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I know Mary, has been waiting for pictures and this one isnt the greatest. We have KaJ (his nickname) home and he is doing GREAT! Everything is working out great with Angle and him, which was my main concern. He is such a sweetie, and made himself right at home. He is 16 months old, a intact male (my choice on that..)We love him, and he seems to be a perfect fit to us. I was kidding Bob (hubby) that I would like to get a pair of Royal Standards yet. He didnt say NO..but he didnt say YES either...lol.. that would be down the road anyways, so I have lots of time to convince him on that...lol.. Here is our new furchild.. I will post more pics later or when I get some cute ones.

Corinne

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beautiful boy congratulations! What is a Royal Standard? Thought they only were toy, mini and standard... at least thats all I have seen at the shows. I love poodles. Had one about 10 years ago but he developed a brain tumor and we lost him.

Good luck with your new baby.

Lyn
 
I love reds...
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Just to clarify, there is no such thing as "Royal" Standard Poodles. Here's an excerpt from the Poodle Club of America's website that I linked to below:

"Teacup" or "Pocket" Poodles and "Royal Standard" Poodles

Responsible Poodle Breeders do not promote the sale of "teacup", "pocket" or "royal standard" Poodle puppies. This is a marketing ploy to sell the Poodle puppies for increased prices. Prospective Poodle puppy buyers interested in a small Toy Poodle or a large Standard Poodle can make their preferences known to their Poodle breeder. Most responsible Toy Poodle and Standard Poodle breeders are familiar enough with their family of dogs to provide information about size and other attributes.

http://www.poodleclubofamerica.org/breederref.htm

You also mentioned leaving your dog intact, and if your reason is for breeding purposes, I suggest you look into the health testing recommended by the PCA that should be done prior to pairing him with a suitable, tested mate. Another excerpt from the PCA:

Health Issues in Poodles

Many issues concern poodle breeders today, some which affect only one of the varieties and some which plague the breed as a whole.

Below we will try to provide some insight to the topics that are of concern to Poodle owners.

Addison's

Basic Genetics

Gastric Dilatation-Volvulus (Bloat)

Chronic Active Hepatitis

Cushings

Ear Care

Epilepsy

Hip Dysplasia

Hypothyroidism

Legg-Calve-Perthes

Patellar Luxation

PRA

Optic Nerve Hypoplasia

More Eye Health Links

Sebaceous Adenitis (SA)

Von Willebrand's disease (vWD)

Find out more through organizations dealing with these problems.

You can make a difference with these issues is by giving to the PCA Foundation, which is working hard to further the understanding of the diseases, genetic anomalies and injuries which affect these dogs.

http://www.poodleclubofamerica.org/health.htm
 
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Thank you everyone for your complimensts. We love him!

mininik, You might want to re-read my post. I never said that a ROYAL, was a AKC specific size. I am very surprised you dont know exactly what using the term ROYAL means.. All a Royal means is the largest and more massive type poodle, over your general standard size. Look them up ..you will find and see for yourself the differance. It is just a general clarification that your REPUTABLE breeders use, right along with the word TEACUP or POCKET, I do agree that the poodles should not be promoted using these WORDS. I can tell you everyone I know is a responsible breeder and they will tell you everything possible about poodles, and most of them are members of PAC. I have raised AKC dogs for years, and am also very well aware about testing with dogs. As far as "problems" EVERY breed seems to have its share, and any reputable breeder is aware of this and that is where the word RESPONSIBLE BREEDER comes in. All breeds should be researched before purchase for any new owner.
 
Congrats! I know absolutely nothing about poodles...is he considered apricot color?

He is very pretty...glad he is fitting in good with your family.
 
Hi Sonya, Thank you. He is registered and considered a red. You can tell the color of a poodle by there long hair on the ears. Apricot is alot lighter, if he was in a full long coat his color would be almost the red of a irish setter. He also has amber eyes.

Corinne
 
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You know, I did copy and paste those excerpts directly from the PCA website about Royals and health testing. No one said Royal was an AKC specified size, and actually I do know exactly what using that term means as far as breeders go and it translates to marketing ploy, which responsible breeders have no use for. It's like "Oorang" Airedales, "King" Dobermans, "Imperial" Shih Tzus, "Teacup" dogs, etc.; shammer breeders and shammed owners go around cooing about them like they're something special because of their size, and those who know better do their best to suppress a groan. As for health concerns, I do know that responsible breeders are more than aware of them and test their lines in hopes of creating the healthiest pups possible for educated buyers. I'm not sure why any of that information would be so upsetting to you, unless you plan on using a marketing gimmick to sell untested pups. If you do, and don't care, or what I said doesn't apply to you because you don't plan on breeding, just pass on the information and ignore it. Maybe someone else can learn something...
 
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Corrine, If I ever get another standard, I want the biggest I can get too! I have seen some pretty small standards at te shows, seems they win more but there was a VERY large black male a couple years ago at the shows that I drooled over! He must have been at least 22-24 inches tall.

Lyn
 
Well, Corrine, I was away with my daughter and grand baby shopping.

He is just such a sweet heart, and I think Phea Phea and him would make a great match...

Just kidding... He is adorable, I am so glad he is fitting in.

I am hoping on down the road to get a toy male poodle for my breeding dogs.

If hubby would not mind one more in our King Size bed & on his lap.

Keep what you like and leave the rest.
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Lyn it sounds like what you are describing would be considered a ROYAL by very respected breeders. They are beautiful and do stand out alot from the regular standard (ROYAL is not a AKC term) ) I seem to have upset someone by using the word ROYAL on here. I am drooling over a very large black male at the moment and she is expecting a little this May from him. He is so awesome. I am so glad you have seen the differance I am referring to in the standard poodle world.

mininik, I am not upset in the least about what you said. I did ALOT of research, I dont just copy and paste, I read and research! All I tried to tell you is that using the word ROYAL denotes the SIZE of a standard poodle, not AKC standards. Kind of like a Great Dane and a California Dane, both the same but denotes the built, (at least back when we BRED danes, which could of changed by now..that was 25 years ago) I NEVER said one word about breeding my new dog either, all I said it was MY CHOICE to have him bought as intact or cut. I prefer MY vet to do it..if I WANT IT DONE. Gee, didnt you say you have two poodles, do you breed? ..maybe its upsetting to you. I have nothing to be upset about, so why would you even mention that?? I only own ONE poodle, and I just purchased him. He is a companion for my Angel (who bty-is fixed!) We love our new furbaby, and all I did was show everyone his pic. Really sorry, if using a word you just dont "seem" to agree with upset you. BTY~~ I was at a AKC show, when I was introduced to the word ROYAL and was shown the differance, all from REPUTABLE BREEDERS not a one back yard breeder, but breeders, with years of experience behind them and there show dogs. It might help other learn as well, knowing what "they call" the largest of the large (standard) poodle.

Mary, I will send you some cute pics tonight. Hope you bought that adorable Grandbaby lots of goodies!

Corinne
 
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Don't you find it kind of "funny" that reputable Poodle breeders would use a word to describe their dogs that the Poodle Club of America (reputable Poodle breeders setting the standard for reputable Poodle breeders) says reputable Poodle breeders do not use?
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I added the breeding information to my post clearly stating it was there IF you planned on breeding, since you specifically mentioned leaving the dog intact. Most pet owners don't choose to keep their dogs intact for the joy of it, though some do it for health reasons, hence my use of the (as you might put it) WORD IF. You also mentioned something about possibly getting a "pair" of Royals later on, which I thought might be for breeding. You've since made it clear that you don't intend to breed your dogs (nor did I intend to grill you about it), so you could have just ignored the extra information. I wouldn't have even mentioned it had it seemed as though you'd done research on the PCA website, which clearly states that reputable breeders do not use the term Royal. If I am wrong, and they do, as members of the PCA, they should probably have a word at the next meeting they attend, since that probably doesn't look too good to prospective puppy buyers to hear one thing from a breeder, and read another from the breed club. As for determining if someone is a reputable breeder based upon their being at an AKC show, anyone can pair up a couple of dogs and call themselves a "breeder," or fill out a form and attend a show. There are even plenty of irresponsible breeders who have been breeding for years and own numerous Champion titled dogs, and that's not only in Poodles. Of course it should take more than the use of a silly term like Royal to make a breeder irresponsible, but if an otherwise reputable breeder shows and wins, does all of the health testing, and has a waiting list for puppies, one has to wonder why such a breeder would want to stoop to using a gimmicky description that their breed club doesn't agree with.
 
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I think your dog is lovely. I've wanted a standard poodle for years and hope one day to be able to get one.
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You know Mininik, No, I dont think it is funny or unusual to find out that a individual member doesnt always agree with EVERY word a club as to say. I am President and secretary of 3 large clubs, and I am well aware of "what we agree on , and what is actually thought and said" so no, not one bit unusual. For starters..it is MY business if I would want a breeding pair or not, if I want my dog cut or left intact...MY BUSINESS. I never asked ANYTHING about that, but you just had to make another comment, seems like with alot of puppy pictures that have been posted, you have comments to make. Now, your telling me I should of ignored the infomation when you are the one who got rather RUDE about the whole thing????? You know, I have read alot of your posts and I do have to say you seem to do more copy and past then anyone I know on this forum. Maybe you should try spending more time getting to know people, including breeders of "whatever" and listening to the real world rather then copying and pasting. and trying to impress people on here. For one ...me, for instance...I havent bred a single mare for 3 years, but yet I own 28, want to know why??? I dont breed anymore because I feel that is being a responsible breeder when the world is already over populated with so many unwanted horses. I know that has nothing to do with poodles, but is sure has to say something about me and being a responsible breeder, and the same would hold true IF I ever decided to get a BREEDING PAIR of ROYAL poodles. Gimmick..never, all it is saying is the size and built of a dog. How many names and phones numbers would you like me to send you of reputable people who would tell you exactly what you really dont want to hear??? I would love to have you tell them about your comment about AKC show people and anyone can fill out a form, it might be true for a very few but not the majority! Also, not that is is any of your business...but where my dog came from, she not only takes all her dogs to title, but continues on with them to make certified therapy dogs out of them. I guess in your book, because she will denote a certain style of dog as being a ROYAL,(or in your words STOOPING to use a gimmick expression) she would just be considered a irresponsible breeder out doing a marketing ploy with her dogs, and by the way..no she dont advertise her dogs, she has a huge waiting list, has worked on crossing the red color for years. You dont know her or anyone I know, you have no right to judge anyone without knowing them, weather it be insinuations or whatever. You never did answer..do you breed your dogs??? hmmm, I am surprised you didnt answer on that, leaves a person wondering. Its too bad, people cant come on here and post a pic of a new lifelong pal that they love, and are so happy about or puppies without you having to stoop to your comments which are not always construed as being very nice.
 
Do I breed my dogs? Nope. I have in the past, however, and I learned from it by, you know, researching and getting to know people (breeders and exhibitors) as you so politely suggested I try. I often copy and paste to provide credible sources to support my opinion. I'm not sure how it can be considered rude to discuss topics in such a way on an open forum. Like I said, if I were a reputable breeder and my breed club was telling my potential puppy buyers that I wasn't a responsible for using a term that is acceptable, I'd for sure have something to say about it at the next club meeting.
 

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