 375. At that point, it's definately nothing to mess with!

 

[slaneyrose]

Ashley, I really hope you are ok by now. I am on effexor 75 twice a day and one time I got stranded on holiday and had only brought enough tablets for one day not two...well, I cant describe how ill I felt.....I really thought I was gonna die....and you have gone for FIVE DAYS?? What is you dr thinking of and what was his reason for telling you to just stop??? You have been given a lot of wonderful advise and caring support here...PLEASE listen and stand up for yourself!!! Go to ER as has been suggested (by Lyn I think) she knows what she is talking about but no-one can do it for you. Let us know you are ok.

 

[nootka]

I just thought I'd update that I talked to her at work and she's hanging in there, says she will be able to get her medication again tomorrow.

I figured a lot of you would be worried and I'd give you a bit of peace of mind.

Liz

 

[Happy Valley]

Hey Ashley,

Glad to hear you are getting your meds.

Cruiser would be sad to hear that you are having a hard time. I'll tell him his first Mom is doing OK now.

Stacye

 

[New_Image]

Never mind

 

[Russ]

Thanks for the update Liz. Hang in there Ashley, tomorrow will be a better day!

:

 

[Ashley]

Ok, im back from work. and I must say Lyn your post angers me to no end.

Yes I finally got through and I can get my prescript again tommorow moreing when they open up.

I started out at 37.5 and am now up to 75 for 3 weeks until I go back in.

Yes I have to be at work, if I dont go in I am fired. My boss is a pig head guy who expects us to call him god. I did try leaveing last night and was not allowed to.

NOt that this is your business lyn but with in the last week of being on the meds I was sleeping fine again. Getting a good 7 hours a night only wakeing up when the pups need to go out. I dont consider myself haveing pet problems, so I dont get where you are getting that.

The 25 mg pill ARE NOT the same as what I am suppoed to be on so it isnt as easy as just takeing 3 of them.

And those of you who think I wasnt trying, trust me I let them have it a few times when I called in.

I also am staying in touch weekly with my counsler who is working with my doctor on this. I am by the doctors orders going to a manditory psych evaltuation but it can take up to 2 months to get in there. SO we are doing what we can in the mean time to keep me going.

I have never had consentration issues so I also do not know where that is comeing from. I have no problem focusing and doing what needs to be done.

Nootka you know me better then that.

Oh and it really really really tickes me off about the suicide part. I am not ever a person who would do that. That is the most selfish thing a person could do. And if I ever(which I have not) got to that point I know enough to say something.

I am appauled that you think I would be that stupid.

And I am glad you think so highly of me to think this would be something I am jokeing about.

: You obviously do not know me, or my situation and would prefer you refrain from commenting about certian things in my life unless you know the whole story. Especially when it comes to my personal life and pets.

And I must say you cant know to much about the med if you did not know the starting does is 37.5 and that 75mg is not at all a high amount. Before i was put on this I was on 150 of welbutrin twice a day, and was taken off of that cold turkey as well.

 

[minih]

Oh Ashley, please do not be hard on anyone that has posted on this topic. I have caught myself coming back to this over and over the past several days just to keep a check on you. Mainly because I cared. I know the others do to, they only had your best interests at heart, please do not hold a grudge when actions were motivated by love and caring.

 

[lyn_j]

[SIZE=14pt]Ashley I am sorry that you are angry with me. You pmd me a couple times about meds you were taking and things that were bothering you but I guess you forgot. The suicide thing isnt saying that YOU would every want to do that. I know from experience with young people and Effexor that withdrawal from that HAS caused those thoughts in people who would not normally have had that ever enter their minds. Once you are altered by a medication even for the right reasons, the CHEMICAL DIFFERENCES FROM THE MEDS OR LACK OF THE MEDS on the now altered system can cause you not to be you. The things I worried about with you are purely related to that. It was not a personal attack on you or your personality. Once chemicals are introduced into our systems we are no longer the same people. Im glad that since starting the meds you have been able to sleep. Sleep deprivation can also do horrible things to you. Even tho you dont think that I care about you..... I really do.... everyone who feels the need to be angry with me that is your right but It was my responsibility as a former psych nurse to express my concerns based on my years of experience both as a nurse very familiar with this medication... Shirley those extreme high doeses are Not the norm as you said..... and from personal experience haveing taken it in the 75 mg twice a day does. I felt suicidal when I was titrated off even and suicide has never been an option in my life. So, Again Im sorry if I made you mad.... but I really do care what happens to you.[/SIZE]

Lyn

 

[Lisa-Ruff N Tuff Minis]

Ashley I am sorry you are feeling defensive, but you cant post all your personal issues here and in PM's with people and then expect people to not remember, and not care.

You posted here looking for advice and sympathy and got it, got plenty of people caring about you and giving you advice.

I am glad you got the meds worked out though and that you are feeling better there are people here that really do care

 

[Triggy&Blue&Daisy Too]

[SIZE=14pt]Shirley those extreme high doeses are Not the norm as you said..... and from personal experience haveing taken it in the 75 mg twice a day does. [/SIZE]

Ah excuse me Lyn, you may need to revisit my post, but I never said those were the norms. The average is usually is 150 mg, however if you are moderately or severley depressed those are the upper ranges for XR. I wouldn't expect you to know that, RN or not, if you haven't worked with meds for awhile, I do everday in my job, but no 75 mg is NOT a high dose of this med at all and there is no need to alarm or make assumptions about Ashley or anyone else regardless of your "experience." She may have frustrated you with the post or by ignoring your warnings but no reason to purposely get her or yourself upset her over it all. Not everyone is always going to listen to you, or me or anyone else so don't get so tweaked when they don't.

 

[Ashley]

Thanks triggy! My point exactly.

 

[lyn_j]

[SIZE=14pt]Thanks Shirley....but I have worked with these meds.....recently.... with patients.... and physicians. I only retired 2 years ago from inpatient care.... Psych nursing is my specialty. Any chemical changes work differently on every individual..... I still do psych evals as a consultant for a homecare company, therefore I do keep up to date on these issues. Your post with dosages included gives an inacurate picture. I know the other meds that Ashley has been on because she has pmd me before..... coming off of one, getting on another..... all affect the neuroreceptors in different ways. My post did not come lightly or off the top of my head. I do care and I have the credentials to coment appropriately. Weather people find it to their liking or not.[/SIZE]

Lyn

 

[Ashley]

For the record, I have been on lexapro, wellbutrin and now this. NOt that it really matters. The wellbutrin did nothing, but made me actually worse. THis med works well.

 

[Triggy&Blue&Daisy Too]

Lyn, Perhaps you need to drag out your PDR or Drug Facts and Comparisons for a refresher as I think you are confusing regular Effexor with the XR version regarding dosages but no need to argue about it when you can verify what I've said in black and white.