I have a friend who just bought her first two mini's a few months back...a 3 year old stallion and a 3 year old maiden mare. They were fine running together utnil just a month ago when the stallion started biting on her, trying to breed her, etc. Obviously she was in heat or coming in. It was so bad they had to be separated because he was drawing blood by biting on her back legs so much. They were separated for 10 days and put back together...he is doing the same thing. Are they going to have to be separated all the time now? I know people have run stallions and mares together without any problems.... any suggestions for her?
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RhineStone
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Yup, cut the stud! Unless you have a good reason to make more minis, there is no reason to have a stallion.
Eagle
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Yes, my stallion runs with my mares most of the time. I have no trouble as he is a real gentleman and never over steps the mark, anyway my mares would soon sort him out if he got a little bit too excited. He gets a holiday in the winter when I turn him out with the colts to teach them some manners.
It looks like this stallion has never learnt his manners!!.
I say cut him quick before he hurts her or himself. If he is this frisky he probably wont be very easy to handle.
It looks like this stallion has never learnt his manners!!.
I say cut him quick before he hurts her or himself. If he is this frisky he probably wont be very easy to handle.
LAminiatures
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Separate them. Geld him early spring or early fall. She will be glad she did. Normally a mare would not tolerate his behavior. This mare is not dominant enough to put him in his place. You will be so much happier with a gelding.
I agree , hes a bad mannered bully and the poor girl isnt able to stand up to him , I think its unfair to keep one stallion and one mare together because nature gave the stallion a good "appetite" as he would have several mares to breed with
bullockcorner
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Geld, geld, geld!!!! Absolutely!
Even if she does want this mare bred, it is unfair and unsafe to keep him a stallion just to breed one mare a year. As someone already said, a stallion is meant for several mares.
There are a lot of good stallions out there (some of them need gelded too), that I'm sure she could use. JMHO
Thank you all so much. I will let her know what the concensus is. I know she bought the two hoping to breed, but may have to do something different. And yes, the mare is a timid mare which probably isn't helping the situation any...
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I'd geld too, but to temper your expectations just a little, please know not all of that behavior is sexual. Some of it is social. He may exhibit these behaviors even after gelding.
The Vet can only do a castration, not a lobotomy.
Dr Taylor
The Vet can only do a castration, not a lobotomy.
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So that you and she feel better. I recently gelded a very aggressive stallion. We attempted to retrain his breeding behavior and even resorted to mild sedation so that we could have positive training lessons. It didn't work...imagine that.
He was gelded in Novemember and in January was a pleasant gelding that I could turn out without too much worry. While some of it is learned behavior, removing the source of the aggression (testicles) will help loads. There are WAY too many minis being breed anyway to put up with such behavior.
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I have a similar situation which I plan to remedy in the spring... This stallion tries to practically kill any other mini I put with him - gelding, colt, mare (to breed), or other stallion. However, he does just fine with our big horses... We have a Mustang mare that put him in his place as soon as he tried anything with her... But, as Dr. Taylor has mentioned... (lobotomy... lol!) castration may not do this guy any good... I still have not received his registration papers, so gelding him was going to happen anyway. I think, however, this guy needs a job and I would like to train him to cart. He's got very high action and with four white socks, he is stunning when he gets going! If his attitude improves after gelding and cart training I may hardship him into AMHA... Haven't decided yet.
He's a bay pintaloosa with blue roaning in the dark areas. His muzzle is dark as well - not the pink mottling that most Appies have... He's quite stunning!
Kari
He's a bay pintaloosa with blue roaning in the dark areas. His muzzle is dark as well - not the pink mottling that most Appies have... He's quite stunning!
Kari
Great advice!
Riverrose28
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This subject is ironic! I just discussed with my Vet yesterday. I have a three year old colt, that was an angel until he dropped, now mind you we have four stallions all of them where young when purchase or home bred, they know how to behave, this three year old pushes all my buttons. He is not stallion materal and will be gelded next month. He has great conformation and good color, but not stallion attitude. they say a good stallion makes a good gelding, and he is not a good stallion so I am hopeing he makes a descent gelding. I would go with the others and get him cut ASAP. This perticular colt I would throw out with some boss mares, but I don't want them bred, so he has got to be cut.
He hasn't exhibited any aggressiviness otherwise... he really is a nice little guy....just seems to be Jekyll and Hyde when it comes to mares. don't know what she will decide. Is there any way to teach him \'manners' around mares?
Reble
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Can try putting him on a long lead and have a crop at your side, and walk him to the mare, if he acts than take him away and make him trot, than try again, repeat repeat.
Possible he has not bred before so does not know how to handle himself.
I do know some big horses have to be taught manners when breeding.
Some horses can only be hand bred.
I would not leave them unattended if she is in heat.
Years ago we raised Paso Finos and was shocked how our young stallion was attacking our mare that was in heat, and had her ear bleeding, we did some hand breeding training and he produced lovely foals with good attitude.
He went on to pasture breed after his first year of breeding.
So in our case, he had to be taught manners on how to breed and be a gentle..
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Please keep in mind that in this particular situation, the result may be that the Mustang will kill the Mini, in which case the only thing you will have to worry about is disposing of the body.
I agree there Songcatcher!!
In regards to this, if the stallion is this aggressive, retraining may not work in a pasture condition either if he just has that type of temperment.
Had a friend who had a stallion who was just awful and extremely aggressive. They quit breeding with him and gelded him at about 7 or 8 years old. He is now a YOUTH show gelding and is doing great. This horse was really mean around other horses before he was gelded.
I would be concerned too with an inexperienced stallion owner trying to retrain some 'nice manners' into a young stallion that is full of himself.
In regards to this, if the stallion is this aggressive, retraining may not work in a pasture condition either if he just has that type of temperment.
Had a friend who had a stallion who was just awful and extremely aggressive. They quit breeding with him and gelded him at about 7 or 8 years old. He is now a YOUTH show gelding and is doing great. This horse was really mean around other horses before he was gelded.
I would be concerned too with an inexperienced stallion owner trying to retrain some 'nice manners' into a young stallion that is full of himself.
