[SIZE=14pt]I took Roy to where I board Magic because its right by my house and was playing around in the indoor riding ring with some jumps (big horse jumps) and started out about 10 inches then 30 then 40 and we got up to 1 meter and 50cm!!THATS INSANE!!He wasnt even breathing and could have gone higher but I decided to kewl it!!Just thought I would share my lil mans big heart and his love for jumping!!!SRY if I am bragging but please share your storys!!I love hearing about incredible things![/SIZE]
THIS IS INSANE!
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Danielle_E.
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I have one like this but I haven't pursued the jumping with him. He is my gelding, Storm, and he LOVES to jump. When I was boarding my horses, full size and my minis we also had an indoor arena and I had put Abby (one of my mares) and Storm out int the arena. I decided to exercise them and put some small jumps up and see. WELLOne Ritz-C-Kid said:
rabbitsfizz
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Since that is about 4 ft 6 ins I would say it is...INSANE!! What on earth are you doing?? This could be lethal, let alone crazy!! Stop now.
rabbitsfizz
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Sorry folks, there is NO way I would ever ask a little horse to jump that high. One of the reasons we fixed the heights of the fences in Dog Agility was just so no crazy person set out to find out how high their dog could jump. (For the record my 25" Dobes have little problem clearing six foot- which is what they are asked to do in Working Trials, which is why I do not do Working Trials!!) So- the jumps a re set at 30", IMO a good height for a dog to jump, BUT it is the fastest clear round that wins. Why is it necessary to find out how high they can jump?? Who cares??? It is not the going up that does the damage, anyway, it is the coming down.
And, believe me, it does do damage, no getting away from it.
Set the height at around two foot and set either a "style" or "speed" requirement.
We are not supposed to be testing the endurance of our horses.
We are supposed to be testing the ability of the handler.
After all, if you just turned the horse loose in an arena full of jumps how many would actually go round the jumps in the order set out and jump each one, in turn????
And, believe me, it does do damage, no getting away from it.
Set the height at around two foot and set either a "style" or "speed" requirement.
We are not supposed to be testing the endurance of our horses.
We are supposed to be testing the ability of the handler.
After all, if you just turned the horse loose in an arena full of jumps how many would actually go round the jumps in the order set out and jump each one, in turn????
Black Magic
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Our Magic (gelding) was in his barn one day, and I asked hubby to cut the door in half so that Magic could look out if the weather was nice. Well, no sooner had hubby cut the door at 40"s high... (Magic's 36")he was standing next to hubby checking out his tools. So of course I asked hubby what good that was going to do when Magic could just jump out from a standstill. So we got a newish barn for just minis... and I had "U" shaped gossip doors made, so that the small minis could look out, and the doors would keep Magic in. Well, the top of the doors were 45"inches. So I felt pretty safe when he stayed in his stall. One morning, I went to the barn, and before I opened it, looked in the window. Magic was out of his stall, just checking out where I had stored extra hay up in the loft.. (some of it had sort of stuck out). As soon as he heard me start to open the door, there he went.. he jumped back in the stall again. He turned to look at me, I swear he was saying..
"I was a good boy!" Lol..
Then I was working on jumping our mare and doing grids with her. She's a bit lazy and drags that back leg on the grids and I hear this "thonk" when her last hoof hits the wood. Well, she does little jumps without a problem, so I was jumping her, and then I'd trot her around the outside of the house. The kids were giggling and laughing from the steps of the house so I stopped to see what was so funny. Here Magic was going over the jumps and following in back of our QH. The kids said he stayed a car lenght in back of her at all times, but did everything she did. They said he jumped the same height she did but then he even dragged his one back leg when he went to walk over a pole. Lol.. So anyway, next jump I did, I turned to look in back of me, after I brought our mare to a stop. When he saw me looking... he ran ... heck ducked..
. under the jump... Lol.. (It was just a hair taller then he is... )
Horses are such a joy... they seem to have such a sense of humor.
As much as I discourage this boy from jumping..
. I just can't seem to stop him. He knows I worry about him, but heck, give him a standing jump
and so far, there isn't anything he's missed. At least when he follows the QH he runs at the jumps. I guess I should tell him, you can't jump when you're standing still! Lol..
Then I was working on jumping our mare and doing grids with her. She's a bit lazy and drags that back leg on the grids and I hear this "thonk" when her last hoof hits the wood. Well, she does little jumps without a problem, so I was jumping her, and then I'd trot her around the outside of the house. The kids were giggling and laughing from the steps of the house so I stopped to see what was so funny. Here Magic was going over the jumps and following in back of our QH. The kids said he stayed a car lenght in back of her at all times, but did everything she did. They said he jumped the same height she did but then he even dragged his one back leg when he went to walk over a pole. Lol.. So anyway, next jump I did, I turned to look in back of me, after I brought our mare to a stop. When he saw me looking... he ran ... heck ducked..
Horses are such a joy... they seem to have such a sense of humor.
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Sue_C.
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What concerns me in this instance, isn't so much how high the horse is jumping, but the fact that he is jumping "big horse" jumps.
The reason minis are to jump smaller, lighter, jumps, is so that the jumping-pole, if hit, will fall; rather than the horse going down. What you are doing, is very dangerous for the horse. If he hits one of these heavy poles, he will, in the very least, fall. Hopefully, without the eight foot jump-pole, and heavy standards landing on top of him as he goes down.
And yes, I know they can fly when they want to...I have a few that would jump anything I allowed them to. I have one that will free-jump (without halter or lead) the entire ring full of jumps if I run beside him...
The reason minis are to jump smaller, lighter, jumps, is so that the jumping-pole, if hit, will fall; rather than the horse going down. What you are doing, is very dangerous for the horse. If he hits one of these heavy poles, he will, in the very least, fall. Hopefully, without the eight foot jump-pole, and heavy standards landing on top of him as he goes down.
And yes, I know they can fly when they want to...I have a few that would jump anything I allowed them to. I have one that will free-jump (without halter or lead) the entire ring full of jumps if I run beside him...
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Wow--that is pretty impressive! Some minis are amazing jumpers. As others have said, though, it is really important to get your horse in condition before doing high jumps on a routine basis, or you could really hurt him. Even though he really loves it, horses often don't know what's best for them! But now that you know how much he loves jumping, and that he has such a talent for it, why don't you devise a training program for him, and work up in height gradually? You could even try showing him--you would do really well even at the AMHA World show with a horse that can consistently jump that high! Also, as was also mentioned, make sure that whatever jumps you are using have poles that are light enough to fall down if he ticks them--otherwise he could either get hurt or really scared if he hits a jump and it doesn't come down. You could try getting some PVC pipe that you could put on the big horse standards instead of the regular pole.
The only AMHA/AMHR class where the handler is judged and not the horse, is showmanship, and even in this class, the horse's ability (eg: to pivot, set up, etc.) is judged to a certain extent.
Actually, here in North America, our Hunter and Jumper classes are designed to show the ability of the animal rather than the handler. In fact, you could go around the course jumping on one leg, and as long as your horse cleared the jumps, nothing would count against you.rabbitsfizz said:
rabbitsfizz
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That is not what I meant.
I meant we are not supposed to be pushing our animals to their utmost limit in order to show how clever we are- I just tried, initially at least , to couch it in milder terms.
We are not supposed to be testing the limits of the horse, then, if you will, rather the ability of the handler to take it around the course correctly. I tried for years to teach my dogs to read an Agility course but failed to do so, just how many horses turned loose in an arena would jump at all, let alone in the correct order.
Thus it is a test of the handlers skill, their ability to remember the course, to judge the speed, the distance, etc, rather than that of the horse, which just does as it is told.
Irrespective of how well the horse performs- that is down to good training, and innate ability.
I meant we are not supposed to be pushing our animals to their utmost limit in order to show how clever we are- I just tried, initially at least , to couch it in milder terms.
We are not supposed to be testing the limits of the horse, then, if you will, rather the ability of the handler to take it around the course correctly. I tried for years to teach my dogs to read an Agility course but failed to do so, just how many horses turned loose in an arena would jump at all, let alone in the correct order.
Thus it is a test of the handlers skill, their ability to remember the course, to judge the speed, the distance, etc, rather than that of the horse, which just does as it is told.
Irrespective of how well the horse performs- that is down to good training, and innate ability.
midnight star stables
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If this counts for anything, Roy is 35''. My midnight /loves/ to jump, but cause of his age I ain't saying anything.
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Well first off you have a very talented horse and unlike rabbit I do think that horse shows and activities in all disciplines are about testing the limits of both horse and handler/rider.
If not.. sure would get pretty boring.. there would be no grand prix classes as they would be no different then the schooling show jumps doing 2 -3 ft fences. Would be no different levels in dressage or endurance if we werent testing the limits of our horses.
A good hunter or jumper of any size doesnt just do it cause you told them to.. those of us that have ridden them usually have the battle scars to show that
it does take a horse that loves it, and to do it for a while that can use it self correctly it isnt as easy as pointing and saying jump so you have that part down for sure
But that said.. one of the most important things nd one that hasnt been mentioned here is the footing you are jumping on... jumping on hard ground is just as hard on there legs over a 1 ft fence as nice deep footing with a 2 1/2 ft fence IMO.
Jumping your horse high once in a while is fine.. if he is conditioned and used to jumping consistently over smaller fences (and not daily) the poles are an issue as what a bump to a big horse can break a leg on a little one .
Have fun with him and sounds like you have a horse with lots of potential just be careful with it since he wants to work his heart out for you.
If not.. sure would get pretty boring.. there would be no grand prix classes as they would be no different then the schooling show jumps doing 2 -3 ft fences. Would be no different levels in dressage or endurance if we werent testing the limits of our horses.
A good hunter or jumper of any size doesnt just do it cause you told them to.. those of us that have ridden them usually have the battle scars to show that
But that said.. one of the most important things nd one that hasnt been mentioned here is the footing you are jumping on... jumping on hard ground is just as hard on there legs over a 1 ft fence as nice deep footing with a 2 1/2 ft fence IMO.
Jumping your horse high once in a while is fine.. if he is conditioned and used to jumping consistently over smaller fences (and not daily) the poles are an issue as what a bump to a big horse can break a leg on a little one .
Have fun with him and sounds like you have a horse with lots of potential just be careful with it since he wants to work his heart out for you.
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Well l'm going to get flamed for this but we've shown and jumped mares 3/4 months in foal and did very well and they went on to have healthy foals the following spring. We have one 6 year old this coming summer who will be in foal while jumping. Some of our jumpers are now getting into their teen years and have no leg problems are still healthy and happy don't jump anymore but do drive on a regular basis. We would never train a horse to jump we only pick out the ones who do it anyway and you can see from a young age if they are one of them... if the class is there and the horse is able and shows heart why not it's only a few jumps a year at a few shows for ours anyway not a daily/weekly thing.
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Well as amazing as that is i would never make one of my mini's do that. Joey is 40' and i wouldnt even make him do that. The most they ever jump is 24, 25inches. I'm sure that is amazing ...i would never risk it. I just dont like to take chances anymore ....but do as you wish. The only reason i wouldnt do it was because we do it for fun, not to impress.
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midnight star stables
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LoveCoco said:Well as amazing as that is i would never make one of my mini's do that. Joey is 40' and i wouldnt even make him do that. The most they ever jump is 24, 25inches. I'm sure that is amazing ...i would never risk it. I just dont like to take chances anymore ....but do as you wish. The only reason i wouldnt do it was because we do it for fun, not to impress.
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She WAS NOT trying to /impress/ any one, nor do I think She /makes/ Roy do that! Midnight LOVES to jump! Midnight can jump about 3ft(I'm assuming) easly, by himself or on a lead rope, or on a lunge line. I know he can go higher.. BUT that being said, I wouldn't push him & because of his age, gosh he jumps that hight maybe twice a year.. but the fact is he loves it & there was no /making/ him do it & he has 3 firsts in Jumper & 2 firsts in Hunter... I'll I did was guild him to the next jump. Some horses don't like jumping at all, and won't jump very high at all, but some have soo much heart
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midnight star stables
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This is not a post of my horse, I was using him as my example to back up my point. And YES Midnight willingly jumps 2-3ft in his field - we have a pipe-thing that comes out of the wall of our barn & it is about 2ft 11. He and billy often gallop around their field, and Midnight will always run to the pipe to jump it - Billy on the other hand, runs the other way! lol This pile is rubbery-plastic like.. so even if he fell on(winter or summer) it would bend with him, not break, or snap or dent or hurt him. I watch them from my house.
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For the record I have owned many a horse that would free jump in the arena both big and minis.
Jumping is part of a horses job and really is not harder then (just in a different way) other jobs horses do.
Funny some people (as a general statment not meaning people on this thread) will say i wont jump a horse tall no matter what but yet they dont think twice about letting a horse sit for weeks or months at a time then driving it down the street trotting for a mile or so on pavement
Jumping is part of a horses job and really is not harder then (just in a different way) other jobs horses do.
Funny some people (as a general statment not meaning people on this thread) will say i wont jump a horse tall no matter what but yet they dont think twice about letting a horse sit for weeks or months at a time then driving it down the street trotting for a mile or so on pavement
Leeana
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Sorry, i misread. Free Jumping (turned loose) is different then i though. Sorry i though that you ment you wree starting them out with 4'.
If the horse just went and did all this by himself, you have a horse passionate about jumping. joey loves to jump ...i just dont think he has the passion to go jump 4' though.
You have quit the little fire cracker there then.
Leeana
If the horse just went and did all this by himself, you have a horse passionate about jumping. joey loves to jump ...i just dont think he has the passion to go jump 4' though.
You have quit the little fire cracker there then.
Leeana
Black Magic
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Maybe I should add that hubby built the jumps himself, in such a way, if a breeze hits the cross bars, they're coming down. Our mare has been jumped by someone that jumps at shows and such. She was trained by someone that used to judge QH shows, so I am just trying to keep up the work that was started with her. Our mimi... is as others ... passionate about showing off, and jumping and acting goofy at times.
I still giggle when I remember our neighbors dogs were barking at a fence near the horses. Magic charged at the fence like a freight train at full bore, and did a turn that a barrel racing horse would have been proud of. He enjoyed doing this so much that he did it almost daily. One day, he ran at the fence, turned so tight and so low, he fell over on his side. Furious, he stomped over to the far fence and tried the run again... like a bull... as he went to cut the turn, again, he fell over sideways and rolled in the dirt. He was so embarrassed, he stomped off in the barn, and wouldn't come out for the rest of the day. I swear the dogs were laughing. I didn't realize until I was telling hubby what happened, that when the sand in that well worn area is dry, he just can't make that turn, that he can on wet sand, hence the reason he fell over. Fortunately, he quit that behavior before he hurt himself. I certainly wasn't going to go chase after him, everytime the dogs were out running the neighbors fence line.
Horses are like people in that each one is different. We have one mini that is a nervous wreck, just getting onto the loading ramp of the trailer... just can just tell how worried the guy is, that the 1/2 in step is just too high for him, yet his half brother leaps up that ramp like it the best thing since peanut butter.
Congrats on having a fun loving mini!
God Bless,
Lynn W
I still giggle when I remember our neighbors dogs were barking at a fence near the horses. Magic charged at the fence like a freight train at full bore, and did a turn that a barrel racing horse would have been proud of. He enjoyed doing this so much that he did it almost daily. One day, he ran at the fence, turned so tight and so low, he fell over on his side. Furious, he stomped over to the far fence and tried the run again... like a bull... as he went to cut the turn, again, he fell over sideways and rolled in the dirt. He was so embarrassed, he stomped off in the barn, and wouldn't come out for the rest of the day. I swear the dogs were laughing. I didn't realize until I was telling hubby what happened, that when the sand in that well worn area is dry, he just can't make that turn, that he can on wet sand, hence the reason he fell over. Fortunately, he quit that behavior before he hurt himself. I certainly wasn't going to go chase after him, everytime the dogs were out running the neighbors fence line.
Horses are like people in that each one is different. We have one mini that is a nervous wreck, just getting onto the loading ramp of the trailer... just can just tell how worried the guy is, that the 1/2 in step is just too high for him, yet his half brother leaps up that ramp like it the best thing since peanut butter.
Congrats on having a fun loving mini!
God Bless,
Lynn W
