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It is very heartbreaking to see pictures of these horses. This should not happen to innocent animals. It has been impossible for me, all along, to understand how anyone who says they love something would allow this to happen. :no: :no: Mary
 
To all at CMHR, I am appalled that you even feel that you must defend yourself and your actions taken to help this herd of pathetic horses. I again applaud ALL who were involved, whether CMHR, SWER, the folks from KS who jumped in to help, etc....

I saw with my own eyes, photos from various people, including the news broadcast videos.
 
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I've been following this from the beginning, but have been quiet up until now. CMHR is not the bad guy! The time and effort that its members have put forth is amazing. You have demonstrated more patience than I have. You have also demonstrated trust and compassion to people that have completely taken advantage of your willingness to try to see the best in people.

And to Mr. T's new friends: I hope you all realize what you have signed up for. If it is your desire to finance, care, and enable poor animal husbandry, well, you're doing a great job, and it is your right to do so. I just hope you are in it for the long haul for the sake of the horses because the situation will not get better on its own.
 
:aktion033: :aktion033: :aktion033: :aktion033: Ginny!

First off I am sorry you had to post BUT in another way I am glad. I was getting so sick and tired of hearing from a few that came to this board from another and bashing and and... my blood was boiling but I couldn't do anything about it, even though I had seen these pictures before this but I sure as heck was tempted let me tell you, you taught me "patience" thank you.

I would like to know HOW in heaven's name can someone seeing these picture not equate them to "neglect" and it IS neglect, no matter what age you are.

I too cringe to see what will happen with those remaining. :no: :no: Those of you who don't "see" well then you are the same as Mr. T who said some were a "bit skinny"
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I've been following this from the beginning, but have been quiet up until now. CMHR is not the bad guy! The time and effort that its members have put forth is amazing. You have demonstrated more patience than I have. You have also demonstrated trust and compassion to people that have completely taken advantage of your willingness to try to see the best in people.
And to Mr. T's new friends: I hope you all realize what you have signed up for. If it is your desire to finance, care, and enable poor animal husbandry, well, you're doing a great job, and it is your right to do so. I just hope you are in it for the long haul for the sake of the horses because the situation will not get better on its own.
DITTO!!!

Robin
 
Oh my dear Lord those pictures hurt...let us keep uppermost in our minds and hearts the need that these and other horses will be bearing now and in the months to come. I read, "I wish I could help", from posters...and I know that helpless feeling wishing we had something to help with...you can help...very simply...just donate something to the auction...any little thing and all you have to do is send it off when it's done...just some postage and that money raised is helping all the minis in dire need.

Hope y'all don't mind my beating this drum. I am not a CMHR board member or a foster home or a rescue but I had to do something so help me help them please via this auction....send pics, a brief description and I will post that item on the CMHR auction. Your dollars spent already have helped so many and yet so many are left to help.

If Gini were here she'd be doing this but she's far away and is so frustrated..let's help the CMHR BOD and the minis. I can't imagine being one of the ones seeing this with their own eyes and hearts, the pain is incredible.

Deb Chapman aka dimimore [email protected]
 
I read, "I wish I could help", from posters...and I know that helpless feeling wishing we had something to help with...you can help...very simply...just donate something to the auction...any little thing and all you have to do is send it off when it's done...just some postage and that money raised is helping all the minis in dire need.

Deb Chapman aka dimimore [email protected]

I so agree, and have to add-- if you don't have anything to donate-- then BID on what is there!! I've bid on a number of items and am bidding on more. It's just a very small way to help, that and donations to CMHR means the WORLD to these little horses who have been rescued and need so much TLC.
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And Ginny, I salute you! :aktion033: You have volunteered for a heart-rending, many times thankless job, and it doesn't help when critics blast you and CMHR. I know much of the good that you and CMHR are doing, and continue to do, and the simple fact is that you saved the very lives of many, many horses. You are an angel, and I deeply appreciate your efforts. :aktion033: Thank you!
 
Thanks Magic I should've said that also but maybe money is short for some but a donation of an item and a bit of postage can usually be afforded by all. Thanks
 
As they say, don't go down to their level, bring them up to yours - in time the truth will prevail................. I hope the pictures are not removed... If someone is so adamant about the pictures being retouched, have a professional inspect them so you can stop saying that or better yet GO to the foster farms to SEE the horses for yourself. Those horses have not had time to gain that much weight yet......................... I believe that like minded people have much the same habits, attitudes, and lifestyles of those that they group with in situations like these..
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: .............. For those that are bashing the rescues & (helping Trimbly's horses personally, thank you also) & I hope CMHR will still be here to rescue the horses in need if everyone else bails out.
 
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How awful this post was necessary :no: :no:

How wonderful that organisations like CMHR are there for desperate animals who have no voice.

ANY humanbeing can look at any one of those horses and see the utter despair in their faces.........

It is deeply disturbing to me that anyone can explain away the reasons why this was "OK, because...."

I will keep my true feelings to myself..........wouldn't want to offend anyone
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One of the things I put in the letters I sent to the county commissioners was something to the effect that "if you feel that these photographs have in some way been altered please go see the condition these horses are in for yourself . It doesn't take an equine specialist to recognize a starving horse when you see one."

Also it just seems impossible to me that anyone who knows anything about horses would say we're just trying to get free horses. Good Lord, only a total imbicil would think that we're getting any kind of "bargain". Compared to the price of horses right now we could have bought 2 or 3 healthy ones for what it will cost to bring just one of these little ones back to health. I didn't want another horse....but I sure got one....just because I couldn't go see them and do nothing.

Ginny after being there and seeing it, all I can say is hold your head high. Ya just can't please all the people all the time....but you can save horses one at a time. Maybe all the people aren't thanking you....but you can bet, if they could talk, all those horses would be!!!
 
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I am not here to bash or offend any one just going to state the facts on Boo and suzie Q.When they came to me they were slow to walk,walking on their pasterns,could not,would not hold up their heads.Luckly they have winter coats as it is pretty cool here now, but are bone racks under the hair.Noises did not seem to affect them, they for the most part do not act like a horse should.I am appaled and heart broken that this had to happen to them but for some to justfy that it's Ok and bash the rescues need to see and feel what was removed from there.The 2 I have are sweethearts and will be great pets in time. They have a long haul ahead of them but between Judy and I they will run and be happy horses.Thank you CMHR and SWER for bringing them out of despair............Cathy
 
I am not here to bash or offend any one just going to state the facts on Boo and suzie Q.When they came to me they were slow to walk,walking on their pasterns,could not,would not hold up their heads.Luckly they have winter coats as it is pretty cool here now, but are bone racks under the hair.Noises did not seem to affect them, they for the most part do not act like a horse should.I am appaled and heart broken that this had to happen to them but for some to justfy that it's Ok and bash the rescues need to see and feel what was removed from there.The 2 I have are sweethearts and will be great pets in time. They have a long haul ahead of them but between Judy and I they will run and be happy horses.Thank you CMHR and SWER for bringing them out of despair............Cathy
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: I CAN'T WAIT FOR THOSE TWO JUST TO BE ABLE TO RUN IN A PASTURE SOME DAY...RIGHT CATHY :aktion033:
 
Ginny, I am so sorry to hear how you and CMHR are being unjustly accused of anything other than trying to do what's best for a bunch of starving, neglected horses. If I said I couldn't believe that's what was happening I would be lying. A friend of mine and I went through this same type of thing when we rescued horses three years ago. We were slandered, libeled, and personally threatened while trying to do what was right for some starving horses. It is so emotionally draining on top of the entire rescue situation itself, and to this day, I don't understand why people act like that. Do they think you'll come take their horses from them? And as for people thinking you're getting "free" horses, they obviously have NEVER done any type of rescue or rehabilitation. Anyone who has done so, knows how much money, time, effort, training, and love/sadness goes into rehabbing horses in as deplorable a condition as those from Mr. Trembly's farm.

Ginny, those people will only believe what they want to believe; there's no use trying to change their opinions. Though I do support your "going public" with the information to set the record straight, "those people" might not even believe it even if they felt and saw those horses in the flesh (or lack thereof).

My favorite quote is one I choose to live my life by:

"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter."

--Martin Luther King Jr.

These horses matter! Ginny and all those who chose not to be "silent" in this situation, THANK YOU!! It is so good to know I have many kindred spirits.
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You, CMHR, and SWER have, and will continue to have, my support 100%!
 
It's unbelievable to me, Ginny, that you and CMHR are being painted as the bad guys by anyone. I've always believed your version of things. Like Lisa, I know that the bad guys--be they animal abusers, child abusers, wife beaters, murderers or thieves--almost always like to portray themselves as the victim. I just can't get over how many people get sucked in by the sob stories given by these individuals.

We've been told by a number of people that visited the farm that if we haven't been there we shouldn't judge, that we should trust their word that things are in great shape. You know what? One of those people posted about the gelding with the infected penis...how they looked & saw no maggots, so we should believe that things weren't as bad as we'd been led to believe. Then we see the report from the foster mom, of how she was out in the barn until after 3 a.m. cleaning the maggots out of that horse's penis & sheath. Now who do you suppose I believe?

Someone suggested that the sheriff was within his rights to lie to people--that he was under no obligation to tell hundreds of callers the true facts. Sure, he wasn't obligated by law to give all of us callers all of the details of what was happening, but that doesn't give him the right to lie. Around here in a situation like this the sheriff's office would issue a statement that all callers would be given. Something to the effect of "The problem is being taken care of; the horses are now being looked after and we are monitoring their care". But for the sheriff to be declaring to most callers that there isn't a problem, and for him to say that he's supervising the care of the horses--and then Ginny arrives at the farm to find what she found--the authorities lost credibility in my eyes at that point.

For anyone that says the photos--which I do find absolutely HORRIBLE--are doctored, I would say that if you believe that, you should take them to a professional and have them analyzed. Guess what--it's entirely possible to have them analyzed to determine if they have or haven't be "doctored".

For those that say losing all his horses would kill Mr. Trembly. Guess what? I'm quite sure he would survive. Do you know how many times I've heard people say "If Grandpa loses his license, it will kill him!" "If my uncle can drive any more, he'll die" of "If Grandma has to go into the seniors home she's going to die" and so on and so on. Surprisingly enough, all of these people survived that traumatizing event that their children, grandchildren, nieces & nephews were all so sure would KILL them.

I'm entirely with Lisa--if anyone chooses to dislike me or boycott me because of my opinion on this case, that's perfectly okay. If you're a person who thinks there's nothing wrong with the horses in those photos just posted, I would never want you to have a horse of mine. If you think it's okay for an old or sick horse to look like that, I don't want anything to do with you. If a horse is so old or so sick that it cannot be in decent shape with extra care, special feed & a lot of TLC then it is time to let that horse go--help it to a peaceful end. Don't let it waste away and die.

You know, people really disgust me, & I don't just mean the ones that are starving and abusing their animals. My disgust extends to all the enablers that actually HELP the abusers.
 
It's unbelievable to me, Ginny, that you and CMHR are being painted as the bad guys by anyone. I've always believed your version of things. Like Lisa, I know that the bad guys--be they animal abusers, child abusers, wife beaters, murderers or thieves--almost always like to portray themselves as the victim. I just can't get over how many people get sucked in by the sob stories given by these individuals.

We've been told by a number of people that visited the farm that if we haven't been there we shouldn't judge, that we should trust their word that things are in great shape. You know what? One of those people posted about the gelding with the infected penis...how they looked & saw no maggots, so we should believe that things weren't as bad as we'd been led to believe. Then we see the report from the foster mom, of how she was out in the barn until after 3 a.m. cleaning the maggots out of that horse's penis & sheath. Now who do you suppose I believe?

Someone suggested that the sheriff was within his rights to lie to people--that he was under no obligation to tell hundreds of callers the true facts. Sure, he wasn't obligated by law to give all of us callers all of the details of what was happening, but that doesn't give him the right to lie. Around here in a situation like this the sheriff's office would issue a statement that all callers would be given. Something to the effect of "The problem is being taken care of; the horses are now being looked after and we are monitoring their care". But for the sheriff to be declaring to most callers that there isn't a problem, and for him to say that he's supervising the care of the horses--and then Ginny arrives at the farm to find what she found--the authorities lost credibility in my eyes at that point.

For anyone that says the photos--which I do find absolutely HORRIBLE--are doctored, I would say that if you believe that, you should take them to a professional and have them analyzed. Guess what--it's entirely possible to have them analyzed to determine if they have or haven't be "doctored".

For those that say losing all his horses would kill Mr. Trembly. Guess what? I'm quite sure he would survive. Do you know how many times I've heard people say "If Grandpa loses his license, it will kill him!" "If my uncle can drive any more, he'll die" of "If Grandma has to go into the seniors home she's going to die" and so on and so on. Surprisingly enough, all of these people survived that traumatizing event that their children, grandchildren, nieces & nephews were all so sure would KILL them.

I'm entirely with Lisa--if anyone chooses to dislike me or boycott me because of my opinion on this case, that's perfectly okay. If you're a person who thinks there's nothing wrong with the horses in those photos just posted, I would never want you to have a horse of mine. If you think it's okay for an old or sick horse to look like that, I don't want anything to do with you. If a horse is so old or so sick that it cannot be in decent shape with extra care, special feed & a lot of TLC then it is time to let that horse go--help it to a peaceful end. Don't let it waste away and die.

You know, people really disgust me, & I don't just mean the ones that are starving and abusing their animals. My disgust extends to all the enablers that actually HELP the abusers.

AMEN, AMEN, AMEN!!! You said it all :aktion033: :aktion033: :aktion033: :aktion033: :aktion033:

Yes, I for one would like to hear from those people that came here and said there was absolutely no problem at all....where are you????? Still hiding your head in the sand??????
 
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I would like to suggest, in order to stop this bashing going on in various locations, is to make a follow-up video of the ones that have been removed and are now safe, thank God, and show just what this entire rescue operation was all about.and post it on you tube as well. That should silence the "critics" as I said who don't have the guts to come back on here like they did on this forum and the Chance forum...
 
I haven't followed many posts on this

as my time on the forum has been short lately

but just wanted to add how sad for the horses

and to all the people trying to help :aktion033:

((((Hugs to Ginny )))) and CHMR, you are so appreciated for all the work

you do to better the lives of the horses you touch. It means alot to all of us.

So sorry :no: :no: there are people that don't understand your commitment

and what it is about.

Lori
 
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I'm entirely with Lisa--if anyone chooses to dislike me or boycott me because of my opinion on this case, that's perfectly okay. If you're a person who thinks there's nothing wrong with the horses in those photos just posted, I would never want you to have a horse of mine. If you think it's okay for an old or sick horse to look like that, I don't want anything to do with you. If a horse is so old or so sick that it cannot be in decent shape with extra care, special feed & a lot of TLC then it is time to let that horse go--help it to a peaceful end. Don't let it waste away and die.

You know, people really disgust me, & I don't just mean the ones that are starving and abusing their animals. My disgust extends to all the enablers that actually HELP the abusers.
I haven't posted on any of the threads on the T. horses until now.....and I sooooo agree with you !!!

Bless you , CMHR and all who have helped these horses.

Sue
 

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