Stallions- I need suggestions

[zoey829]

I have one stallion, and he is awesome. I really want another one to get different lines (a double reg leporad app with few spots and pref a NGC). I want to get this stallion in the spring (once all my money is saved). But I was looking for some to take my stallion for a few months and they could use his servce for no charge. Then I would take him back in the winter. My husband is against this idea. He thinks no one will love him like he does

He thinks the stallion will be upset. But I am too afraid to have 2 stallions.

Any other ideas. I have a friend who would gladly take him but my husband doesnt like her fencing. Even though he doesnt challenge and acts like a little girl he is worried.

 

[HGFarm]

I think your husband is right to worry. If there is a problem with the fencing, then it is not suitable for a stallion. He may not try to get out of the fencing at your place because the fencing is a suitable and safe fence for him.

I also would worry about the condition of the horse- coming back in the same condition he left in. Is he going to be fed correctly- too little or too much? Quality feed? Is he going to be treated right? Is his health care and feet trimming etc... going to be maintained as you like?

Once he leaves your place it is out of your control, so remember that when you decide to send him somewhere.

When I leased a stallion I got several references and really checked the place out thoroughly before he left. This was a few years ago, and he has had wonderful care. The people ended up purchasing him and he has had the best home with her.

 

[yellerroseintx]

IMHO..if you are afraid to have 2 stallions than don't....maybe it is not yet the right time for you to take on this venture...concentrate on the one you have to make him the best he can be. Even if someone took your boy for the summer he would be coming back in the fall and you would face the issue again.If this is a stallion you know, the appy....maybe use your saved money for a breeding to him.

 

[zoey829]

How does leasing work? This was a firend of mine that I was going to do this with free of charge; I know she would take care of him but I worry. Maybe I could just lease a stallion and still keep my stallion penned off just for a couple months. How would leasing work? Would a pay a flat fee or a monthky fee? For how long?

 

[Marnie]

It's not hard to keep 2 stallions if you are set up at all and have decent fences. All you need is a pen between them and it doesn't have to be real big either and good enough fence so they don't get out. They get used to each others presence. But I do agree, if you're worried about it, you know your situation better than we do, then you maybe shouldn't do it.

 

[zoey829]

The problem is my land is all open. I cant keep them anywhere without them seeing each other. How big of an area should I pen off? My husband can put a fence up with no problem. Thanks for the suggestions.

 

[Katiean]

I know a few breeders that even keep stallions together or turn them out together. I would not worry about them "Seeing" each other. You don't want to isolate them. They will go nuts.

 

[Marty]

I'm set up to have more than one stallion.

It's not difficult.

They can see eachother or not depending one which fields I want to use.

Fence and cross fence.

Leave a little "alley way" between the two fence lines where the two stallions will be, I find is the best way so they don't actually share the same fence line. We recently re-fenced and did that. I have a space like that big enough to get the large mower inbetween them, plus hot wire. They can visit by the fences and become friends but cannot get to each other. If I did have a stallion that looney as to cause problems or charge into the fence at another stallion, he'd be out of here.

You can put a shelter right out there if you want to so they won't have to share the same barn.

But mine do, no problem.

I wouldn't lease the horse.

If you don't want or need him any longer than why not just sell him?

Or get him his own mares.

 

[shazzyear]

hi, i let a freind take my older stallion for a few months this year. Casper went to there place with great stable & breeding manners. he was there just to breed there 3 mares. well they took an out side mare with out telling me. ( i just happened to stop when they were getting ready to breed her. ) any ways i took my stallion back then & he came home with very bad stable & breeding manners.

i did get his manners back. but please keep this in mind.

 

[zoey829]

Thanks so much. You are right about the manners. My stallion is so well mannered you would think he is an old gelding.

My property is all open and sectioned off into 3 section. No matter where I put him they will share a fence line. How much space is needed? an acre? Putting wood up around an acre would be costly. I could do hot wire and space between like suggested.

 

[mininik]

How many mares are you planning on breeding? Why not save yourself some trouble (and likely some money, too) and breed to outside stallions?

Otherwise: HOT FENCE works.

 

[zoey829]

I guess I could lease a stallion. That might work, too. Depending on the price. I am looking to breed 5 mares to a different stallion.

 

[chandab]

When I was in college I worked for an Arabian Ranch, they had at least 10 stallions on the place at any one time. They were all housed side-by-side in the big barn with big runs off their stalls. They could see and smell each other everyday and were all very well behaved. [The stallion stalls ran down one side of the indoor arena with an isle between. ] When it was time to breed a mare, they had a location in another barn, away from the stallions main living quarters; and that is where they took the stallions to breed the mares; all were hand-bred.

I never saw a single squabble between the stallions. I found it amazing. My boss didn't allow bad behavior in her stallions; most if not all were all show horses and had impeccible manners in the show ring.

So, housing in close proximity can happen without negative consequences.

 

[txminipinto]

We currently have 4 stallions on our place. They are stalled directly next to each other with mares in the barn. Occasionally, we have minor injuries (scrapes, welts, etc) from squabbles through the stall walls but nothing serious that needs a vet's attention. Just like mares and geldings, they work out their pecking order. Of course, when a new stallion is added there's always squeeling and kicking for a few days but they soon quite down. Also, I'd never own one stallion, much less house 4, without the aid of a hot fence.

That said, it is MUCH cheaper to breed to outside stallions than to maintain your own (even if you leased him).

 

[wildoak]

My two stallions can certainly see and smell one another. They are in runs behind my barn, with a run of geldings between them. I do have hot wire on the fence, makes a believer out of most stallions LOL. I also keep one mare with each stallion year round now, and find that it has done wonders for their disposition. She will come out at foaling time and be switched out for an open mare.

As long as you have at least an alleys width between them - and good fences - you should be okay. That too depends on the individual stallion though. Affirmed Royalty spent years kicking down gates when someone he didn't like was on the property, and will still kick a gate just for sport every so often but since he's had his "wife" he has mellowed considerably. The others have always been okay as long as they didn't share an immediate fenceline.

Jan

 

[yellerroseintx]

when I had 2 stallions they ran together and had a ball! They became very good friends and kept each other in great shape..now that I only have one I know he misses his buddy.......this worked for me , but all stallions are different.

 

[lilfolks]

I have 3 stallions here and each has their own stall and their own lot. No problems.

Joyce L

 

[Tammie-C_Spots]

I've leased lots of horses over the years of all ages. Number one thing is have a written contract and specify that if he's neglected, abused or suspected of neglect you can come and get him at any time without prior permission wherever he is at the time and take him. I have that on all my contracts and not one person has questioned it. I've never had to follow up on that one thank goodness. The key I think is doing your homework beforehand and making sure they have the right facilities and think about horses the way you do. You can keep two stallions but it's a pain in the neck. Get it all in writing, that's what I'd suggest and if the fencing is not stallion safe I'd have to agree with others that it wouldn't work.

Good luck

Tammie