My mare won't get pregnant ~ I'm about ready to give up

[Miniequine]

This is Summer. She will be 10 this year.

She had a dystocia at 4 yrs. and has never

gotten pregnant since. She has been examined,

biopsy'd, cultured, regumate, AI...everything the Repro Vet

could do. He says she "should" be able to conceive.

Well, I'm about ready to give up.

Anybody out there have a situation like this that

you managed to get a foal??

 

[Magic]

What kind of dystocia did she have? Not sure that it makes a difference, but you never know.

Has your vet talked to you about Regumate at all? I haven't used it but it seems like many swear by it (IF the mare actually becomes pregnant and then loses the foal early).

Since your vet says she *should* be able to conceive, I guess all you can do is keep trying, or get a second opinion? I'm sure that it's very frustrating for you, she's a beautiful mare.

 

[CharmedMinis]

Hi Sandy,

I have a mare who had a really horrible dystocia as a 3 year old (previous owner).

I tried everything with her the last 3 years, with no luck. The only thing my vet can figure is that she has some small amount of scar tissue somewhere that is preventing pregnancy. He was never able to see any using ultrasound, but he said it would be hard to spot in certain places and it also depends on how much scar tissue there is.

He did say we could try to AI her to get past the live breeding process and see if she took that way. But I'm done breeding so we never tried it.

 

[Miniequine]

Thanks Magic and Charmedminis

I couldn't remember Regumate or AI thanks

We tried that.. no luck..

The vet did say she has some scarring

but he didn't think it was bad enough

to prevent her from conceiving.

It is so sad because she especially loves

the foals and is such a good baby sitter.

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I think she would such a good mommy.

Sandy

 

[Mona]

It is so sad because she especially loves

the foals and is such a good baby sitter.

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I think she would such a good mommy.

Sandy

:new_shocked: Not to mention...she's GORGEOUS!

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[minimule]

I don't know if it would really work but I've been told by someone that has experience with it.....

If a mare won't get pregnant when bred to a stallion, try breeding her to a jack. They said it works every time. Now that said,.....I just happen to have a wonderful jack and since she is not getting pregnant there.......we'd love to take her off your hands and give it a shot :bgrin

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[nootka]

I would urge you to contact Joanne Ross at Scott Creek.

I know she has had great success with subfertile mares and may have some suggestions for you.

[email protected]

Liz M.

 

[Marty]

Same exact thing here Sandy with my Silver Belle. Repro exam went fine and "no apparant reason" why she can't get pregnant. I give up. I figure that there is another reason why mother nature is declineing her, so I'm not going to pursue or push it anymore. She's a great babysitter.

 

[StarRidgeAcres]

I can't really tell from your post. Does she ever conceive and then slips the foal early or have you never been able to confirm that she's conceived?

I'm currently experiencing one that conceives, then loses it within the first month. We've done biopsies, a culture, multiple ultrasounds, etc. The culture came back positive for ecoli, which in turn was coming from her getting fecal matter into her uterus from when she pooped. We've had her flushed and recultured and everything is fine for the moment, but come spring, we may have to reflush and then do a caslicks (sp?) which is a surgery that helps keep the fecal matter from getting into where it shouldn't!

She's such a beautiful mare - it's a shame she isn't having a baby of her own. Is your vet a "specialist" in reproductive issues? If not, she may be worth the expense of finding one who is to examine her. I hope it all works out well for you both.

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[ionafarm]

Sandy,

Has rhe vet given her a reproductive grade, A,B, C, etc. Has she been hand bred or pasture bred? On occasion we have had a mare that wouldn't carry when hand bred, but just turned out with a stallion for the summer, they would get in foal. Some times less attemtion is better.

Gordon

 

[Loren&Rocky]

The best way to get her pregnant would be to put her in a pasture with a ugly grade stallion with an over bite and crooked legs!!! :lol:

 

[eagles ring farm]

The best way to get her pregnant would be to put her in a pasture with a ugly grade stallion with an over bite and crooked legs!!! :lol:

OMG I bet that would work :new_rofl:

 

[Miniv]

I agree with Liz. Joanne and Larry Ross are excellent resources for breeding and foaling issues.

Have to be honest, though. We've had a few wonderful mares that I would give my "eye-teeth" to be able to see what they produced, but Mother Nature had other ideas......Over the years we have spent thousands of dollars with reproduction vet specialists (two who have worked with Joanne Ross), medications, flushings and infusions (which we now know how to do ourselves).....etc....etc....

In the end we bowed to Mother Nature. We have learned after several heart aches, and much expense that the mares we should keep and breed are the ones that read the book "Blessed Are The Broodmares".

Our good, strong, problem free mares that have good conformation - crossed with stallions that compliment them, can't do anything but improve the future of both the miniatures and ponies. We can fight her, but in the end I swear that Mother Nature does know best, as cruel as she can be sometimes.

Good luck with what you decide.

MA

PS: I just showed the photo of your mare to my husband, Larry. He says -- "She's lovely! Tell her to give her away to someone and she'll be sure to get pregnant!" LOL!

 

[Miniequine]

Thanks for the suggestions and compliments

Minimule... LOL I bet she would have the cutest Long Eared baby

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Starridgeacres, no, she never concieves.

Her dystocia was not here, but I was

told the foal did not survive.

Gordon, she got a grade B. She was out with a stallion for two years at Rivers Edge

before she came to me. I do plan to let her stay with Little John. At least he can

have a companion and if something happens, well that would be COOL!

Liz, thanks.. I will contact them. Maybe, Maybe...

Heck, I'd even try un ugly, crooked legged thing stud if I thought it would work! hehehe

Just kidding..

Miniv, thanks, I too have spent a bunch of bucks and been rewarded with only tears...

This mare came to me very distrusting... For the first 18 months I had her...

Well, she had PERFECTED the game of catch me if you can... LOL (not so funny at the time)

She has come to trust me and I truly love her. She will be

here foal or not, but it sure would be nice

We did get her driving last year.

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~Sandy

 

[dmhstacy]

I am guessing you would of...... but have you tried different stallions?

 

[Tami]

Hi Sandy,

Hey, she is my boy's (Del Tera's Snowman) grandaughter isn't she?

I think I had mentioned to you about a mare I had. I bought her cheap because she was never able to get in foal. The previous owners had tried hand breeding, pasture breeding, different stallions, no luck. I loved her anyway so I just wanted her. Put her out with the herd and threw my stallion out to pasture breed the "breedable" girls. So when I was doing ultrasounds to check them, I had my vet do an ultrasound to see if she could see a problem. Well, that 12 year old maiden mare was in foal. She carried it to term but we were not able to get the foal out. She just didn't have enough room. She had a C section but we lost the colt.

Have you checked her Thyroid? I had another friend that had a mare that would never conceive. I told her to have the vet check her Thyroid and it was low. They put her on med's and surprised her owner the next year with a foal.

 

[Becky]

I have a 13 yr old maiden mare foaling this year. I hope!! I am her 3rd owner. I'm not sure how hard the first owner tried to get her in foal, but to my knowledge she did not. Owner #2 bought her at a sale and bred her through the season with no luck. Repro exam checked out fine. Then I bought her at a pet price late fall as an 11 yr old. Last year as a 12 yr old, I had my vet examine her and other than being too fat, he said she appeared normal. We put her on Thyro L, she came in heat I bred her and vioila, she is in foal for April this year! :aktion033: (Tami, you weren't supposed to tell us about foaling problems with an older maiden mare!

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I have the best luck breeding problem mares with just turning them out with the stallion.

 

[Tami]

Sorry Becky, I should have added it didn't have to do with her age......lol. She just had a narrow pelvis. Her dam has a narrow pelvis(Wow's dam) Her foals are small and they are tight coming out. This was a pretty good size colt too compared to the mare. There, hope that makes you feel better...lol. I do know of a mare that was 21 one when she had her first foal.....lol

 

[Becky]

Thanks, Tami! There is certainly a risk with an older maiden mare, but this mare is gorgeous and I am so hoping she becomes a permanent addition to my broodmare band! My vet did say she was 'tight' when he examined her, but thought a lot of it was fat. She put back on the weight she lost last year and I need to get it off of her. She's a porker!! LOL

 

[Miniequine]

Hi Tami,

Yea, Summer (Lucky Four Rowdys Radiant) is your boy's

grandaughter. :bgrin I think she looks a lot like him!

I did have her thyroid checked. Just fine .

Becky, did your mare test abnormal (thyroid?)

Summer has been bred by 3 different stallions since I got her

4 years ago, by live cover, parsture and AI.

It was so disappointing to go through all the tests and proceedures

and wait then ultrasound and no baby. The last time I did get

teary eyed... I decided, no more. The up side... I have

made lots of friends at the Equine Reproduction Center. They all

LOVE having the minis visit and roll out the red carpet for them

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Tami, too bad you lost the colt. That must have been hard.

Becky, best wishes with your maiden mare!!

~Sandy