Suzie had a gorgeous little colt

[Wings]

I actual prefer the girls to be a bit leaner as well, but whatever weight they are at when they hit the final month they tend to stay there as at that point I don't want to risk cutting out anything vital. I really don't like messing about with feed with lactating mares!

Cassie if you are worried about fat content have you considered Hygain Studtorque? It has half the fat content of the Breeda. But like any grain or hard feed best to swap it over gradually.

 

[AnnaC]

Renee, I think she is just PERFECT!!

 

[cassie]

Thanks for the advice everyone

Suzie doing really well again this morning... I rang the vets this morning, the receptionist said she would get the vet to ring me back... haven't heard anything yet... but will keep on waiting.

going to the feed store later today going to get another mineral block n see what the girls think I should use... they are excellent down there.

I don't plan to cut out her food at all! I wanted to slap him when he said that hehe.... but you know I never would LOL

as you all know I love my ponies VERY VERY much and when someone comes up to me and says that I'm doing the wrong thing lol well I'm sure you would all feel the same way.

But I don't care... I'm going to do what is best for Suzie and Finn and anyone who doesn't think I'm doing right can just stick it!! hehe

I decided that I can't just all the sudden take the chaff off her all together, but I'm going to change her to a wheaten chaff rather then oaten as its not as hot... (for laminitis) and is also drier and doesn't have as high fat content. I will be making subtle changes and see how she goes. but there is no way that I would stop feeding her!

I'm also going to see what they think about using founder guard... which if its ok to use I will use until I get her weight down just to make sure... apparantley it is VERY uncommon for a lactating or pregnant mare to get laminitis/founder which is good but I don't want to risk it!

Renee your girl is Simply GORGEOUS!! love her fat tummy!

and so wooly already! is that Brit? who is she in foal to?

Thanks again everyone! you have helped me so much through this and I can't express my thanks enough! THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!!!!

 

[lucky lodge]

iam so glad to hear suzie is ok

 

[cassie]

Thanks Diane,

I'm sure it would be easy lol I prefer the lush green grass look (as I'm sure you do too )

vet still hasn't rang me back and neither has the farrier grrr.

I have got an ivermectin wormer to give to Finn, it has ivermectin and praziquantal... should that be ok to use??

will wait for your advice but I'm going to be worming the little man soon LOL see how he likes that!

 

[Lindi-loo]

Youe doing a great job Cassie and yes its nice to have lots of advice from everyone but as you said shes your pony you know her best and your the best person to decide whats best for her..

lotsa bests in that sentence but then its the best way to put it lol

..i will leave the best wormers for Finn to the experts as its always leaves big question marks in my head what to use next

Best of luck

 

[Lindi-loo]

I love this mare shes gorgeous..just my type

chunky and of course in the best colour wollies

 

[AnnaC]

With your worming of Finn Cassie, you should really aim for just Ivermectin. The Praziquantel is for tapeworm and it is very unlikely that Finn has tapeworms (actually very few horses have tapeworms, but we do worm adult horses for them as a precaution). Also the advice given re Praz is that it should not be given to foals under 3 months of age to be safe. So stick to the ivermectin or another mild wormer - as you wormed Suzie as soon as she foaled, it is unlikely that Finn has any worms other than the normal round worms that babies can get.

Hope you hear from your vet soon - it is a bit naughty of them not to return your calls!

 

[Eagle]

The vet told me to worm for Tape Worm in the Autumn when there is frost as this will kill anything that comes out alive

I always do it once a year in fact I will be worming with Strongid-P this week.

Cassie I do exactly as Diane has said: Panacur followed by Ivermectin the second time.

 

[AnnaC]

If I remember correctly Cassie did worm Finn at a month old, so this would be his second wormer. Like you I also worm my lot for tapes around October time each year, and then for bots at end Dec/beg Jan.

 

[Eagle]

Bots, aggghhhhhhh I remember them nasty little eggs,

luckily that is one of the few good things about this country,

NO BOTS

 

[AnnaC]

Lucky you Renee, or rather lucky horses!!

As I understand it, if ALL the horses in the UK and Ireland were wormed for bots for a couple of years or so, then we could be free too!

On second thoughts, what actually kills the bots in Italy - what about bot eggs that are imported by horses coming in, do they just die, if so what causes them to expire???

 

[cassie]

ok I will try and find a safe one for Finn, going to the other feed store on Thursday... they might have something suitable...

oh I haven't wormed Finn yet at all... was I meant to? I thought it was best to leave it till they were 6 weeks...

I did worm Penny and Smartie about 2 weeks ago... maybe thats what has gotten you confused Anna?

Andrew my middle brother is graduating from year 10 and they are having a lunch at our house on Friday, so we have been tidying up, getting the pool ready and such, the only problem is, is that we are going to have about 30 kids at our house... while I'm at work... and they will see Suzie and Finn!!

but I lay down the law and told Andrew that under NO CIRCUMSTANCES are they allowed to go into the paddock with Suzie and Finn!!! lets hope they don't disobey! I'm going to be telling his teacher too! I won't let anything happen to any of my ponies, from the bratty kids! will let you know how we go with that...

oh I heard back from the vets... she thought it was VERY strange and didn't have any real ideas on what it could be,

I mentioned about the hypoglycemia and she said if it was that, she wouldn't have been better the next day...

so I will keep a close eye on her and if she does it again I will ring the vet straight away...

its been raining here so ground is too wet to catch any urine samples but I'm going to try duct taping the pad to her tonight... any ideas of what sort of tape to use? I suppose cos she is quite dirty its going to be hard to stick anything on... but I will try... LOL

 

[Eagle]

Lucky you Renee, or rather lucky horses!!

As I understand it, if ALL the horses in the UK and Ireland were wormed for bots for a couple of years or so, then we could be free too!

On second thoughts, what actually kills the bots in Italy - what about bot eggs that are imported by horses coming in, do they just die, if so what causes them to expire???

I am not sure what it is Anna, maybe it is the heat? I have seen them on horses that we have bought from the north of France but I just scraped the eggs off and then burnt them, problem solved! Maybe they don't like pizza

Morning Cassie

 

[AnnaC]

Morning Cassie.

Glad the vet finally got back to you. I do agree with her in part, as I also understood that if it was hypo then Suzie would have got worse. But remember Lindy's mare, who has had several 'attacks' that have been controlled by Lindy spotting it early and giving her the appropriate 'food'. It is possible that as you got some sweet feed into Suzie so fast you might have put off a full blown 'attack'?? I dont know enough about the problem to say for sure, so I would just keep a good eye on our special Suzie - and get others in your family to have a quick check in the day when you are working.

Sorry, I didn't realise that Finn hadn't been wormed already, not that it matters too mch as you had wormed Suzie, but yes, you need to use a gentle wormer for the first time.

Good luck with the party - hope they all behave themselves!

 

[lucky lodge]

have we got any pee pee yet LOL

 

[cassie]

Morning Cassie.

Glad the vet finally got back to you. I do agree with her in part, as I also understood that if it was hypo then Suzie would have got worse. But remember Lindy's mare, who has had several 'attacks' that have been controlled by Lindy spotting it early and giving her the appropriate 'food'. It is possible that as you got some sweet feed into Suzie so fast you might have put off a full blown 'attack'?? I dont know enough about the problem to say for sure, so I would just keep a good eye on our special Suzie - and get others in your family to have a quick check in the day when you are working.

Sorry, I didn't realise that Finn hadn't been wormed already, not that it matters too mch as you had wormed Suzie, but yes, you need to use a gentle wormer for the first time.

Good luck with the party - hope they all behave themselves!

Thanks Anna

yeah I am keeping a really good eye on her, I'm trying to balance her diet so I can cut down her weight and yet not cause another attack...

how long until I should start seeing a weight difference in Suzie? should I still keep up the amount of hay I'm giving her? obviously she is getting more while she is in the stable all day with the rain...

but I just want to make sure I'm going right by her...

Suzie is very smart, she hasn't even been trying to get out of the stable

clever girl, she realises she will get wet and cold if she goes out into the paddock and that her baby will get wet n cold too... brrr Finn's coat is starting to get a really healthy shine to it!

oh n he is a little porka fatty too! what a tummy he has! hoping its not worms, but I don't think so as he is otherwise healthy and I haven't noticed any in his poops.

he is eating alot of hay now, n liking the breeda, should I let him just eat as much as he wants of Suzie's food or should I put Suzie's hay up higher so he just gets the bits that fall down? I don't want him to get fat LOL

Thanks everyone, sorry for not being around much atm...

 

[Eagle]

Cassie I would let him munch whatever he wants as he is probably only playing.

Good luck with the party today

 

[AnnaC]

I agree Cassie. As long as Suzie's food is safe for him to eat, then let him help himself to what he wants. When she eventually gets fed up with 'sharing' or sooner if you think he is eating too much, then give him his own little bowl.

As for hay, well once again just let him eat what he wants - remember the hay needs to be soft/leafy and not stalky/hard in any way (hard/semi hard hay will be difficult for him to digest and can cause a 'hay belly' on some youngsters.)

How did the party go??

 

[Eagle]

Please pray for Finn, I have spoken to Cassie and he is not well

Vet is on his way