Since posting links seems the trend :)

[ozymandias]

As a human being I have nothing against this guy but as President of the U.S.A...do I want someone who seriously believes this c**polla - no frickin' way! If you can convince someone to believe this - then you can convince them to believe anything. As they saying goes "those who believe in absurdities can be made to commit atrocities".

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/may/30/mitt-romneys-religion-key-issue-bet

 

[Jill]

Seriously? The Mormon bashing again?

 

[andi]

Ozy, an important part of the trend, that you left out, is you have to laugh at the people while you "bash" them. You need to hide your opinion behind a joke, so atleast those with a sense of humor will have to agree with you or risk being called a stick in the mud. You are articulating too directly your intent, which makes you far to personally responsable for your view, and therefore an easy target for all us left leaning brainwashed lemmings.

 

[Jill]

This is how I feel about "The One Group (Some People Think) It’s Still Socially Acceptable to Bash".

In our modern society, we do not find it socially acceptable to bash, mock, ridicule or belittle people because they are:

• Gay
  
• From a different culture or nation
  
• Of a different race
  
• Experiencing poor financial circumstances
  
• Handicapped
  

However, we can watch media coverage, observe the happenings in our own towns, and read online discussions, including right here on LB (a tight nit group of people who often come together in prayer), and see that it IS still okay to bash, mock, ridicule and belittle people over their religious faith and convictions. This is most especially true if the people are Christian (in its various forms), Catholic, or Mormon.

For many people, their religion is as much a part of their personal being and identity as would be their race, nationality, sexual orientation, etc., yet it seems to be the ONE area that there’s a “blanket okay” to beat them up and make fun of them over this particular quality. And most especially if the person or people targeted are followers of a few “less favored” (by the haters / baiters) religions because it does seem certain faiths are off limits and are to be highly respected.

Think about it… if you compare the things the faithful are mocked for, and contrast that to how you’d feel if one of the itemized groups was mocked for something outsiders might see as equally hard to relate to, how would you feel? I bet a measurable percentage of you would speak up and even more would be very upset.

The definitions of hate and intolerance do not change according to the group that has befallen the attention.

 

[Jill]

Gosh, such a difference IMO from taking a *** at a politician or a political ideology than slamming someone's faith. Really and truly... I also think it reflects quite a bit on a person's character.

And you think 1/2 of the people on LB are Liberal? I think it's a higher number when it comes to people who chime in on LB. But, I am happy to know that is not the case when it comes to the USA population:

My view on liberals is truly best summed up through the current "Chick-Fil-A" controversy. Liberals are, once again, outraged because someone voiced their sincere opinion... yet is it not always the liberals who bleat for tolerance and understanding? Well, liberal hate and intolerance is, once again, on display for all to see. As much as I support equal marriage rights, I also support the right of others to voice their own sincere opinion. And, we'll be participating in:

 

[Jill]

Romney is getting CLOBBERED over there!!!

And the best news of all is..................... OVER THERE doesn't really matter. Not at all. None of them will be voting in the US Presidential Election.

Did you see the latest Rasmussen and Gallup polls yesterday? That's about likely AMERICAN voters, and It was all good news for Team Romney

 

[MountainWoman]

What is a liberal? I think of myself as fiscally conservative but socially very liberal so I think I fall into the Libertarian party. Romney doesn't speak to me at all. He's been around for years, running every election cycle and unfortunately (in my opinion), he's the choice of the Republican voters this year. I think there were far better candidates in the primary election.

As to religion, everyone should practice and be free to practice their beliefs and I don't want ultra conservatives telling me how to live my life because it's Biblical in their opinion. I consider myself a very religious person but I also believe in live and let live. We each come to God in our own way and religion should play no part in elections either to bash people of differing faiths or to expect people to conform to your belief of what is Biblically correct.

I know we'll all never see eye to eye on any of these issues but hopefully if we were to meet at Nationals or whereever, we'd be able to find some common ground and enjoy each other's company as I do enjoy these discussions.

 

[Jill]

MW, have you looked much at Libertarianism? What you say makes me think that might be the way you lean... I lean that way, but I realize that at this time, it's at two party system... and I will never again throw away my vote.

 

[Jill]

I did not read the article Ozy posted...

It was just about bashing Mormons. Again. I feel bad for any Mormon members here. While I am not a Mormon, I respect them and I will never have the opinion that faith is a reflection of personal weakness. It is an asset and I find it very distasteful when a handful of people decide to mock the faith of others.

 

[ozymandias]

Ozy, an important part of the trend, that you left out, is you have to laugh at the people while you "bash" them. You need to hide your opinion behind a joke, so atleast those with a sense of humor will have to agree with you or risk being called a stick in the mud. You are articulating too directly your intent, which makes you far to personally responsable for your view, and therefore an easy target for all us left leaning brainwashed lemmings.

Oh I'm sorry...I need to brush up on my sarcasm a little more so I can fit in with the group. Thanks Andi

Looks like his foreign relations are off to a jolly good start too

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jul/26/mitt-romney-olympics-blunder?newsfeed=true

 

[Jill]

Maybe... England just doesn't want to return that Winston Churchill bust that Obama famously banished from the White House?

And, of course, Brits will not be voting in this US election ... MORMONS will, though

 

[ozymandias]

Poor Old Mittens, Looks like he should save us tax payers a lot in foreign visits as even his own countrymen are suggesting he stay home lol.

Last time I looks the Brits were one of the only countries left still on our side.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jul/27/carl-lewis-mitt-romney-olympics

 

[Bess Kelly]

Could we pre-vote with "I don't like either one" .......... and get a new slate ? ! ?

It's sad, really. We are simply able to vote for the lesser of two evils --

The "situation" in which we Americans find ourselves is truly the result of many, many people and not JUST the president and it will not cure itself soon. We have issues with general bad behavior within the populace, the elected officials, policy and war --violence, drugs, health & values in general are declining. NOW, drought and higher food prices abound.

On top of all that, the price of horse feed and hay!!!!! Wish this was the only delimma.......at least that can be handled.

 

[ozymandias]

Could we pre-vote with "I don't like either one" .......... and get a new slate ? ! ?

It's sad, really. We are simply able to vote for the lesser of two evils --

The "situation" in which we Americans find ourselves is truly the result of many, many people and not JUST the president and it will not cure itself soon. We have issues with general bad behavior within the populace, the elected officials, policy and war --violence, drugs, health & values in general are declining. NOW, drought and higher food prices abound.

On top of all that, the price of horse feed and hay!!!!! Wish this was the only delimma.......at least that can be handled.

BK, Very well said, this is EXACTLY how I feel. I've been a life long voting Republican - I ask myself over and over "is this the best a nation like ours can come up with?"

 

[ozymandias]

You need to hide your opinion behind a joke, so atleast those with a sense of humor will have to agree with you or risk being called a stick in the mud. You are articulating too directly your intent, which makes you far to personally responsable for your view, and therefore an easy target for all us left leaning brainwashed lemmings.

Is this okay LLBL?

I'm not voting for a scientologist either....because I'm NOT posessed by aliens

 

[minimomNC]

I am democrate, was raised that way, my parents, grandparents etc were raised that way. Guess that again makes me the lazy, good for nothing liberal I have been called before, sit at home without a job and taking taxpayers money. Yep thats me or so I have been told. EXCEPT.... I have never been on welfare, never collected unemployment and while I don't own a company, I have worked a paying job since I was 14, yes I barned tobacco for three years to pay for things I wanted for school. I have held a job now for 38 years. I think the Chick-Fil-A thing is just plain stupid, my mom doesn't believe in gay marriage either but I am not fighting with her because I do, get real. Not all liberals think the same way so once and for all PLEASE STOP LUMPING US ALL IN ONE POT. And thank goodness not all republicans are the same either.

 

[ozymandias]

I am democrate, was raised that way, my parents, grandparents etc were raised that way. Guess that again makes me the lazy, good for nothing liberal I have been called before, sit at home without a job and taking taxpayers money. Yep thats me or so I have been told. EXCEPT.... I have never been on welfare, never collected unemployment and while I don't own a company, I have worked a paying job since I was 14, yes I barned tobacco for three years to pay for things I wanted for school. I have held a job now for 38 years. I think the Chick-Fil-A thing is just plain stupid, my mom doesn't believe in gay marriage either but I am not fighting with her because I do, get real. Not all liberals think the same way so once and for all PLEASE STOP LUMPING US ALL IN ONE POT. And thank goodness not all republicans are the same either.

 

[Jill]

On November 6, US voters have two (2) viable choices when it comes to the next President of our Nation. Two. Period...

But was that what this thread was about? Nope. It was, once again, about bashing religion and mocking those who have faith

 

[Jill]

Minimomnc... I am republican, was raised that way, my parents, grandparents etc were raised that way. Guess that means I take personal responsibility seriously. I have never been on welfare, never collected unemployment, I own a company and meet a payroll, I appreciate a financial bottom line. As an employer, I pay unemployment taxes which have multiplied 4 fold during Obama's administration. I have worked a paying job since I was 15. I have never used tobacco nor illegal drugs, but I do enjoy a good cocktail sometimes. I have held a job now for 29 years. I think the Chick-Fil-A thing showcases the intolerance of the most vocal liberals. My mom, dad, sister AND myself believe in gay marriage. The liberals who do tolerate opinions of others might want to speak up... and maybe also patronize Chick-Fil-A next Wednesday. Their grilled chicken sandwiches and chicken strips are really good

 

[minimomNC]

Jill, I never said anything against you about being a republican. I have never said anything bad about anyone being a republican, yet everything posted that doesn't agree with the way a "party" should think is bashed. You want to talk bashing, it shouldn't be tolerated in any form, yet its seems to be the only political way to campaign. If I don't agree with something the republican candidate says, then I am yet again the "lazy, good for nothing liberal" when in truth I just don't agree with a statement. The bottom line is, our political beliefs are our own business and NO ONE has the right to put someone else down because of what they believe, I don't care what it is. Just because I don't believe everything you say about political views, would never give me the right to say your beliefs are wrong. As humans, we all see things differently. I just don't understand why making someone look bad would ever make themselves look good. And its not just one party, its both I disagree with, how about we vote for the first candidate that will give up their salary for their term in office? How about one of them tell us what they can do to help the country without having to lie about it. How about acting like grown ups instead of name calling 10 year olds. How about being nice to each other because its the thing to do no matter what party you stand for, or is just to hard to be nice these days?