Minimor
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Forgot to say....that's my impression too!!
Miniature Hoof care for newbies ( Long)
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Minimor
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Well Reble, why don't you tell us YOUR interpretation of this article then, since you apparently don't agree with what we are saying....
You are dandy at posting links to all these articles, helpful or otherwise, but you rarely tell us what you have to say about the matter.
Please share!
Reble
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First this is for Newbies to learn Hoof care not how to trim a horses hoof.Well Reble, why don't you tell us YOUR interpretation of this article then, since you apparently don't agree with what we are saying....
You are dandy at posting links to all these articles, helpful or otherwise, but you rarely tell us what you have to say about the matter.
Please share!
Why do some have to pick one thing out of a topic and run with it, is beyond me. takes away from some that do like to give information that hope can help.
This forum is to share and to learn and yes, we all do not agree, but make your point than let it go..
Do not have to go on and on and on.
Since you mentioned I am dandy at posting links to all these articles, helpful or otherwise, but I rarely tell you what I have to say about the matter.
I will share!
What you guys took from this topic was something I did not see, but you sure made it the topic.
So I will share with you the information which I found interesting.
How to pick up a hoof and which way you should clean the hoof.
How to lift the back feet
How to tell if a horse has thrush
healthy hoof means balanced diet.
When to trim a horses foot. & they listed conditions that indicate trimming is necessary.
How to tell which leg your horse is lame in and more.
but everyone else I guess just seen newbies learning to trim their own horses feet.
While I hope I answered what you where looking for.
Looking forward to you reading more of my articles, helpful or otherwise.
MeadowRidge Farm
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I think on a forum of this size, you will find that there will be alot of differant views of what is posted, and taken in content alot of different ways. But, I do feel most of the links posted can be a learning tool , even if it is only to one person reading the article and they only remember one sentence out of it. They are learning weather it be good or bad.
As far as mini hooves go..I would say as long as you keep them healthy and in balance, with a proper angle, they are trimmed the same as a full size horse, but just keep in mind each horse is a individual and each hoof is trimmed to suit that particular horse, as no two horses will have the identicle shape to there hoof.
As far as mini hooves go..I would say as long as you keep them healthy and in balance, with a proper angle, they are trimmed the same as a full size horse, but just keep in mind each horse is a individual and each hoof is trimmed to suit that particular horse, as no two horses will have the identicle shape to there hoof.
MiLo Minis
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There was a lot of good, factual information in that article Mary, the problem is that when they start off with a blatantly incorrect statement you tend not to think they know what they are talking about and a lot of people wouldn't bother to read farther. I have an article on trimming Minis on my website complete with photos and illustrations that may be helpful to anyone that is thinking of trimming their own horses feet.
Minimor
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That you, that is exactly the problem in this case. The incorrect opening statement takes away the credibility of the rest of the article, and that's why it became the focus of the replies on here.
As well, this wording in the topic heading:
pretty much directed me to focus right on that opening statement!
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tagalong
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I agree with minimor, Jill and others... a hoof works the same way no matter what size of a horse it is attached to. The only difference would be mini foals - some of them have feet that need regular attention to keep the heels from rolling under.
Other than that - a balanced hoof is a balanced hoof. Form to function. And a newbie should not be messing with any of that.
Jill
Aspiring Cowgirl
This is drifting, but people should try to realize when you share something with a group as large as this one, you need to be willing to accept other perspectives than your own viewpoint and if you can't stand to do so, then consider not sharing with such a large group of people. In this case, it's not even the OP's own words but a cut and pasted article, yet apparently there's still room for taking other opinions too personally.
I usually dont reply to these kind of threads (even though this is what i do for a living) because of fall out
I have found that there is as many ways of doing this as there is as many people doing it
The WAY I do it is there are different trims for almost every class at a show and inbetweens
I can go to a new clients house and tell immediatly if a full size horse farrier did them before
and when you get to the corrective trimming it IS different then trimming a full size
It all boils down to one thing ......
WEIGHT
that has to be taken into consideration
Ok go ahead and fry me
but that is what i found has worked
I have found that there is as many ways of doing this as there is as many people doing it
The WAY I do it is there are different trims for almost every class at a show and inbetweens
I can go to a new clients house and tell immediatly if a full size horse farrier did them before
and when you get to the corrective trimming it IS different then trimming a full size
It all boils down to one thing ......
WEIGHT
that has to be taken into consideration
Ok go ahead and fry me
but that is what i found has worked
Reble
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It was not there to begin with added it because this became the topic.
So will remove it now...
quote: Jill:
This is drifting, but people should try to realize when you share something with a group as large as this one, you need to be willing to accept other perspectives than your own viewpoint and if you can't stand to do so, then consider not sharing with such a large group of people. In this case, it's not even the OP's own words but a cut and pasted article, yet apparently there's still room for taking other opinions too personally.
Oh Jill I have know problem with opinions, as you can see.
Will not stop helping here on the forum either.
I did not mind this topic going in this direction until it was just repeat repeat repeat.
Had nothing to help the newbies with, because I do not expect them to do their own horses hoofs.
Lets just let this go now, so this does not drift anymore.
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Genie
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I do agree with you. What you have said makes sense.
It was the "exactly" that got me, since you can not find hooves or horses exactly the same.
Sorry Reble, I know you want this to stop drifting, and again, your original topic was a good topic for all of us trying to be better animal caretakers.
Genie
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humour is a good thing . . . . you are batting a thousand todaydang i actually said something that made sense?
sorry have to ad some humor here
tagalong
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Why would anyone fry you?
You are just stating your observations and opinions based on your experience. Both the farriers I have had work on the minis I have been involved with were full size farriers as well - and handled many disciplines. And yet they also did the minis perfectly - and helped me work on problematical feet and those foals who needed more attention from the get go. Long before mini sized tools were available, they each altered their nippers etc. to make working on the minis easier... I doubt that you would have had an issue with either of them...
Humour is appreciated - and all threads tend to drift at times... that is just the way a message board works!
MiLo Minis
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If more experienced people hadn't chimed in on this thread a lot of newbies would have been left with the opinion that farriers that trim full size horses would not be capable of trimming their Minis as Minis need a different kind of trim which is just not true. They would have been trying to find a "Mini" farrier and those are few and far between because anyone that wants to make a living at farriering is happy to trim ANY size horse.
"I can go to a new clients house and tell immediatly if a full size horse farrier did them before
and when you get to the corrective trimming it IS different then trimming a full size
It all boils down to one thing ......
WEIGHT
that has to be taken into consideration"
This is true no matter what size horse you are trimming Hahler - think of a draft horse. If you are seeing a bad trim it isn't because it was done by a "full size horse farrier" but by a farrier that is not a good farrier. I used to trim all sizes of horses and saw both good and bad trims on all sizes of horses. I now trim ponies and Minis only because I am getting too old to want to contend with all that weight and I still see both good and bad trims.
"I can go to a new clients house and tell immediatly if a full size horse farrier did them before
and when you get to the corrective trimming it IS different then trimming a full size
It all boils down to one thing ......
WEIGHT
that has to be taken into consideration"
This is true no matter what size horse you are trimming Hahler - think of a draft horse. If you are seeing a bad trim it isn't because it was done by a "full size horse farrier" but by a farrier that is not a good farrier. I used to trim all sizes of horses and saw both good and bad trims on all sizes of horses. I now trim ponies and Minis only because I am getting too old to want to contend with all that weight and I still see both good and bad trims.
Told yaWhy would anyone fry you?
You are just stating your observations and opinions based on your experience. Both the farriers I have had work on the minis I have been involved with were full size farriers as well - and handled many disciplines. And yet they also did the minis perfectly - and helped me work on problematical feet and those foals who needed more attention from the get go. Long before mini sized tools were available, they each altered their nippers etc. to make working on the minis easier... I doubt that you would have had an issue with either of them...
Humour is appreciated - and all threads tend to drift at times... that is just the way a message board works!
MiLo Minis
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I would hardly call that a "fry"Told yaWhy would anyone fry you?
You are just stating your observations and opinions based on your experience. Both the farriers I have had work on the minis I have been involved with were full size farriers as well - and handled many disciplines. And yet they also did the minis perfectly - and helped me work on problematical feet and those foals who needed more attention from the get go. Long before mini sized tools were available, they each altered their nippers etc. to make working on the minis easier... I doubt that you would have had an issue with either of them...
Humour is appreciated - and all threads tend to drift at times... that is just the way a message board works!
Reble
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Here is more information on these people that trim horses.
http://www.indigocreek.com/kfme/main_about_us.htm
I did email them, and asked. If they would explain this for us:
A miniature's hoof is much different in care and repair than a full sized horse - We are experienced Miniature Hoof Care Specialists and understand the differences and unique care that a miniature horse requires and that most full sized horse Ferriers do not specialize in.
I hope they will reply.
http://www.indigocreek.com/kfme/main_about_us.htm
I did email them, and asked. If they would explain this for us:
A miniature's hoof is much different in care and repair than a full sized horse - We are experienced Miniature Hoof Care Specialists and understand the differences and unique care that a miniature horse requires and that most full sized horse Ferriers do not specialize in.
I hope they will reply.
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Jill
Aspiring Cowgirl
I agree with what you've said Milo and sure didn't see any frying, either
The article is definitely a sales tool / scare technique in my opinion. A hoof is a hoof and the differences you find are due to the individual horse and not the breed. Our farrier didn't do "mostly" minis (how could he and really stay meaningfully employed in this and most areas) but he always did a good job on my minis AND my Morgan and Quarab biggies.
Problem was getting on his schedule and since we were willing to learn, he was happy to help us. Now it's so much easier. Our horses feet look exactly like I want them to and we can trim a few at a time, or a lot at a time -- whatever suits our schedule and the horse's needs. We took our time, watched, learned and started alternating us doing them one time, the farrier doing them the next, until we were doing a really good job.
There are a lot of farriers out there who do do a poor job, but trust me, that is not exclusive the the trims they put on miniatures. I would be instantly skeptical of a farrier who told me I needed some kind of farrier who was specifically a mini expert to get a proper trim.
The article is definitely a sales tool / scare technique in my opinion. A hoof is a hoof and the differences you find are due to the individual horse and not the breed. Our farrier didn't do "mostly" minis (how could he and really stay meaningfully employed in this and most areas) but he always did a good job on my minis AND my Morgan and Quarab biggies.
Problem was getting on his schedule and since we were willing to learn, he was happy to help us. Now it's so much easier. Our horses feet look exactly like I want them to and we can trim a few at a time, or a lot at a time -- whatever suits our schedule and the horse's needs. We took our time, watched, learned and started alternating us doing them one time, the farrier doing them the next, until we were doing a really good job.
There are a lot of farriers out there who do do a poor job, but trust me, that is not exclusive the the trims they put on miniatures. I would be instantly skeptical of a farrier who told me I needed some kind of farrier who was specifically a mini expert to get a proper trim.
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